Kewl.

I totally agree that recreational players don't give a hoot about HUD's. But many serious players do care about HUD's, and the GP business model is to make it harder for strong players to exploit the fish.

About 99% of riggies don't use HUD's, and probably at least 90% of riggies couldn't figure out how to install and use a HUD even if their lives depended on it.

What's happening in PP fast-fold games?

I agree. That's why threads like this are basically just for giggles and grins. Any serious concern would find its way into a thread dedicated to whatever the particular concern was.

I've seen more "questionable" stuff on Global than any other site I've played on. But I suspect that might be because it is also by far the fishiest site that I've ever played on.

One thing almost all riggies have in common, is that they want someone else to do all the work. The good news is, a now banned player actually showed all his stats from playing on Global, and nothing looked amiss.

Open question for the Riggieverse:

How come sites that allow HUD's and that also provide HH's have about as many riggies as sites that do not allow HUD's and do not provide HH's?

This is actually a very interesting story and I'm surprised/concerned that it isn't getting more attention. Some regs on party which large samples in fast-fold games noticed they were being placed in the cutoff way less often (in a statistically significant way) than the other positions. This costs them money because they end up paying more in blinds.

Many winning players have shown their databases and found similar results. A more cynical point of view here is that Party is intentionally trying to generate more rake by giving recreational players a small advantage (because they're the ones who are getting dealt more hands in the CO). A more charitable point of view is that this is simply a bug in their fast fold software. Either way, Party has admitted to the bug in private but has not done anything to fix it yet.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...games-1789090/

Thanks for the info.

Guess they were paranoid Riggies on Party Poker too. Maybe they should ban people from compiling a hand history and lagtight can come to their defense once there is no evidence….

The only thing I'm "defending" is that a poker site can opt to allow HUD's and HH's if they choose to, or they can not allow those things if they so choose.

If the absence of HH's is a deal-breaker, then don't play on a site that doesn't provide HH's.

I agree that HH's make it possible to detect anomalies. It's also a FACT that the existence (or lack thereof) of HH's has almost literally zero effect on riggie claims. That's because HH's are only useful if one is willing to use the data therein to do a proper analysis, which 99% of riggies are either incapable or unwilling to do.

Let's do a talkback here, if we may: What do you believe my position is with respect to the legitimacy of GP?

The first paragraph above is a red herring.

Reading between the lines I'd say you don't trust any online operator and have chosen to try to play and have fun anyway. If I'm right, then you've made your point but have avoided many of others people's specific claims (that are worthy of serious responses) with logical fallacies and a bit of condescension.

In my opinion, my point would only be a red herring if I was using the point to argue against a site being rigged. Ironically, the red herring is that riggies often cry "Give us hand histories!", even though the typical riggie would still cry and whine about the site being rigged even if HH's were provided. Sometime back a riggie argued (in another Forum) that HH's wouldn't prove anything anyway, because the HH's themselves could be fraudulant.

That's a fair summary of my position. I've been playing on Global for several years, and it is probably the only site that I have made a net profit playing on.

Any meaningful specific argument against the legitimacy of GP will find it's own thread and will be taken seriously.

Threebanger:

Here is a typical "quality" post from a typical riggie. Hence, my snarkiness in threads like these.

Another one of my personal "favorite" posts in this thread:

how quickly does the site classify a player as a fish? are there different tiers? do u think it would be easy to program these advantages into a poker site? do u think a poker site that took years to create synced breaks could do it?

Just another thing that makes me question everything you're saying, do you know how significant +20% equity would be?

I've already dismissed him as a crazy person. I'm just wondering why the Global Poker admins continue to let this guy slander them.

Anyone with +20% equity across the board wouldn't be net depositor.

all sounds very easy, i think you just type all that into notepad then copy paste it into the source tab

There will always be riggies, no matter what you do. If you absolutely refuse to consider that you might suck at poker and you are losing, the only possibility in your mind, is the game is rigged against you.

I would almost guarantee there is something off with globals rng. I have had other winning players on there tell me they know it’s not right as well. I hit two royal flushes on global today alone. The amount of crazy run outs on there is something I never seen before. The problem is even if it was rigged in someway there is absolutely no way to prove it. So if you feel you’re being cheated you just have to get off

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This!!!

Thank you for yet another "quality" post.

You "just using random numbers" makes sense, given that almost all of your posts use random words that produce random thoughts.

Perhaps you could start a blog on how to create "stream of consciousness" internet forum posts?

Meh. Why not. This space would be less interesting without threads like this one.

The devil is in the details my highly delusional friend. If you were the crusher you claim to be, you would realize saying 20% there as your random number is completely absurd. It's just one of the many details in your posts that make everyone who knows anything about poker chuckle.

I'm glad we keep threads like this, it's genuinely fascinating to me that grown adults believe that behind the anonymity of their computer screen, when nobody can 100% disprove their claims, that people have to believe them in spite of their posts being veryyy transparent as nonsense. Or they just get the dopamine release of getting to pretending to be an expert when they know nothing even as they're berated by the whole field, probably because every expert gets berated by the ignorant right?