Not sure what your question is in regards to, but with an assumption (Always dangerous I know) the cashouts do work pretty well once your documents are verified. Go checkout the cashout thread.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...hread-1663118/

I am still awaiting "data"

Not that it was ever coming, but it for sure won't now, Matt got banned

And if he really had data, he'd be creating a new account to post it.

To which I'll add, if he actually has some evidence for his accusation of one poster (for which he was banned), he's more than welcome to email me at the address in my profile, and if it's legit I'll lift his ban so he can post it.

Of course, I don't expect he has either.

If the RNG is "rigged" but still normally distributed among the players that still creates a problem. Creating more hands that lead to max rake will affect the games just by Global getting a larger cut.

I find it funny you're busting a riggie's balls for proof tho. Yes he is most likely a crazy person, but in his defense Global is the one not letting players have proper access to HHs. I don't believe it to be rigged, but could it be? Absolutely.

That is a good point, that while the RNG having issues won't affect players by giving an edge to one over the other, it could be setup to generate more rake. But then that is really the point I am trying to make all along.

The real question is not if the RNG works or is broken. The question is, do you trust Global?

If yes, then these questions are moot. If no, then don't play on Global. That is what it really comes down to in the end. And that is all the point I was ever trying to make. Which is why these things can never be solved, because it is impossible for someone who trusts them and someone who doesn't to ever see eye to eye.

Now could we prove there was something fishy going on with Global if we had downloadable hand histories? I guess that is possible. That really is beyond my scope of knowledge. But let's play a game called pretend, and I will pretend to be Global, or any other poker company for that matter, with evil intentions.

I get my RNG certified, the really random one. Once the inspection team shows up, its the one I show them. They give me my cert, I display it proudly. Once the inpection team leaves, I turn off the really random one, and put into the one that makes more rake for the house (Side note: I would do this with chopped pots. I get rake, players don't get more money, therefore leave it on the site. This is the thing I think we really should look for if we suspected a company of rake fraud, are there more chop pots. That would be the best way to do it.) After all the inspection team isn't going to come by unannounced, and when it comes time to re-up my cert, I put the good one back into place.

Now the player base suspects things aren't quite right, and eventually through battering and the calling of names, they break down my resistance and I allow them downloadable histories for hands. Of course, I make it where they can't get the old hands, only hands going forward from some point in time. I let them download like crazy people, and of course, I put the actually random number generator in place. If i time it well, maybe I do all of this when I re-up the cert. Two birds one stone.

Then once a suffient time has passed, and our friends that sometimes get banned "prove" it is rigged, and the friends who are actually intelligent, "prove" its not. I push an update that breaks HH downloads. And then turn back on my not-so-random-pot-spliting-RNG.

And I do this from now until... forever. Sure people complain they can't get their HH's anymore and we assure them our team is working on it. But folks, the fox is guarding the hen-house in my example, you ain't never gonna catch me.

So it really comes back to, do you trust Global?

I personally don'y think Global is up to any RNG shenanigans, and nor do I think they would do any of the above pretend scenario.

But everyone of us, regardless of what we are doing should be wise in our investments. Don't have any amount of life changing money invested with any poker site, that is my opinion. I have the exact amount I am comfortable with having on Global currently on Global. That number will likely look different for everyone. Be smart with what you do with your financial resources. That is what people should take away from all of this. If you are really freaking out about the RNG, is it possible you just have too much invested and perhaps you should back out of some of that? Not saying that is for sure the case, but I think some of the irrationality (not talking about you mdroz247) I see in these threads indicates people were in well over their heads. Its amazing what that can do to a normally sane person.

I just think its weird that I've played millions of hands on stars and never felt a certain way, then every site I've played on since black friday has left me wondering if it is rigged a little bit.

"rigged a little bit" itt

I realize that was hypothetical, but their intentions will always be business based. They will do whatever they can to make the most money while keeping the players playing. The last 3-5 years of US online poker will make a man jaded. Sites going under, winning players getting banned; the list seems endless. My relationship with ALL online poker sites is something to that of a relationship you would have with a used car salesman. At the end of the day they're offering you a product, but do you really trust any of the bull**** that comes out of their mouth? Just enough I suppose.

The part about keeping minimal amounts on is spot on.

excellent thoughts. 100% agree.

I'm sure you've seen a post like this a million times but here goes.
I joined Global Poker in late Aug of this year. No problem getting approved for cashing out. So I start playing, running my stack to twice the start and then cashing in all but my start $. No problem .But a week ago I cashed out a much larger amount and since then I've had no luck at all. In an hour session I might see 3 or 4 flops and most of them turn out to be bad beats. I'm beginning to think you get penalized for cashing out. Paranoid? Sour grapes?
And another thing, it seems to me the flop, turn and river all were displayed in the "Dealer" box but now just some kind of computer code.What up?

I am moving this from BQ to the Global Poker thread where you should receive advice on your issues.

Thanks

Where is that located?

Yep. GlobalPoker has a cabal of minimum wage employees all sitting there waiting to see how often people cash out. Whenever they spot somebody cashing out too often, they rewrite the code ON THE FLY to give that person more bad beats. They are immensely talented minimum wage workers.

This, by the way, is why I never cash out. Got em!

Here's what happened to me. I cashed out like a third of my Global roll. When I got my money there was a customer service email from Global asking what I thought about their service. I told them the service was awesome and I was super grateful for the quick turnaround and if anybody from Global was ever in Boston to look me up and and we'd totally chill out. Then what do I do? Well, I do what I always do, I hopped up on some tables and started grinding, and when I did I couldn't believe how hot I was running. Sets, boats, straights, it was unreal. I think the moral of the story it to always be gracious and kind to the people running the show.

I emailed them and told them I'd pay more rake if they stopped rigging the cards against me. I played a whole hour straight (thats like 100 hands dude) and barely won any pots. After that email I can't lose. Even played 2 whole hours since (thats like 200 hands) so I have a great sample. Moral of the story, pay more rake.

This is true, but when you just turn around and min deposit after your cashout you will again go on a sick heater. Every reg knows this trick.

First off, I've been playing poker (live and online) for over 10 years. Which may a lot to some, or not a lot to others. Point is, in 10 years, you've seen it all in poker.

Now onto Global Poker. I have been playing on here for over a month now and that is more than enough sample size to see that it is just not "real" poker. I've seen more four of a kinds in the last month than I've seen in 10 years of live casino poker and home games etc. Now I know exactly what you online backers say to this. "Well, in online poker you see more hands than live poker, so of course you'll see more big hands." My ass. It's the same garbage I've seen spewed out since the JokerStars and FullTilt days before Black Friday. It's not real. You can be naive and in denial as much as you want, but it's simply not real. I just finished a 6-max tournament and bubbled, of course. Because you'll often find me in the chat boxes complain about the site being rigged, and they obviously don't want that bad publicity.

Now back to the 6-max. 3 incredibly shady things happened. Number 1: The big stack has about 8000 chips and the 2 short stacks (me and another guy who I won't mention his name but I've seen someone complain about him on this forum and I think he works for the company) are hovering at around 500 chips each which is about 3 or 4 BBs at the time. I'm in the BB with k10, big stack is on button, and GP "employee" is to my right in small blind. Button limps, small blind folds, and I check. Flop is kqq. Now heads up 3 handed, K10 is nearly always good here and I literally have about 4BB to start the hand. BUT I know exactly how this site works. They want me to go broke here. I check and button checks behind. Perfect card for me on the turn is the 3rd queen. Now 99% of players go broke here. Full house, what are the odds your opponent holds a queen, etc. etc. But I cautiously check, even with only 4 BB. Button bets minimum and I just call. River blank and I check, he bets minimum again and I reluctantly call. What does he show? Q2 for the 4 of a kind and I am left with 2 or 3 big blinds while the other short stack has about the same.

Now onto Number 2 and this is where I believe COLLUSION has happened. A couple of hands later after I picked up a few more chips, the suspected GP employee is now in the BB with only 110 chips behind with 200 chips in the BB. I fold the button with about 500 chips and hope the big stack with 8,000 chips just simply min raises 110 more chips to force small blind all in and hopefully knock him out so we cash. But low and behold, the big stack folds for absolutely no reason. I don't care who you are in poker, you're playing 72 there. EVERY TIME. There's never a true reason why you're not going to just put an extra 100 chips out there to get a chance to knock a player out and cash. Worse case you lose and BB only gets an extra 100 chips. Best case you get it down to 2 handed and a cash. Blatant cheating. So how can you prove that these two players don't know each other and aren't at two different computers in two different places on the phone sharing hole cards etc.? It could be happening at any table at any time. The only way you can truly prevent collusion is by playing in a live real casino. Worst part about it is, it looks like there's not an option for hand history in tournaments so I can document this.

Now onto number 3 and this is the biggest joke of all. Very next hand, I am now in the BB with Q10clubs. Big stack simply calls (to knock me out) when he should be raising anyways which is suspicious because I only have like 4BBs and one is already in the pot. Small blind GP employee folds and I check back. Flop is KQQ. I check, big stack makes minimum bet I check raise for literally only 90 chips more. He calls and shows K3. He has a 8.59% chance at this point. But you know exactly what hits on the river. K for the higher full house. I understand bad beats happen. I've had hundreds or thousands in casinos. But they happen way too often on online poker and Global is the worst I've ever seen.

So now in the matter of just a few hands, there's been a miracle four of a kind vs full house, a miracle river 2 outer full house, and blatant collusion on the part of two players.

Now I love poker, and I love playing sit & go's but in my area, none of the local card rooms offer them. I don't have the time to sit there for 10 hours in a MTT at the casino. So I've been looking for a long time for a legitimate site to play online. I thought that I had found it simply because they actually process your payouts. I've played on sites that never paid me my money. So that was refreshing at first. But I cannot trust this site, I will not trust this site, and I will not recommend anyone who loves the game of poker play here. It's not real.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS SITE. This is not your typical "oh online poker is so rigged" rant. This is the truth and anyone who denies it simply just doesn't want to believe it because hey, U.S. players actually found a poker site that is "legal" and actually pays out.

Oh and lastly, yes this is my first post here. I've read forums on this site for years but today was the first time I was actually compelled to sign up for an account and share my story because I know I am not the only one who knows this site is a joke.

WOW! After all of this time somebody has finally proven that online poker is rigged, well done sir! Immediately withdrawing my entire bankroll and will warn others as well, maybe we should start a petition to have the site shut down!!! Somebody call Trump!

You are exactly one of the immature, naïve fools that I was expecting a response from. If you know anything about poker tell me two things.

1. Explain to me how that was not collusion

2. Explain how one can see more four of a kinds in one month than in ten years

Anyone with a lick of sense can see that while it may not be "rigged" persay, it is definitely not random in the true sense of you or I shuffling a deck of cards. It never will be.

There are many questions left unanswered here.. OP did, however, answer why he is losing at the game.

Please, continue being a sheep like the rest of 'em.

The Terms and Conditions clearly state that any withdrawal during the "25 Days Of Christmas" promotion will cause the good luck enhancer setting for said account to be disabled. The reason for this change in setting is simple. Withdrawal is a violation of the "spirit" of Christmas, i.e. giving, you selfish bastard.

1) You haven't proven a thing other than share a suspicion

2) I had quads 6 times in a week on a much larger online site and that means as much as your suspicion

3) The reps here are not going to ban your favorite player no matter how many times you come back and post new threads.

4) Most people curious about this site, or any site, that comes to this forum will look at the thousands of posts from people that have had good experiences vs the handful of those that complain.

5) When are you going to post the video proof you have of your favorite player cheating?

Curious to see how long you last this time, Matt. Have a great day on the felt!

My opinion that you see so many 4 of a kinds is because the vast majority of these players are from Facebook and are mostly recreational players so you get so many players that will play any two cards no matter what bet you make so you see way more flops when in most cases on other sites you have players that have a little more skill and would generally fold preflop with crap cards. With proper BRM you'll get used to those terrible beats and shrug them off while still being profitable. I too have had just as many bad beats as you if not more 6-12 tabling every day, but continue to be a winning player.