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Old 11-24-2017, 03:30 PM   #1826
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Hmmmmm

Well, I did just assume, because that's the way SnGs have always run everywhere else I've ever played. Maybe I'm wrong! I just thought it was a glitch when the black screen told you your final place when multiple people bust at the same time.

I've played like 3k SnGs on here over the past 2 months, maybe I should figure out for sure!
Yeah it has happened to several people on here before and it often prompts a post (understandably). But I am pretty sure Global still does the if you both bust on the same hand the prize is split thing. It for sure makes a difference in a couple of key decisions and SnG strategy for sure.
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Old 11-25-2017, 02:39 AM   #1827
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Previous structure:

Nightly:
7 pm EST - $250 GTD, .11c buyin, ~240 players [play gold coin hands to qualify]
9 pm EST - $250 GTD, freeroll, ~90 players
930 pm est - $250 GTD, 11c buyin, ~175 players [play gold coin hands to qualify]
10pm EST - $250 GTD, 11c buyin, ~200 players [play gold coin hands to qualify]

Sunday:
$2k GTD freeroll

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Current Structure:
Nightly:
9 pm EST - $500 GTD, .11c buyin, ~600 players

Sunday:
$5 GTD - 11c buyin

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Global giving out slightly less in guarantees/freerolls each week ($9k before, $8.5k now).
The previous non-GC freerolls with their limited pools and large pay table at least provided a little bit of effective rakeback for cash players. It would be nice to see that replaced by something.

This is probably way better for the micros players and I don't want to take that from them, but it's frustrating that the effective rake for Sweeps Cash games went up because of it.
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Old 11-26-2017, 03:49 PM   #1828
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Yeah it has happened to several people on here before and it often prompts a post (understandably). But I am pretty sure Global still does the if you both bust on the same hand the prize is split thing. It for sure makes a difference in a couple of key decisions and SnG strategy for sure.
You guys were absolutely right.

Had been keeping an eye on it, confirmed just now when I lost money by tying for 3rd in a 9man when I had triple the chips of the other bustee

Obv it had to be the 100+10 when I learn this
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Old 11-26-2017, 05:02 PM   #1829
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You guys were absolutely right.

Had been keeping an eye on it, confirmed just now when I lost money by tying for 3rd in a 9man when I had triple the chips of the other bustee

Obv it had to be the 100+10 when I learn this
I had a hand in a 6max hyper yesterday where we were 4 handed i was 2nd in chips, I open shoved AA utg, got called by other 2 smaller stacks and also the bb who was the cl, of course AA didn't hold and 2nd got chopped among 3 players when the bb made a better hand than mine.. That's the 1st I've seen of that one lol.

Guess I'll need to add columns to my spreadsheet for incorrect chops, it's almost not even real poker if the game can't be run "correctly". It should at least be addressed in the site's TOS or game type info, mentioned somewhere idk where but. Unfortunately it seems to be the state of the industry nowadays, to force/trick customers into gambling more than they want to however operators can do it.

edit - 2 more thoughts 1... It might/should mess up the bots and operators the way it's set up in that it makes ICM and future play possibilities MUCH more complicated or impossible to solve so that maybe good? 2.. Players I have refer from my local cardroom to GP that aren't online players, aka the kind gp is shooting for, the particular ones i referred are gonna be quite pissed off the 1st time the weird chop happens to them and it'll probably cause them to stop playing after they either bust or bink and cashout. I expect it to leave a really bad taste in "social" players mouths. That weird chop isn't how it's done anywhere else live or online and looks shady, not good for trying to establish cred and legitimacy.

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Old 11-26-2017, 09:19 PM   #1830
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I had a hand in a 6max hyper yesterday where we were 4 handed i was 2nd in chips, I open shoved AA utg, got called by other 2 smaller stacks and also the bb who was the cl, of course AA didn't hold and 2nd got chopped among 3 players when the bb made a better hand than mine.. That's the 1st I've seen of that one lol.

Guess I'll need to add columns to my spreadsheet for incorrect chops, it's almost not even real poker if the game can't be run "correctly". It should at least be addressed in the site's TOS or game type info, mentioned somewhere idk where but. Unfortunately it seems to be the state of the industry nowadays, to force/trick customers into gambling more than they want to however operators can do it.

edit - 2 more thoughts 1... It might/should mess up the bots and operators the way it's set up in that it makes ICM and future play possibilities MUCH more complicated or impossible to solve so that maybe good? 2.. Players I have refer from my local cardroom to GP that aren't online players, aka the kind gp is shooting for, the particular ones i referred are gonna be quite pissed off the 1st time the weird chop happens to them and it'll probably cause them to stop playing after they either bust or bink and cashout. I expect it to leave a really bad taste in "social" players mouths. That weird chop isn't how it's done anywhere else live or online and looks shady, not good for trying to establish cred and legitimacy.
I am not sure that I agree that it looks shady, and messes with people's opinions on the site being legitimate, but I agree, it would seem there is a small chance this could happen to someone and they would stop playing.

Much more likely is it will happen, cause a thread to be posted on 2+2, everyone will point out it has been happening now for a while (although we woudln't mind the change) and cooler heads prevail and move on.

Or secret option 3. None of that really happens, they are miffed the first time and get over it.

Or secret option 4. They would have bubbled when they busted, but ended up splitting last place and rejoice in this particular way that Global does things and tell all their friends its the best site ever.

I could see any of these options happening really. But all of that to say, I do wish Global would change this "feature" but I don't know that they will. What I do is adjust how I play in those spots and hope they will change it.
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Old 11-26-2017, 09:20 PM   #1831
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You guys were absolutely right.

Had been keeping an eye on it, confirmed just now when I lost money by tying for 3rd in a 9man when I had triple the chips of the other bustee

Obv it had to be the 100+10 when I learn this
Tough time to see it for sure
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:25 AM   #1832
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I am not sure that I agree that it looks shady, and messes with people's opinions on the site being legitimate, but I agree, it would seem there is a small chance this could happen to someone and they would stop playing.

Much more likely is it will happen, cause a thread to be posted on 2+2, everyone will point out it has been happening now for a while (although we woudln't mind the change) and cooler heads prevail and move on.

Or secret option 3. None of that really happens, they are miffed the first time and get over it.

Or secret option 4. They would have bubbled when they busted, but ended up splitting last place and rejoice in this particular way that Global does things and tell all their friends its the best site ever.

I could see any of these options happening really. But all of that to say, I do wish Global would change this "feature" but I don't know that they will. What I do is adjust how I play in those spots and hope they will change it.
in all seriousness, please stop responding to or commenting on my posts man. I dont feel that you have enough/any experience in the industry to be so vocal about your OPINIONS. You are the main person
Rutlege smitty was takling about in the lower the rake thread about new accounts from new players thinking they're experienced and being massively tilting and just plain rude and disrespectful to those who actually do by acting how you do. You've not been around the industry long enough to have much more than opinions. You are extremely tilting to deal with. You do not need to share your OPINION in response to every single post made from anybody in this subforum. I was going to go back through your gibberish reply to my last post but whats the point, i feel like im debating with a high school kid or one of these new millennials or something I cant win, logic and reason no longer apply I guess. You just like to type I think. Your self appointed mod status and borderline hyperposting daily status here is really overwhelming in this subforum SPLAYAA, PLEASE stop commenting on my posts, if you continue to try to re write every post I make in a way u think is nicer for you or whoever I will battle you in these forums until GP makes u a mod or tells me to stop. You are personally hurting my bottom line and pocketbook by your thoughtless blabbering, I am asking you to stop it.

EDIT - you seem like a nice enough fella but you are seriously driving me nuts and I doubt myself and Smitty are the only ones.
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:31 AM   #1833
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You guys were absolutely right.

Had been keeping an eye on it, confirmed just now when I lost money by tying for 3rd in a 9man when I had triple the chips of the other bustee

Obv it had to be the 100+10 when I learn this
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I am not sure that I agree that it looks shady, and messes with people's opinions on the site being legitimate, but I agree, it would seem there is a small chance this could happen to someone and they would stop playing.

Much more likely is it will happen, cause a thread to be posted on 2+2, everyone will point out it has been happening now for a while (although we woudln't mind the change) and cooler heads prevail and move on.

Or secret option 3. None of that really happens, they are miffed the first time and get over it.

Or secret option 4. They would have bubbled when they busted, but ended up splitting last place and rejoice in this particular way that Global does things and tell all their friends its the best site ever.

I could see any of these options happening really. But all of that to say, I do wish Global would change this "feature" but I don't know that they will. What I do is adjust how I play in those spots and hope they will change it.
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Tough time to see it for sure
ya ok lol a 1st time depositor from local card room thinking GP is legit cuz of paypal and facebook who plays a 100+10 sng, gets 3rd and loses $ will rejoice? gtfo splaya which is it? This is an example of why I ask you to refrain from commenting on my stuff, you make yourself look foolish and again, Im struggling to find the logic or reasoning with any of your lines..

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Old 11-27-2017, 10:34 AM   #1834
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ya ok lol a 1st time depositor from local card room thinking GP is legit cuz of paypal and facebook who plays a 100+10 sng, gets 3rd and loses $ will rejoice? gtfo splaya which is it? This is an example of why I ask you to refrain from commenting on my stuff, you make yourself look foolish and again, Im struggling to find the logic or reasoning with any of your lines..
I would respond... but I am not allowed to anymore
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:26 PM   #1835
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in all seriousness, please stop responding to or commenting on my posts man. I dont feel that you have enough/any experience in the industry to be so vocal about your OPINIONS.
If it takes a 2004 account to point out that Splayaa's much more useful to this forum than you are, here you go.
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:54 PM   #1836
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If it takes a 2004 account to point out that Splayaa's much more useful to this forum than you are, here you go.
your opinion has been noted, thanks. It's not a contest of who is more useful I never said it was.

Also "useful" is a pretty relative term what kinda use are we talking here?
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Old 11-28-2017, 06:13 PM   #1837
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I’m nomediocre on the site and yesterday at approximately 10:05pm pst I was playing in a $30 buy in hyper and I believe there was a mispay. Even though we busted simultaneously I started the hand with more chips so technically the other party should’ve finished third. I think that’s a pretty standard practice across any poker site. I started the hand with 2.5x the amount of chips more than the third place finisher and as such I should get the full 2nd place prize instead of half.


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I just read the most recent posts and I see that other players have the same issues as me. Is global poker going to correct this as this policy seems very counterintuitive and silly.

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Old 11-28-2017, 10:37 PM   #1838
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If it takes a 2004 account to point out that Splayaa's much more useful to this forum than you are, here you go.
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Old 11-28-2017, 10:44 PM   #1839
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EDIT - you seem like a nice enough fella but you are seriously driving me nuts and I doubt myself and Smitty are the only ones.
Actually, I wouldn't be too surprised if you and Smitty WERE the only ones that Splayaa is driving nuts. I've seen MANY posters thanking Splayaa for helping them out with a problem they were having with Global. (BTW, I also think that you and Smitty have a lot of helpful posts, too.)
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Old 11-29-2017, 12:32 AM   #1840
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Just keep bumping the rake thread. I'm thinking since they still can't get button placement correct after 4 months that eventually they will lower their rake with issues as blatant as that.
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Old 11-29-2017, 08:57 AM   #1841
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I’m nomediocre on the site and yesterday at approximately 10:05pm pst I was playing in a $30 buy in hyper and I believe there was a mispay. Even though we busted simultaneously I started the hand with more chips so technically the other party should’ve finished third. I think that’s a pretty standard practice across any poker site. I started the hand with 2.5x the amount of chips more than the third place finisher and as such I should get the full 2nd place prize instead of half.


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I just read the most recent posts and I see that other players have the same issues as me. Is global poker going to correct this as this policy seems very counterintuitive and silly.
Nomediocre420, you are correct that this particular issue is a "feature" of Global. I call it a "feature" not because I think is good or bad, but it is for sure a decision that Global has made. Its been in the software now since February when I started playing here at least, and likely since the site started.

What I would encourage you to do (any anyone else that doesn't like this "feature") is to send an email to Global support expressing your concern. The more emails that are generated on the topic, the more Global will need to listen and address it.

And lastly I would encourage you, now that you know about this "feature", is understand what implications it can have on your play in the future.

With that said, I am in complete agreement, this "feature" is non-standard in the poker industry, at least in my experience, no where I have played, live or online, has done it this way.
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Nomediocre420, you are correct that this particular issue is a "feature" of Global. I call it a "feature" not because I think is good or bad, but it is for sure a decision that Global has made. Its been in the software now since February when I started playing here at least, and likely since the site started.

What I would encourage you to do (any anyone else that doesn't like this "feature") is to send an email to Global support expressing your concern. The more emails that are generated on the topic, the more Global will need to listen and address it.

And lastly I would encourage you, now that you know about this "feature", is understand what implications it can have on your play in the future.

With that said, I am in complete agreement, this "feature" is non-standard in the poker industry, at least in my experience, no where I have played, live or online, has done it this way.
Feature is the wrong word for this situation, a more accurate description would be "flaw". There is a reason its not done at any other live or online poker room in the world that anybody here knows of. Its not a "feature". IMO you are way too soft on GP in a lot of ways splaya. I think the community would be better off if you just stuck to cashier and cs type assistance as opposed to the more advanced poker concepts. Its not a damn "feature" lol omg. I guess the highest rake in the industry is also a "Feature" that gp "showcases" lmfao? Have you played poker anywhere else besides gp live or online since u started on GP months ago? You have a great attitude but damn dude. You calling it a "feature" makes it seem like you are ok with it and you seem to be, and you should not be, it is a problem that needs to be fixed.

You thgink its some new "feature" that gp came up with? There is a reason its not done anywhere else, if it was a good idea wsop live would try it and if it was bad and passable amayastars woulda done it. Its either a FLAW in their software or its some kinda sweeps legal regulation requirement and id like a rep to comment which it is, or to confirm that it is in fact some great new "Feature" we should be happy about.
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Splaya in response to your wild speculations and guesses the other day that some players might rejioce about this icm and payout flaw, where are they? Ive not seen a single post about anybody being happy about this? Sure ive managed to exploit it at times but im fairly sure this "feature" cost me a lot more that it helps.
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there is a reason they wont comment on the "feature" and its the same one about why they wont comment on what they did to the sng offerings and structures. These "features" and changes to benefit the site not the players. At least not the players who are trying to win and care either way if they do, i guess this doesnt apply the lagtight's of the world who seem to just be happy clicking buttons with a chance for a prize.

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Feature is the wrong word for this situation, a more accurate description would be "flaw". There is a reason its not done at any other live or online poker room in the world that anybody here knows of. Its not a "feature". IMO you are way too soft on GP in a lot of ways splaya. I think the community would be better off if you just stuck to cashier and cs type assistance as opposed to the more advanced poker concepts. Its not a damn "feature" lol omg. I guess the highest rake in the industry is also a "Feature" that gp "showcases" lmfao? Have you played poker anywhere else besides gp live or online since u started on GP months ago? You have a great attitude but damn dude. You calling it a "feature" makes it seem like you are ok with it and you seem to be, and you should not be, it is a problem that needs to be fixed.

You thgink its some new "feature" that gp came up with? There is a reason its not done anywhere else, if it was a good idea wsop live would try it and if it was bad and passable amayastars woulda done it. Its either a FLAW in their software or its some kinda sweeps legal regulation requirement and id like a rep to comment which it is, or to confirm that it is in fact some great new "Feature" we should be happy about.
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The "feature" probably helps fish like me a little, and helping the fishies a little seems to be the M.O. of GP. Which is probably why GP is so profitable for good players.

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The "feature" probably helps fish like me a little, and helping the fishies a little seems to be the M.O. of GP. Which is probably why GP is so profitable for good players.
That concept only works to a point, the amayastars situation is a perfect example of that. The games there aren't nearly as profitable anymore for even the worlds best players, not like they were before all the new "features" were implemented. The former "good" players have now been converted to break even or losing players due to the new features and only the best profit at all long term.
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I hope so, I just woke up and it went over my head if thats the case. If so my bad.

That concept only works to a point, the amayastars situation is a perfect example of that. The games there aren't nearly as profitable anymore for even the worlds best players, not like they were before all the new "features" were implemented. The former "good" players have now been converted to break even or losing players due to the new features and only the best profit at all long term.
I could explain myself, but I can't respond to your posts, per your request. I would not want to be out of place and correct such an amazing poker mind and logical thinker like yourself.

Although... it does seem a bit unfair to me that you can critique all of my posts, but I cannot do the same to yours. But it is what it is, and the 2+2 laws must stand.

Some may object and say forums are supposed to be about open conversation and the exchange of ideas, even ideas that we don't like or agree with. But those people are wrong. Big bwalz must be obeyed, so I cannot respond. He told me is a much more advanced thinker than I am and smarter than I am. And just me guessing, but he is probably better in bed. So I will just sit quietly in my corner.

As I cannot commit a criminal act and risk going to 2+2 jail by responding to such a reputable, upstanding, and superior 2+2 community member as the great big bwalz himself.
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Old 11-29-2017, 12:59 PM   #1849
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Any news on the start of the new tournament series?
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Any news on the start of the new tournament series?
They made a post about it (and now I can't remember where) that they are doing a new series in January.

Edit: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...le-cup-1694495 (found the post)
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