that link goes to "page not found"

I'm referring to GP ADMIN saying they-not you- will post results.

I'm not necessarily claiming shenanigans, but you would think the company would be quick to show the results here and elsewhere to keep the morale strong among newcomers and veterans of the site.

Ah, well.....can't speak for the lack of communication from the company more the reasoning for not posting it on their site.

Not sure what it says page not found, I'll try again in another post.

heres a list of itech clients in c & g categories

CAA Entertainment Carousel Cashpoint Casino 770 Casino di Venezia
Casino Web Scripts Cassava Cayetano Technologies Chartwell Club Empire
Cogetech Competitive Games Concept Gaming Connective Games Corelogic
Cozy Games Creationsoft CTXM Cybertech
G
Galacoral Galewind Game Village Gamenet Gamepoint
Games 24X7 Games OS Gamescale Gaussian GC Solutions
Genii Technologies Ltd Genting Stanley Gioia GI Tech Global Internet
Gluck Limited Go Wild Gaming Gold Deluxe Goldencase GPN Lottery
Grid Logic GVC Services GVC Services Italia

unless "global internet" or "GPN lottery" is them, I dont see cubecia or vgw holdings lmd. and if it is why cant they just point- there it is -

Scroll down, VGW is there

yep, so is this case closed? or can they"load" the RNG as tipton did while rigging the lottery for millions, which would test out fine as the lotteries did but still were rigged.

just asking legitimately not trying to ruffle any feathers

NY TIMES snip-it
"Here’s how the Multi-State Lottery Association’s random-number generators were supposed to work: The computer takes a reading from a Geiger counter that measures radiation in the surrounding air, specifically the radioactive isotope Americium-241. The reading is expressed as a long number of code; that number gives the generator its true randomness. The random number is called the seed, and the seed is plugged into the algorithm, a pseudorandom number generator called the Mersenne Twister. At the end, the computer spits out the winning lottery numbers.

Tipton’s extra lines of code first checked to see if the coming lottery drawing fulfilled Tipton’s narrow circumstances. It had to be on a Wednesday or a Saturday evening, and one of three dates in a nonleap year: the 147th day of the year (May 27), the 327th day (Nov. 23) or the 363rd day (Dec. 29). Investigators noticed those dates generally fell around holidays — Memorial Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas — when Tipton was often on vacation. If those criteria were satisfied, the random-number generator was diverted to a different track. Instead, the algorithm would use a predetermined seed number that restricted the pool of potential winning numbers to a much smaller, predictable set of numbers."

The case is never closed with riggies. The truth is always out there!

granted GP has shown incompetency with their abilities so they probably couldn't load "seeds", but here's more on food for thought.

(from des moines register)
"Eddie also told investigators there was “zero chance” that Gaming Laboratories International, a New Jersey-based company hired by the Multi-State Lottery Association to test and certify games as random, would have discovered his two-line code for rigging the drawings.
Gaming Laboratories did not return requests for comment.
That code was replicated on as many as 17 state lottery systems as MUSL integrated the random-number software Tipton designed. For nearly a decade, it allowed Tipton to rig the drawings for games played on three dates each year: May 27, Nov. 23 and Dec. 29.

Tipton's software version is no longer used."

“There should be a lesson in this. Everybody just trusted a computer, a box. It’s ridiculous to think this was allowed to occur without more rigorous testing.”
— Dean Stowers, one of Tipton’s attorneys

Can they? I'm sure any site can. I'd guess it's just 'updating' some code kind of thing, although I have no real knowledge of how.

My train of thought has always been, why voluntarily allow regulators to inspect your business, provide audits/certifications, etc...if you were going to be shady? Just go the Full flush or Lock route, that makes more sense to me. Further, if you're going to try to rig to steal, why not just steal outright, like the other shady networks have done?

I guess as players we should be more concerned with collusion, bots and other nefarious activities by players than a rigging of the RNG.

The not allowing of HH's leads to doubt but it may be better than players somehow exploiting that.

Its too bad we have to choose between security and playability but it seems one cant have it both ways in this day & age.

I personally like the restrictive nature of GP's T.O.S. and in time(yrs) if RNG is askew it will show itself even without HH's

So i will continue playing hopefully giving more "BEATS" than receiving.

Very well said. GL!

I find it highly unlikely that Global will ever release HH and for one I hope they don't.

Why?

If Global made the HH aviliablee, they would also be anonymous. Assume they were an evil crooked corporation, why wouldn't Global just drop the hands that were rigged? If I was running a shady company that is EXACTLY what I would do. And how could you prove they actually gave you ALL of the hand histories?

So then we would be right back here, just having a different debate. But the genie would be out of the bottle. They can't start releasing HH and then stop.

People who want to believe in something don't go find evidence and make up their minds. Instead they cherry pick their facts to decide what is true. And be glad they do, because that is what gets fish to call with a gutshot because they know a 7 is coming, they can feel it.

They feel it just like many of the riggies on here "feel" the RNG is bad, and others "feel" it is fine.

So what can you do? Make wise investments. Don't risk more than you can afford to lose. And then go to sleep knowing even if things are not legit, you won't be put into a bad position. Do this with all of your investments, bitcoin, stocks, banks, jobs... everything.

I think that is the real issue, here and every other site. I know some people, firsthand, that collude on PS. They sit next to each other, in the US, and play only cash games. They are not the only ones to figure out how to do that.

I'm a winning player global, that being said if the riggies ever had a shot about being right it would be about this site.

Have they provided any kind of proof their RNG is legit?

scroll up

but yeah I am having a horrendous time on the felt also and it definitely wears on a player.

I am either having all my negative variance all at once or I am the most unlucky chap out there.

1-2 outers against me is like a coin flip

Think I'm going to take a break and clear my head

I am also up on site but I won't be at the rate I'm going.

I play exclusively SNGs on Global everyday and I check out my opponents on sharkscope. Most of them lose for the most part. I know they're not unlucky bc I play with them everyday. They make basic mistakes like overcalling shoves way too light. I am a beginner so I play there bc I know the field is the softest and it's the cheapest way to learn. I don't know about the RNG obviously, but I think there is so much action bc the players create it themselves by not folding enough either due to chasing a draw or not believing the other player has it and calling down. I play the micro stakes buy ins and I see the same players everyday making the same mistakes everyday.

Some other company that we're supposed to believe is legit says they "verify" their RNG.

Of course Global also said they were dumping Paypal because the players didn't want it, among other lies.

They also go to great lengths to refuse players stats that would be very very easy to provide them. (Gosh...why?)

I'm a winning player as well, but it's never felt right. Of course if we were allowed stats and histories we could at least roughly get an idea of how the cards come out over a couple million hands. But... Globlal refuses.

Doesnt' matter anyway because their player rep told me poker was just a "game of luck" anyway.

Who knew?

He was just trying to confuse you to stop you from peeling away all the efforts they go to to screw specifically you and other riggies in hands in buck sit and gos. The paypal thing, lack of HHs and everything else are all coordinated by a massive team of well paid experts who coordinate all of the doomswitches and beats in a way that is visually obvious (they do that to amuse themselves) yet impossible to document, including no insider ever speaking. However whenever you are screwed out of a dollar you can bet dozens of people behind the scene are giving each other a high five for a job well done. They probably keep a tally board of things as well for motivation in their office.

Continue with your efforts to uncover the hidden truth, including researching and dismissing any external companies who verify things, as they are all in it as well. Governments also are part of it. Only you and other riggies can help expose this to the world, so continue to play and the next time you are 2-outed - remember that is not just a byproduct of the game where that happens at times, rather it is part of a sinister web of lies and deceit that needs people like you ,with a gifted insight, need to leap to the foreground to tear this intricate criminal structure apart. Indeed, you are a true hero.

All the best.

Yeah.... gonna need to see the receipts on this statement.

While Global didn't handle the PayPal thing well, we can both agree on that, I don't recall them ever saying they were dumping it because players didn't want it. They said players wanted other options, which isn't even kind of the same thing.

This is the thing with you SoundPoker, you are always ready to push over the strawmen, but that's the thing... you are only pushing over strawmen.

Well, Global didn't say that the players didn't want PayPal anymore, but they did lie in their emails about the whole concept of a 'neww option'. The terminology alone is a lie. Global's marketing on the PayPal to WorldPay was a complete and boldface lie. There is literally zero chance that players, en mass, decided they wanted to go from o ernight payment to an ACH deposit. Based on the threads here, most players didn't even know wtf an ACH is. They lied, simple as that, hidden in some marketing brainfart that was delivered soft, wet, stinky.

Global has not gone to any length, let alone great lengths, in saying there would be no hand histories. They said 'nope'. That is actually as simple as it gets. As far as a customer service rep saying the game is just luck.....could anyone expect anything more from the same group of prokaryotes that cannot figure out how to request the proper wiring instructions?

Joey and Kimbr here are probably equally as pained having to consistently come back to the see unresolved problems. There is not a chance in hell that the same mensa members that are content with having a clueless customer service staff developed a 'rig' that borders on AI. The proof of incompetency is astounding, suggesting a more nefarious and credible think tank is utter comedy.

Part of his ***** is troll, part is frustration, and a smaller part is tinfoil hat. I know the guy a bit; he's part of our group. He is a good guy overall.

He's the hero this thread deserves. He is a not so silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Riggie Knight.

took a daybreak

on my return I was greeted with QQ's vs AA's 2 times in 10 mins (same tourny) guess which side I was on.

on another tournament I got AK vs AK of course his diamond played with 4 diamonds on board.

there were more but these stuck out the most

just venting I guess I need more time off.

If this is standard perhaps I'm not cut out for this hobby anymore

as I have stated b4 I have been playing since 2003 and in that time I have for sure taken some beats but this at a new level.

I know the QQ's vs AA's arent beats but within 10 mins cmon

I don't really want to riggie this but my CC has never had a issue with depositing and..... ok I'll stop.

Yeah he and I have conversed in the past and I would agree he is a good guy.

But he also likes to setup these strawman arguments and knock them over to support his points. The problem being of course, it then drowns his well thought out arguments in murky indecision for the reps who have to try to present his ideas.

To Sound, and everyone else. Don't do this with your ideas. Ever. Even if the other side is screwing up royally (and we can all agree Global has areas that need to improve) all it takes is one poorly laid out argument to be dismissed as the hater instead of the one who is trying to make things better. Reps don't make the decisions we want them to make, they don't have the power. They have bosses too and we need to make sure our arguments are well thought out so they can have the best chance with their bosses. And if the human (do you realize that Joey and Kim might be human beings?) on the other side of the keyboard sees your post and says, "I know this guy, he just makes invalid arguments, moving on to the next one"

So if you want to undermine your credibility in everything you do, make strawmen and push them over. Be the thread "hero" as Monteroy points out in not so subtle sarcastic jest. Act like Big bawlz used to, and Stay smacked does still... and then get no where with your ideas.

Or....

Remember that what you are trying to do here is persuade human beings... real life human beings, with children and parents, and siblings. They have emotions, they get frustrated too, they also don't think the company they work for is perfect. So the LAST thing they need is flawed arguments they can't use anyway.

That type of advice has been given to riggies for many, many years, but the reality is that is also asking them to change a large portion of their internal hard wiring, and that is not easy for humans to actually do, even if they know it is the proper thing for them to do.

A guy loses QQ to AA a couple times and it is much more comforting to believe it was sinister forces at work such as "rewarding bad players" (since that makes the riggie much more important in the scheme of things) than what it really is - standard, mundane poker. Add in some innate paranoia and you will find that some people need to believe that everything has more behind it than we are led to believe.

Thus, a 2 outer in a 5NL game is perhaps part of a massive conspiracy, even though the outcome (screw that person out of pocket change) makes no sense at all. For the most part a riggie cannot change its spots.

What was the action in the QQ vs AA hands? Raise, 3bet, 4bet and shove?

I mean, the PF action says a lot about the decision at hand. QQ is not the nuts PF.