Sup y'all,

I, ISukAtParkour, and uwannatrouble have beef on the micro stakes Global streets.

I am a rec that squeezes our a small profit. I am no poker god, but I am better than him. Not that that's saying much, but y'know.

He'll say I'm a fake grinder and that I'm a nit because I don't dust off my stack all in pre with 44 after calling a limp. But hey, we all make mistakes. Which that was, uwannatrouble. That was an atrocious hand.

Here's two funny ones.

Hand 1: https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/61...8a340001ffa317
In this hand he is the BB

Hand 2: https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/61...8a340001ffa34b
He is BU, 44 in this hand. He actually went on to defend this hand in chat. lul.

Am I immature for this? Absolutely. Is uwannatrouble a clown? Absolutely.

Show your sharkscope dawg.

Deuces
Parkour

Ok... this is embarrassing.

I stand by uwannatrouble being an annoying dude, but this post was silly on my part. Mods, feel free to remove or lock.

I'd rather read a 5-page Elizabeth post

This is funny. I play both of you mostly in micro/low SNGs from time to time so I was hoping it was something from one of those. Alas, I don't see the trouble (haha) with either play too much, especially it's making you a few bucks. They always play pretty loose, bluff a fair amount, and like to gamble. Just make a note next time and save yourself this kind of L.

He asking mods to remove it cause I am going to tell the truth about him. There is no beef bruh I proved you are a fake poker player that wants to act like a real one. He comes on here to put down other players so he can fit in with grinders. He just was waiting for AA the entire time. I ran over him with bluffs cause hes a weak tight nit. He has no clue what to do without a premium or flopped big hand. I had 8 bucks on the table vs his 25 or whatever he had. And I told him within a few hrs I would have more money then him. And I had over 35 surpassing his total within 15m and he quickly left soon as I had him covered. He wont talk about what really happened. He saw the skill and quit.

He is a recreational player that actually plays poker for fun, but comes on here to try to act like hes a real player for some reason. And he plays like a scared nit. Soon as I am building big stacks on every table he was on he quit just like when I sat at 50nl with him. He always quits quickly and that is a fact. He definitely wont be posting any of my hands where I was stacking people over and over again using lines hes never seen at microstakes. This is no beef. He wants to create one but he hardly plays. This is the fact I am a real grinder and he is a recreational player that wants to talk like hes a real grinder. If you don't grind a lot your opinion don't matter bruh. Sitting for 30m and leaving to come on here to post 2 hands is weak sauce. You are a fake.

I dont play sngs. And I dont gamble.

If you don't understand what I was doing in both hands then it proves you are recreational player. The villain iso raising was over doing it entire session. I even told you that in chat. He raised called it off with TJs. It shows why I shoved. And I actually limped cause I knew he was going to raise and I wanted to shove over his iso steal. My stack was down to around 5 bucks just enough to get a fold if he iso raised to 1 dollar. I played that hand perfectly setting up a player that was over isoing pre flop. That way I get the blinds and your bad limp and also his 1 dollar iso. So I was maxing my ev expecting a raise from him and since it was my first limp behind shove I expected a fold most of the time. But he called with TJs.

Hand 2... It shows everyone here how bad you are. You min raised from sb which is funny. I am definitely calling in position to a small raise. I raised the flop cause you min raised pre flop. I didn't expect you to do that with a premium. Only someone really bad does that sizing with a premium hand out of position. I do have 7x I do have 3x. I do have pocket pairs 44-66. I could have a complete air ball but I don't do this play very often on that board. This is from you min raising pre flop. I thought you would have much weaker range. My raise was fine trying to get you off A high. It is EXACTLY what you had but I didn't expect AK. When you called my flop raise I was confused. I usually bet the turn to continue bluffing, but I was curious to see what hand you had. I hit the river K. You checked which is even worse cause if I do have any value hand under K I am checking. And since I check back the turn that means I probably have show down hand most of the time. You even had the nut blocker to the flush and you were afraid to value bet. I don't have many Kx here on the river. So I pot to make it look like I'm turning pair 3s into a bluff so you hero call with 55 or whatever show down hand you had.

So that is an explanation from someone that grinds non stop on the site of how I played my hands. I am surprised you are not embarrassed with how you played the AK. You sit 6 max waiting for AK+ its hard to play pots against you. I still bluffed you cause you are weak player. All this proves is you are not a cash game player the fact you posted both hands not understanding what I was doing.

Ohhh. Now I remember him. That is what he plays is sngs. He grinds cheap sngs. I played them a few times cause I was running deep in mtts on those days. And he was so bad that I remember him. He was playing terrible, but he kept talking like he was a good player in chat. He was getting mad cause I kept beating him in the games. I was running over him cause he played weak tight style. Ya this makes sense now. He is just sng player. I don't know why he is trying to act like he is a cash game player at 50nl. He is clearly not. He grinds 6 dollar 6 max and 9 max sngs. I was wondering why he kept asking me for my sharkscope when I am a cash game player. It made no sense to me. But I get it now haha.

https://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-S...ISukAtParkoiur he doesn't play anything over 10 dollars. Why he left fast from the cash games at 20nl and 50nl. He is probably having a panic attack with that amount on cash tables. He says hes never seen me above 10nl? His average stake for sngs is 3.81 haha and its over 2k games. isukatparkour you are a sng grinder with an average stake of 3.81. Why act like you are a cash game grinder at 50nl? He played a free roll on 12/30/21. He said he only plays for like an hour in cash at 50nl and only 5 hrs a week. My guy, it says you played for over 3 hours of sngs yesterday. You even play 1 dollar sngs bruh. Why aren't you playing the 50 dollar sngs? We got someone who doesn't play cash, plays free rolls and 1 dollar sngs for 3 hrs a day and says I am noobie-boobie that has never played above 10nl. This guys is a complete joke. And the fact he thinks he has beef with me when he plays free rolls. Bruh wtf?

His stats look pretty solid to me. Clearly a MTT player, and not cash games.

I'll keep it short since I didn't read that all.

This post is stupid. Our beef is stupid. That doesn't mean I think I'm wrong, it means that this is immature and it should end. Nobody else cares lol.

You are just gonna keep making baseless accusations about me being a nut-peddling nit and that's ok. I VPIP about 22 usually and I've been on a downswing so I've tightened up higher variance play and am probably VPIPing about 18. I'm still tossing in 4bets with TT though so for NL20 I don't think that makes me a nit.

I play Global as a rec (I have a real job lol). I squeeze out a *small* profit (made about 10k in 2020 between cash and MTTs with the majority coming from tourneys). I try to get better, I try to be polite to everyone I encounter, and I really do want Global to be a positive place.

I apologize for dragging this feud on, but I do not apologize for anything I said. I'm done replying or needling you in game chat. If you would like to meet face to face over Zoom or Skype to squash this, I'm down.

Good luck on the felt uwannatrouble.

Deuces
Parkour

FWIW the limp behind isn't a solver thing, but 25BB deep B open and shoving over a BB 3-bet is a thing

Interesting I haven't seen that.

My point was that 44 is ahead of such a minuscule part of villain's calling range (maybe A2s, A3s?) and flipping or behind the rest of it.

I think you would be astonished at what range BB is supposed to call off with for 25BB lol

lol, at least self aware enough to properly title the thread

No, that's my point. He has no fold equity and is only ahead of hands with a 2 or a 3 in them.

He is behind or flipping versus the vast majority of villain's range.

lmao

Let's not start confusing solver approved play with Global micro stakes play.

The bolded is something I hear low stakes players say a lot to justify skipping spots, usually with the addition of "I'll just wait for better spots." This only works if your opponents are really bad so you have a very high win rate. Against competent players where your win rate will be more reasonable, skipping +EV spots that are high variance is a sure fire way to give back what little win rate you have. Gluten free is certainly right, micro on Global is a game where you probably get away with it, but still.

He doesn't have no fold equity that's a wild assumption. Even looking at B open, BB 3-bet, B 4-bet shove, BB doesn't call with their entire 3-bet range. Presumably BB is raising a wider range over the limps then he is 3-betting so B has more fold equity in this situation. And BB should be calling it off with their best pairs, AK, and a decent amount of other suited hands. 44 is in fact flipping or behind everything in that range but still has 40%+ equity v that range, which is fine.

Again, Gluten free is right this is Global micro so assumptions on Villain's ranges can be hard to nail down, but "my opponents are bad so the fundamentally sound strategy doesn't apply at all," is a slippery slope to playing how you feel comfortable and justifying it after the fact. The other thing is the idea that a fundamentally sound strategy (GTO) doesn't work against bad players in the micros is complete nonsense. You can make more by getting out of line an maximally exploiting opponents' mistakes, but even a simple GTO bot would print in the Global micros.

LOL this is hilarious. Beef even exist at the micros!! I love Global Poker.

I don't think this is a +EV line, but I'd be open to looking through it. You're right that he does not literally have 0 fold equity, but he doesn't have much with two players behind and each only need to put in 20 more bb after putting in 5. I don't think people should avoid high variance +EV lines, but I don't think this is one of those cases.

I never said that GTO strategy is bad, in fact, I think it is quite solid. But, it is definitely not necessary to play NL20. I never said GTO doesn't work.

I haven't broken down the combos, but 44 is crushing 22, 33, 2x, 3x, 4x here of which there are not many combos. Overpairs account for 60 combos and over-cards some other amount (I didn't do the math). All of these are flips except for the 60 overpairs that have him crushed.

Is it potentially +EV? Maybe, but I don't think this is nearly as obvious as you are making it out to be. We'd actually have to count combos, assign villian some ranges here and try to figure it out. Maybe you could prove in the lab that this is a decent play.

I would just wonder why not raise/fold pre (also top off to play 100bb poker). What gets me is the weird overlimp then 3bet jam. It's NL20 not a 25k high roller. Villain was spewing here so I saw no reason to take a line with single digit EV expectancy (if even that which I'm not sure about).

I appreciate the analysis though! It is interesting and I'm not trying to argue, since I think you make good points, I'm just trying to add more to the convo (added since tone can be hard to get over the internet).

Appreciate your input, wasn't trying to be confrontational or anything. It's definitely not a shove at a full frequency, I just thought it was interesting because I haven't spent any time studying 25BB deep, gave me something to look up lol

where do you two get your confidence? if you're grinding 20 nl and/or a $3 abi you should be SLIGHTLY more humble.

Just in case any of this was spurned by my joke, I 100% concur with this statement.

To be clear, you can/will do much better exploiting where massive exploits exist, such as they do in abundance in the micros on Global... but a solid fundamentally sound strategy will always be profitable here as well.