I have no idea why in the world the IRS would care about transactions, let's call them poker hands, that take place on a website with a currency called $weeps Cash.

I used to play the play money on Stars poker, and the IRS never came looking for info about how many millions I had on there.

What the IRS WILL care about is the transactions where money comes into my PayPal account. But I have records of that, they are on PayPal.

So if Stars one day up and decides they would 1:1 trade their plat money for USD and deposit into my PayPal... then the IRS is going to want to know. But until that day comes, they are just some made up numbers on some website.

And before the comment comes in, "But my $weeps Cash is the money I put on the site." Incorrect sir. You bought Gold Coins. The $weeps Cash is a bonus. Just like if you bought play chips on Stars, they hold no USD value.

The difference I see is that if all of the hands were available for download, if you could find the hands you played, and knew which players were at your table, you could then work with the data and begin to put stats together. Would it be the dreaded (this word said tongue in cheek) real time HUDs people worry about? Nope. But it would begin to tell patterns.

Now all of that to say... and feel free to quote me later, I could see being able to screen scrape the active screen you are on with some clever software and make a real time hud. The data is decrypted somewhere on your computer when you see the table and the action that is happening. If it wasn't, you wouldn't be able to see it.

This means that somewhere in there, if you could find it, you could capture all of that info and make the real time HUD. No idea how much work this would take, but for sure it is possible.

So I think it gets back to what gluten free said above:

a.k.a. Hanlon's razor - Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

Why is everyone so afraid of HUD's by the way? It's very millennial.

I mean I'm fine without them, but fine with them too.

Hi niosocket,

Yes this will break the ToS

Thanks

Wouldn't twitch streaming be against your ToS as well?

good question, or how about even watching a twitch broadcast?

With the recent addition of rule 8, as somebody already mentioned it could be interpreted that using notepad, ms word or excel to manually input ones own results is against TOS. I'd imagine looking up players on sharkscope could also be viewed as a violation. Not sure about handwritten notes on napkins.

Other concern is:
1. How does Global detect people using illegal software?

Fair if you don’t want to delve into the secrets of identifying people.

2. Has anyone been caught using illegal software yet?

It’s going to turn out like other sites eventually where people are illegally using seat scripts or huds especially for the amount of money at play here. It’s unrealistic to think no 10/20 reg is going to use one.


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You guys are donks if your wondering why Global doesn't want to allow hands to be tracked etc. Who care if you look at your hand histories or not. Its full of fish. If you need to look at hand histories to beat fish god help you. Trust me its much safer to play with no hand histories then having hand histories and if you don't know why your a complete donk.

The reason these donks want a hand history just so global knows is cause they want to look at their win rate and nice graph while they push their glasses up to type on 2+2 how great of a player they are. They wanna show off. I get it. It is nice to look at a nice graph going up vs fish so we can tell everyone we are pros its nice ego booster but its not needed.

They just want something like shark scope for cash games so they can look at dat beautiful graph rising and some sort of roi. So if you can invent something like that I think it would make these cash game playas happy.

If other poker sites can catch people using illegal things so can global. Don't play with dat fiya unless u wanna get your @ss burned. I know people done this on poker sites keep pushing the legalities of what they can use on the site and their bank rolls got taken from them. Don't play with that fiya trust me on that one. You get to sit with fish all day stop the whining geez. This site is wonderful place to play compared to what I been dealing with over the years. I am just happy no russians.

Damn, no more napkins for me I guess. At least they allow to make notes on players. Not sure how it is rec friendly. Probably going to cancel it next.

Thing is other poker sites don’t catch people using illegal software, bots, seat scripters etc. Considering Global has difficulty even catching obvious dumpers in the sngs then I have no faith in them. This is a real concern.


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Another TOS update :

7. If a player is caught or suspected of having an active training site membership, their account will be closed immediately.

Seems reasonable. I would prefer the more industry accepted language though of :

If a player is caught or suspected of having an active training site membership, they will be shot at dawn by firing squad.

I am in favor of anything and everything that keeps drawing in people who appear to literally not understand how to play poker.

Yes, very much agree with this

solid points. I don't disagree

"I am in favor of anything and everything that keeps drawing in people who appear to literally not understand how to play poker."

no one is going to know if you some people are taking HH's for personal record keeping. it affects no one negatively. It can't really even be used to exploit specific players. It's just for personal knowledge of results and for this it is a big deal that they took it away from us. Seeing as I pay more rake that 99% of the pool, I feel like I should get some say.

One could make the argument that anything they do to accommodate grinders makes it less hospitable for recreational players. You're there because of the fish, they're not there because of you.

Sorry bra but im in the 99.8% of rake paying population on this site and im going to have to use my say to +1 this change by global.

I'll tell you guys my secret on how to keep track of my money though. I look at my account balance to start the session and then look at it at the end to see how much it went up. As far as my bb100 its really good. I estimate its much higher then yours and 99.2% of the population.

your dumb no one gives a **** about your dumb ass bb100 loser and unless you grind 10/20 plo every day or are donk4lyfe, ghostclicker, stillers then I highly doubt you paid more rake. I had 100k rake paid tracked and I didnt have a couple months tracked too

Exactly, well said. I like to study my game but on GP, they make that impossible when they could make it very simple and keep their customers happy vs. keeping something from us that we have every right to. This scenario that Gluten stated would keep the underground HUD writing nerds from creating one.

Those of us around before Black Friday will remember a flood of posts like this directed at anyone asking questions about what was going on there. Any questions about financial issues, player deposits, card dealing... all met with "LOL DONK BRO DUDE YOU MUST SUCK!"

Of course we all know how that worked out. FTP followed almost ever other online poker site in history down the trail of defrauding their players.

Global refuses to allow real stat tracking and easy access to complete hand histories and card dealing at their tables. If you want to trust that they're just a bunch of great guys, so be it. I play there too. I would never play for high stakes given how they run their operation. But for fun at micros, sure.

But, maybe at some point people can learn from the past about attacking everyone who asks questions as some kind of a fish... and actually realize those questions serve YOUR best interest as well.

Right now, it's very simple. GP claims they deal without influencing cards... but refuse to allow full access to how their cards are dealt, even for the players themselves.

Nowhere else in the thinking universe outside of a gambling forum would anyone assume given that set of data that GP was absolutely not influencing their games.

But, we could prove this easily if GP wanted....

PLEASE LET US DOWNLOAD OUR HANDS TO POKERTRACKER PLEASE GLOBAL I AM BEGGING YOU I JUST WANT TO SEE MY HOURLY

Good thinking using all CAPS. That always helps to get things done.

GPAdmin...

How about just a truly searchable databse of our own player stats that can't be downloaded?
Allow us to search by parameters, search speciific days or situations... equity in spots, etc.

I can't think of any other online entity that won't allow you to truly search out your own documents/history. Games, finances, banks, anyplace I have an account.

Poker is a dying game compared to fantasy sports, gaming, etc. What % of young people are playing poker anymore? Will they be drawn in by a game where you can't even search your own stats properly at site you're paying to host your game?

Hiding stats and history from your own players is exactly the opposite of what players want these days. And please don't say "you can search hand histories." It's clunky, limited, can't be extracted and is essentially useless aside from recent hands played.

An added bonus of course... is that players will be able to look at the cards being dealt and be assured they are real, not following an algoritm that works against them. In an era of online fraud, why wouldn't you want your customers to feel maximum security?

I don't expect these questions to be answered, but they should be.... and the fact that the company won't do this, and won't address these obvious dichotomies should present major red flags for people.