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Old 01-13-2018, 03:53 AM   #101
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Re: global poker enhancement suite?

What stakes have you played in your last 100 hands? I have only played .02 / .04 6 max cash and it imports properly for me. I'll need some more details so that I can fix the bug for you!
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Old 01-13-2018, 05:49 AM   #102
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From what I understand GPES just downloads the hand history to your own database and lets you review your own hands, and it keeps everyone anonymous. How is this against what you just posted?
It is quite clearly keeping a database of private results to be used by the player. This is in contravention of point 4.

Anyway, if you find this ambiguous let me be clear. If you are caught using this you will be banned.

Hopefully that is clear enough.

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Old 01-13-2018, 06:01 AM   #103
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It looks like global poker enhancement suite actually doesn't keep a database of private results to be used by the player. You would need additional software in order to do that it seems.

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Old 01-13-2018, 07:24 AM   #104
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It is quite clearly keeping a database of private results to be used by the player. This is in contravention of point 4.

Anyway, if you find this ambiguous let me be clear. If you are caught using this you will be banned.

Hopefully that is clear enough.

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However, the hands being downloaded are not private results. They are hands available from the public Global Poker API. If merely downloading hands from the already available API is against the terms of service, perhaps that should be appended to be more explicit.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:31 AM   #105
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However, the hands being downloaded are not private results. They are hands available from the public Global Poker API. If merely downloading hands from the already available API is against the terms of service, perhaps that should be appended to be more explicit.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:33 AM   #106
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@Globalpoker. I have asked this question a few times throughout the history of this thread and it keeps being overlooked. Is there any plans in the future to sort the columns in your hand history? I would like to be able to click and sort by amount won or loss. Right now it sorts by time stamp only. I would really appreciate a reply
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Old 01-13-2018, 11:23 AM   #107
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I’m skeptical that Global will be able to enforce these software rules. I have a feeling that most 2p2ers will see this post and not try it or stop using it if they were. Everyone else will just unknowingly use it without reading the updated tos or without interpreting it to mean this isn’t allowed. If you have the capability to detect this is being used you should implement some type of pop up that warns players or better yet not even allow them to login when the chrome extension is active.

As traffic increases you’re just going to have more people developing software bc the demand is there. Do what Stroggoz said and compile a list of software that isn’t allowed and list it on your website.

After rereading this thread I’m still baffled by what the harm could be in allowing players to download hand histories and store them on their computer instead of global’s website. Why this of all things they want to put an end to? The only things I can think of are:

-the developer of the software made someone at global so angry with his behavior here that they want to harm his business by banning it.(one of the posts itt mentions he was banned from here)
-they don’t want players to be easily able to track rake payed and publicize it here
-this or similiar software enables the use of a hud that someone created

Also this post deserves recognition
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You all need to take off the tin-foil hats and relax on the browser extension. You should be FAR more worried about playing on a site that will not let you database hands and identify cheating, botting, multi-accounting, chipdumps, collusion, unfair or poorly written "rng" and the list goes on and on. Yes, many of those terms fall under the same umbrella, but things have happened under each name, countless times.

This has been a staple since I started playing in 2004. You get to keep your hand histories. I cannot even begin to count the amount of times these things have happened. Nate Silver became a John Wayne-like legend on the poker frontier because of the data we were able to collect. Unless I misremember, he even was a consultant to Stars one several fronts. No coincidence that this kept them the most honest of the 100's of platforms we've had since 2000.

Hand histories are a must. No excuse. In this industry sites and players are guilty until proven innocent. No HH's means no accountability.

Frankly, 2p2 needs to remove them from the site if basic functions like this are not in place to protect players.

Every site has had industry leading security and detection. They have all had a scandal at some point. I can assure you that there is corrupt play on Global right now, no matter how sure Global is that they are stopping it. And I bet it runs up the to 2k games.

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Old 01-13-2018, 12:40 PM   #108
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It is quite clearly keeping a database of private results to be used by the player. This is in contravention of point 4.

Anyway, if you find this ambiguous let me be clear. If you are caught using this you will be banned.

Hopefully that is clear enough.

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This is absolutely absurd. Why would you not want players to be able to have access to their own hand histories? The hand histories are anonymous so it's not like this leads to any advantage, it's just for tracking your own results. What are you trying to hide by not allowing hand histories?
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Old 01-13-2018, 02:19 PM   #109
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This is absolutely absurd. Why would you not want players to be able to have access to their own hand histories? The hand histories are anonymous so it's not like this leads to any advantage, it's just for tracking your own results. What are you trying to hide by not allowing hand histories?
Probably the same reason they don't have any history on their sngs. Really strange to offer them for cash and not sngs.
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Old 01-13-2018, 03:06 PM   #110
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It is quite clearly keeping a database of private results to be used by the player. This is in contravention of point 4.

Anyway, if you find this ambiguous let me be clear. If you are caught using this you will be banned.

Hopefully that is clear enough.

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That doesn't make any sense, at all. It isn't a central database. It keeps a database of hands that I have played, with other player's names being completely anonymous.

In fact, it uses your own API, which I have access to, through your client. If you don't want this to be an issue, either disable your API or allow us to download our own hand histories.
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:04 PM   #111
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sooo you can get banned at any point for using this? I didn't even know it was against TOS I thought it was ambiguous... Whats so bad about being about to download your own results and look at it? it should be offered for free by global frankly. I rake around 20k for them every month.
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:10 PM   #112
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Yeah, I have to agree with the other players here. For tax reporting and for proof of income it is key to be able to show how much you make, hourly, etc. Software makes this much easier. Global should allow you to download hand histories similar to the way Ignition does, this should in no way adversely affect the player pool.
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:18 AM   #113
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Yeah, I have to agree with the other players here. For tax reporting and for proof of income it is key to be able to show how much you make, hourly, etc. Software makes this much easier. Global should allow you to download hand histories similar to the way Ignition does, this should in no way adversely affect the player pool.
"Tax reporting", "Proof of income"? HaHa I nearly spit out my coffee!
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:31 AM   #114
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Re: global poker enhancement suite?

Global is a totally different poker model as you know, I'm sure. They want to cater to the recreational players not the regs, as you know, I'm sure. If you want enhancement suites, HUDs, low rake, hand histories, rake back, a points system or any other features we have been used to since 1999 then you have to play elsewhere. Simple as that. Global will profit and get along without you just fine, and most likely they prefer it that way. You will have your HUDs, hand histories, profit and get along without Global just fine, and most likely you prefer it that way. Thanks for playing!
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Old 01-14-2018, 02:23 PM   #115
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Global is a totally different poker model as you know, I'm sure. They want to cater to the recreational players not the regs, as you know, I'm sure. If you want enhancement suites, HUDs, low rake, hand histories, rake back, a points system or any other features we have been used to since 1999 then you have to play elsewhere. Simple as that. Global will profit and get along without you just fine, and most likely they prefer it that way. You will have your HUDs, hand histories, profit and get along without Global just fine, and most likely you prefer it that way. Thanks for playing!
I agree with not having HUDS, point systems, or rakeback. I just want to be able to look at my own hands on my computer without hunting through thousands of hands on their website. These are very separate issues. And if you do this full time it is really nice to have software to generate graphs, win rates, and hourly to send the bank... not sure why that is so funny.

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Old 01-14-2018, 02:42 PM   #116
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I agree with not having HUDS, point systems, or rakeback. I just want to be able to look at my own hands on my computer without hunting through thousands of hands on their website. These are very separate issues. And if you do this full time it is really nice to have software to generate graphs, win rates, and hourly to send the bank... not sure why that is so funny.
I am not saying anything is funny. Just saying Global is not geared towards the full time player, which you are.
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Old 01-14-2018, 03:38 PM   #117
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I am not saying anything is funny. Just saying Global is not geared towards the full time player, which you are.
It don't matter if you're full time or a rec. having easily accessible hand history's should be a must for any poker site. Keeping it short and sweet
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:05 PM   #118
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It don't matter if you're full time or a rec. having easily accessible hand history's should be a must for any poker site. Keeping it short and sweet
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:11 PM   #119
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Good response. Go back to defending rules that are worse for the consumer. Global loves you!
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:36 PM   #120
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Good response. Go back to defending rules that are worse for the consumer. Global loves you!
I am saying the average consumer, who Global caters to and who plays at Global doesn't care about hand histories. They just want to play poker. How much clearer can I be?
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:51 PM   #121
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I have no desire to look at my hand history. I might actually learn something!
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:24 PM   #122
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I am saying the average consumer, who Global caters to and who plays at Global doesn't care about hand histories. They just want to play poker. How much clearer can I be?
Are you sure about this?

What about knowing how they've done with certain hands?

What they've done at specific buy-ins?

Agree, there are some players who just want to splash around and lose a few bucks. No question. But, are there enough of them for GP to build a business model upon? I'm going to say no.

Every fantasy football site (good comparison) offers stats for their players, and the WORST and LEAST involved people in fantasy leagues take advantage of them. (To scan the wire, look at results against certain defenses, etc.)

You're positive that the average player would have NO interest in having access to basic stats that ALL other poker sites and ALL other competitive games offer online?

Because I'm not so sure.

To me, it looks like a pretty concerted effort on GP's part to keep folks away from stats and hand histories. And again, I just have to ask why?

I enjoy playing there. I'm a winning player at the micros and it's all in fun.
I'm not "anti-GP."

But, something is missing in the equation....

When something would be REALLY easy to do, and there is a demand for it... and an entity chooses not to do it. There's a reason. A benign reason? Sure. Maybe.
Maybe not.

How would we know?
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:38 PM   #123
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I am saying the average consumer, who Global caters to and who plays at Global doesn't care about hand histories. They just want to play poker. How much clearer can I be?
Worst comment of all time, PLENTY of recreational players are probably still happy to have their hand histories and look over hands. Just because someone doesn't play as their job doesn't mean poker doesn't interest them xD

That being said, it should be available to everyone simply to keep track for financial reasons at the least.

Also, when it comes to the games, this won't effect them. It's the use of HuDs/introduction of rake back that would kill them. It can still be very friendly/rec heavy even if people are able to keep track of their net loss/profit & stats.
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Old 01-16-2018, 02:40 AM   #124
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I am saying the average consumer, who Global caters to and who plays at Global doesn't care about hand histories. They just want to play poker. How much clearer can I be?
Are you sure about this? I would love to see a poll sent out to every global players email to see who wants easy accessible hand histories and who doesn't. I'm sure the yes would be much higher than no. Just because you're a red does not mean you don't want to go back and check older hands. One of my friends who is a rec texted me the other day asking how do you get hand histories on this site? I see a lot of players in sngs also asking how do you see hand histories.
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:15 AM   #125
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I agree plenty of recs want HHs. Ive had a couple fishy live friends ask me how to setup gpes and pt4/hem2 and they are just fish. It extends more to caring about security, and just about everyone wants that. Theres a ton of these fishy live players who dont like ignition(anonymous) and acr (bots) so they play on global poker because its the best option.

What if the next superuser situation happened on GP? It would be soooo difficult to ever get caught since no one can even review there hands. I know its unlikely but its happened plenty of times in the past even on pokerstars.
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