Yes of course you can maintain your citizenship. Residency and citizenship are two different things though.

Yes, but if you travel for work still maintain residency. It's a royal pain in the ass. I've lived it. OP has had exchanges with CS and they've acknowledged it and said it waa okay. Then it seems they blocked anyway.

I mean it depends on the details. They could have considered him to still be a resident of both the US and his other home in the beginning, but if he played consistently for over a year with no activity in the US, then at that time they determined he is no longer resident of the US. Obviously just a scenerio but could be more to the story.

You used something to mask your location.

https://globalpoker.com/docs/gp-term...itions-3.0.pdf


3.3. It is a Player’s responsibility to ensure that their Participation is lawful in their jurisdiction. Any person who is knowingly in breach of clause 3, including any attempt to circumvent this restriction, for example, by using a VPN, proxy or similar service that masks or manipulates the identification of your real location, or by otherwise providing false or misleading information regarding your location or place of residence, or by Participating through a third party or on behalf of a third party located in a jurisdiction where it is unlawful to Participate, is in breach of these Terms and Conditions. You may be committing fraud and may be subject to criminal prosecution.

I think his point is “resident of” versus “citizen of”, and there may be an important difference legally to that. On a personal level I lived in Japan for 2 years at one point - and never lost my US citizenship, but was I considered a resident of Japan, the US, or both? I had addresses in both, bank accounts in both, but didn’t set foot on US soil for two years, so honesty I don’t know and never thought about it.

I have no dog in this fight but do think it is something to consider as OP tries to get his money back and future players seek to understand their options.

Those sites have higher stakes games and bigger prize pool MTT's. If you want soft games at mid-stakes and under global is as good as it gets in the world. The fact global only has NA players makes a huge diff in game quality.

Stars is not the stars of pre Black Friday days. Read some internet threads about them.

I don't think their has ever been a case of them actually stealing anyones money unless the player was a straight cheater or something. Even when they locked my account for a month and didnt tell me why, I felt pretty confident they wouldnt steal my cash. It might take a month like my case but I bet you get your money but might get your account banned. Of course if you did something more then you said in the thread then of course your money is at risk.

all i know is this guy was the sickest nit shortstacker of all time so he will not be missed, as far as him being scammed it seems verrrrry unlikely also. fkn euros

Same. Global locked my account for a month without explanation. Just open a new account. It’s not hard to beat Global at their own games.

I wouldnt do that. In the email I got at the end it said:

"You are no longer permitted to participate in our Games. Please do not attempt to return to our tables through other accounts or accounts of your friends as we will have no choice but to close any such accounts and seize any balances, regardless of the time taken to identify the true controller and the size of balances."

Not worth the risk of losing funds to play on global. Too bad as its an awesome site to play on.

yeah multi-accounting just seems dumb. i do think this guy will 'probably' end up getting his $8k but wont be able to play anymore (unless there is more he didnt say obv)

I would also be pissed. A representative from Global said directly in this forum that you are allowed to play on Global in any country in which you can access it as long as your account is verified and you have a US address. Zero mention of residency, time spent abroad, etc. Hope the situation gets resolved and their stance becomes more clear, because they have 100% conflicting information promoted in this very sub.

I’ve had no issues for 1.5 years. Set it up in someone you knows info and you’re good.

I hope David Lyons or someone can add some clarity to this. I am planning to spend the next 6 months in China with my wife's family, and am worried this might happen to me as well.

Note, I've traveled to China for a month at a time, twice in the past two years, and played on Global the entire time i was there, and never received any inquiry from Global. Interestingly, it was one of the few sites I was able to access with no VPN in China.

OP. Are you an American with an American passport...or you just have an American address? Wondering because I’ve heard stories of Russians and the like playing on Global and it would be stupid for them to accept any idiot who knows someone with an address in America and little other connection. But I’m sure that’s not you.

Yes and yes

Wait so you've never logged in while in the US? If that's true I would say their concerns are legitimate.

I've played on Global for 2+ years now, I've played abroad on several occasions for months at a time but mostly in the US and have had not problems, maybe because I was actually in the US for most of my playing and applied to cash out while I was in the US. If you've never played in the US nor have you ever applied to cash out while in the US I think that would be a major red flag.

Also have you verified your US address with another bank statement? You said that you sent a bank statement listing your foreign address but haven't mentioned that you submitted a bank statement (or some other verification in the last 60 days) with your US address. If the latter is true I think Global should allow you to play and cash out.

verified with US address from the start


You're right. But they are pure thieving scumbag criminal ***********. They closed my support ticket without a reply since the day after this happened. And no reply to 6 separate messages on LinkedIn, Facebook, and corporate site. Not to mention twoplustwo, of course.

I had my account suspended by global for this earlier this year. I didn't have any money seized (I had just processed a decent size cashout and it left me with below minimum withdrawal amount so I have a few bucks stuck on, but support was very clear that they weren't seizing my remaining funds), and they said I can appeal the suspension in 1 year's time and maybe (no guarantee) get it lifted provided I also resubmit proof that I'm permanently residing in the US.

I am a US citizen, a US resident tax-wise, have a US bank account, and have played from home in the past while visiting family, though the heavy majority of my Global play had been while residing overseas in Asia.

OP's tone aside, I was also lead to believe playing while abroad was ok so long as you have US id, bank acct, and proof of address die to a post by a global rep on this forum. I appealed with this reasoning and a security supervisor basically told me that this was meant for people on short-term vacations, not for Americans residing abroad on a longer-term basis.

I don't have particularly strong feelings about this one way or another, but I'm happy to provide text of my correspondence with global from earlier this year if necessary. It's definitely a thing that has affected me, and seemingly OP and others as well.

I certainly don't think this is grounds to seize his funds, however, and if Global is seizing funds on these grounds I think it's completely unacceptable and OPshould consider further action.

OP, you have various direct contact info for GP and their officers. Write qhomevwe is the rep here now and then on Facebook. Request that your situation be looked over, include all prior correspondence like I mentioned. Then let them know that you would be happy to post all the interactions you've had, showing the contact info.

Whether they work with you or not. It is truly classless to just ignore the player and steal money. Probably worthwhile for other players to know about this stuff so they are not at risk.

Yes, please share or PM

Ok... my sword is down.

What do you mean?

They apologized and made it right, plus a bonus.

Various obvious questions and concerns remain about how this thing was handled. I’m not hopeful about getting any clear answers.

After being previously banned by the security team from another network merely for asking specific questions, I’m not inclined to probe much further with these kinds of people.

At least it ended better than you initially thought.

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