I think an improvement on the site is ability to download hand history or be able to email the hand history after sessions are over. I like to review them with my own filters in PT4 and others. I am not saying I want a HUD, just want to have a hand history on my PT4.

I would really like to see a table cap implemented. I think that was a reason that games on bovada have stayed good for so long. I see people complaining in the chat suspecting everyone of being bots.

Also I know that people are VPNing from Eastern Europe onto GP for SSNL already. In honor of this VERY AMERICAN #MAGA holiday I will name names if GP wants to contact me and work on building their wall.

Maybe he is, but he did PM me to ask me to edit my post to say that he's stopped using the chat. There is zero percent chance I would've posted that if he hadn't.

Happy thanksgiving all.

Table cap at what what number of tables?

Yeah I can understand that but your post still reeked of sour grapes. It was also like a 2nd grader tattling to his teacher.

Happy thanksgiving all.

When I play a minimum of 3 tables on my laptop and line up each table as a window, the table becomes too small for me to see the chat.

Also, people are able to play on mobile, which doesn't allow chat.

Installing a table limit so that you can put the chat trolls (who assume that somebody who doesn't respond to them in chat, and is winning 1/2 a buyin at the table, is a bot) at ease, seems a bit silly to me.

I think 6 is a good number. That is what 888 does.

There's a million reasons why I think this is a good idea besides that one I said that's just a user reaction I've observed. There's also many reasons why 888, bovada, etc. cap the max number of cash tables.

I say this as someone who used to 20 table on WPN as well as stars after BF. Check the state of NL and PLO on WPN if you don't understand why I have this POV.

I can't even see the chat on my 30" monitor (or the dealer tab which I like to read if I've missed a large pot) without manually resizing my tables it's a software issue with having a browser based client I guess.

Ah, okay. When you said this:

I just read the part about people complaining in the chat, suspecting bots. As I wrote in my previous post (given the current structure of the tables), the only way that players will be able to see the alert in the chat ALL THE TIME is if the table cap is set at 2 tables. Which I think you and I both agree that would be ridiculous.


Fair, and obviously these arguments aren't centered around people having to defend them self in chat, so this is certainly a better discussion.

Admittedly, I would assume that the beast/rake race is a much stronger contributor to the state of the games on WPN. The structure of the promotion gives you a direct benefit of playing as many tables as possible...which results in the players playing much more nitty, as well as having a handful of regs at each table.

Personally, I think that the beast would be the reason, as opposed to the ability to mass multi-table.

While I would be okay with this...how many players on GP are currently playing more than 6 cash game tables at once? I can't imagine a ton...

If you're assuming I am making a ridiculous conclusion based on a ridiculous assumption ("let's cap the tables at two so everyone can always see the chat so they won't think they are playing with bots") maybe rethink your assumptions or what I am suggesting.

This is the direction most of the poker industry has moved.

Why couldn't you have a rake race (the beast) and a table cap? It's also possible the problem is multi-factorial and not just caused by one element...though I mostly blame bad games on stars and WPN on there not being a table cap heh.
Well if someone is playing every table that runs at a stake they make up a pretty large percent of the players even if it isn't that many people....

Yes, that was what I was assuming you meant when you said:

But seeing as that isn't what you meant, then we are on the same page regarding that lol



Yes that's certainly true. You could have a rake race (the beast) and a table cap. However, we were talking about the current state of WPN's cash games, and trying to determine the main cause for why they are how they are.

I definitely agree the problem is multi-factorial. Personally (without a whole lot of data to back it up other than my opinion), I blame the primary reason on people grinding to climb the leaderboard for the rake race. I suppose we will agree to disagree.

The current games on Global seem fine (in my opinion), and there is no table cap, and no rake race.

Very true - but as I said, I'm not sure how many players are mass multi-tabling.

Personally, I usually play 4-6 tables when I play. I normally only see the same person at half the tables that I am playing.

...not that that necessarily means that people aren't mass multitabling. Just my very un-scientific experiences

Bump

Iamgto was an idiot back when I was playing with him over the summer. Something needs to be done about these ignorant regs before they run the rec players off with their derogatory chat.

No matter how bad of a beat I take, I do my best not to berate recreational players.

That's noble, but unfortunately some of us aren't quite so emotionally stable.

I think Global should ship some Zanax to everybody that plays > x hrs/week, that should solve this issue!

But more to the point, I'm still unsure if tilted/abusive chat REALLY harms the game. Back in the day, I used to specialize in a less popular poker game on PokerStars with a smallish player pool, probably similar in size to Global's mid/high community. I was notoriously bad at tilt-chatting; got kinda infamous by doing so, and yet fishies LOVED to play with me, despite the fact that I was one of the biggest winners. They explicitly stated they liked playing with me. I think it's because I appeared less like some multi-tabling emotionless robot and more like a flesh-and-blood human playing a swingy gambling game. The biggest fish in the game (who has dropped AT LEAST 5m in this game over his life) and I had a great relationship; we basically became friends and we'd chat about how every other reg was a bumhunting clown

Oh and yeah, when you're playing a bunch of tables and not chatting, fish always think you're a bot. Just yesterday, these dudes were having a convo for seriously like 20 minutes about how I was a bot. One of them informed his table-mates that he had just REPORTED me. Just in two months I've seen at least 10 conversations about me being a bot. So, if you're on a lot of tables and winning, maybe consider entering in like one line of chat at some point, just to assuage the fears of these irrational fishies.

Edit: these guys must think bots need to hit the timebank button a bunch

Yeah I usually type "yes, beepbeepboop" in response to people asking if I'm a bot.

There's a difference between banter/actiony chat and just being a troll who is bad for the game. There's also a very wide spectrum of behavior.

It depends on the stake as well...I will 10-12 table nl200 and on all my tables there will be the same 3-4 guys and myself. When I max out my monitor space at nl100 there might be one person who's at all my tables and then a bunch of people playing 4-6 tables (but fewer multitablers for sure).

I'm not sure there IS a difference, though, except maybe for the totally unhinged "IM GONNA FIND YOU AND MURDER YOUR FAMILY" type chat. I said some pretty awful things in my day and I guarantee you my presence helped those games, not hurt them.

Like, most of these people play live poker, and some of them even play live poker at places like the Commerce Casino, where you can find dudes saying awful things TO YOUR FACE on a daily basis. I don't know; we're presumably all adults here.

I've been around poker for a decade, with about 98% of my volume being online, and I've not once seen any fish say they weren't as likely to play the next time around because people say mean things in chat. Not that they'd necessarily say that in public, but it seems worth mentioning.

I suspect this is a common request but I'll add my voice to the mix: can we get hand histories for MTTs and SNGs? I've been playing those a lot on GP b/c I love the no-late-reg feature, but even as a rec I like to review my play if I'm unsure how I played something. Is this possible? What's the official GP line on it?

PLO SNGs need updated.

1. Make it 1500 chips, same as NLHE.
2. Add $20, $50, $100 variations

Several players are requesting this!

Thank you.

Anybody know if these weekend 200 flops gold coin tourneys have good overlay? Cannot find anywhere that says number of rebuys and add ons.

Yeah maybe. Idk, I've stopped playing a few videogames because of how toxic the community is and I didn't want to be yelled at by trolls/play with idiots even if I think the game itself is fun.

Valve did a study on Dota2 (one of the most played videogames, has a tournament with the largest prize pool in esports with a $10mill+ gurantee) and found that by far, the biggest reason people would stop playing the game is toxicity.
I hate playing live poker in LA because of how insufferable everyone is lol. I mean it doesn't hurt my feelings when someone says something rude to me and I'm pretty sharp-tounged and I'll often respond with something 50x meaner but I can't be the only one who prefers not playing at the Commerce. It's just trashy.

I remember watching my friend play like 40/80 stud or something at Commerce in 2013 and there was an older guy at his table telling this 50 something blonde woman in really vivid detail how he was going to chop her up and dump her body in the desert lol. These people clearly knew each other and played a lot...maybe this woman could put up with it and there are some fish I will literally let say anything but that doesn't mean the guy should've been saying those things.

Just because we're all adults doesn't mean we should cut each other off in traffic, cuss constantly, spit on the ground, randomly say the n-word, etc.
Aren't you talking about very particular games and recs? Like you guys all knew each other and there was a dumper who didn't care...it may not have flown in other environments.

When a table goes to 3handed play and the button and one blind sits out, the player in the blinds that does not sit out puts the blind on the table and that money is gone forever unless the table doesn't break.

Please fix this, global tables have robbed me of quite a bit (I really don't understand how the global code is cool with taking money that isn't accounted for).

There are several variations of this, it can happen heads up too if the big blind sits out a little late, like before he posts, but after the small blind posts.

I could be missing something, but it appears I can't look at the hand histories for MTT's?

I also noticed sometimes I can't write notes about other players if they've folded.

One other thing that doesn't really matter but I noticed. When an MTT goes on break, the last hand just stays up as if it never completed.

The site is ok, better than some of the competition. But there seems to be a lot of little sloppy bugs that can build up to be pretty annoying.

Correct on the hand histories, they aren't available, just cash NL and PL. I don't think there has been any official word on if there is a plan to implement them either, but I would for sure like to see it myself.

The notes thing is also strange, or after they bust as well, which a lot of times is when a note is a good idea to take, you can't make a note on them. Especially if they leave the table. But I end up having to remember what I want to write until they become active again with cards.

The hand up at the end doesn't bother me that much, unless I lost it, then it is really annoying But it does seem like something that should be fixed.

Agreed on the bugs. My hope is they are a top priority, but some of them have been around for a while, and hopefully Global is getting the message they really do need to get these things fixed.

With all of that said, I think its overall an okay experience, and please do keep pointing these things out as you find them here and to Global support so they will make it a priority to fix them. The more they hear from us, the more likely they are to fix these things.

What does a table cap solve? The more tables someone is playing the less they are paying attention.

Whyyyy did you shorten the dealer chat? There isn't a quick replayer option already -the chat was useful to get me up to speed on a previous hand.

I thought something changed!

Presumably they removed it precisely because it was useful.

(I made good use of it but not surprised to see it go.)