https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/64...f1b90001a34b89

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/64...0dad000177c6ca

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/64...f1b90001a34b8b

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/64...0dad000177c6cc

he's still doing it literally every hand..hello global

Technically, streaming or writing a HH on notepad would be a violation of this. They are poorly written TOS, and always have been.

You definitely can use third party tools to work with PT4/HM3. All you need to do is have it output it as a Pokerstars or ipoker HH and it will work fine. You won't get a HUD, but you will be able to figure out where players are weak, based on their stats.

OP do you have evidence of what you're claiming? because I just read the whole thread and I didn't see it anywhere
"(as of 4/24 he was still actively snap data mining 100% of hands)" based on what? so what if some kid says he's building an algorithm in chat. why are you so paranoid? He's playing $11 mtts

You folded J7s in the cutoff, that's all I needed to see..

classic

recording your sessions is against TOS?

yes
globalpoker.com/docs/card-room-rules-v5.3.pdf

1.6 h. "Any other program provided by a source other than Global Poker that is used to record or collate a player's hand data, individual or otherwise"

cool thanks

Update:

The player "Slickric42" is still actively using a 3rd party software saving HH as of 6/11/23- Go check out his Sharkscope, dude has been crushing recently.

Just wanted to give a big shoutout to the global security team!

You still haven’t provided any evidence of what you’re claiming other than screenshots of the player saying he was “working on building a software.”

I agree it’s concerning and I understand why you’re upset but you can’t conclude someone is cheating based off chat logs, even potentially self incriminating ones.

Getting someone banned, assuming that’s your goal, is a serious matter. And you may have significant financial incentive to get him banned, if you play the same games.

Not that Villains results are at all relevant to this discussion, but since you brought it up: 60% ROI at $20 MTTs is solid but totally unspectacular on such a soft site as Global.

Oh and I just wanted to add that I totally empathize with the frustration of not hearing back from security. I have a security issue myself and have emailed support and pm’d the GP rep on here and total crickets.

I have always wondered about the Twitch streamers, they are recording hands. I don't know much about Twitch, but have watched a few streams that weren't live and just found it interesting.

First and foremost I don't care if this guy gets banned, but I'd really appreciate for him to stop using a third party software to track his stats. Not sure exactly what he's up to, but it would be easy for him to collect pop data on top of analyzing his own play.

It's unfair to everyone at the table who is playing by the rules. The guy openly admitted to using this software for saving hands on twitch...I'm not sure how much more blatant it can be.

You can literally go to one of his tables now, click the hand histories, and see what I'm talking about. The software grabs the text file so fast that you can't open the link before his software has already snagged it.

Right now at this moment he's playing the afternoon brawl..you click on his table and open the hand histories ...

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/64...27190001d9604a

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/64...27190001d9604c

these are just the very first two hand I opened..it's constantly tracking while he continues to play.

in such a small pool of players it's frustrating that he's been getting away with this for so long. maybe I'm wrong and we are allowed to be doing this in which case I apologize

I would encourage you to click on one of his tables for yourself and maybe it would make more sense

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/64...27190001d9605a

I don't understand what you mean "text file." There is no text file HH that I can see, only a link to each hand after it's completed which contains a browser replay of the hand. If I right click on that link and click "inspect" I get HTML code for the browser replay display.

Yeah I also wonder about that. There's a thread on here where the Global Poker rep is encouraging Twitch streaming. They really need to clarify the 1.6 h clause I pasted. It's ok to take video of you playing on Global for recreational reasons (twitch streaming) but it becomes not ok as soon as you analyze a hand that was taken by video (whether Twitch, OBS, whatever)? Lol. The clause needs to be clarified to reflect whether their issue is with the use of software generally or the intended purpose of that use (appears to be the latter).

That was how slickric described it obviously I’m not sure exactly how the program works. I asked him on stream approx 2 months ago and suggested maybe it was against TOS.
Looking back I should have recorded a clip from the stream..he was very open to talking about it.

The bottom line was the text from that link gets saved somehow then he exports the data to PT4 for stat review

It’s pretty damn clever..my understanding is exporting hand histories to PT4 is against TOS

Another issue: The site should *not* be revealing a player's hole cards if they click to view the HH.

AngryInbred is certainly angry (not so sure about the other thing), but I think it's for a good reason in this situation.

Here's how the Global HHs appear to work: anytime you access the HH, you can see/replay the hand, and for whatever reason it shows you the hole cards of everyone who has viewed that specific HH. My guess is that it's just an easy shortcut to make sure that you can see your hand when you are looking at the HH and nobody on the software side of things really cares beyond that.

To check this, you can just click on any of the HHs that whatbox has posted. You'll see slickric's and Angry's hole cards, even if they folded pre. Because they've both clicked on the HH link in the past. You can also check it in real time if you'd like by just pulling up a table that he's at and clicking a HH link that gets put into chat as soon as a hand is played. His hand will likely be shown face up, meaning he's already clicked on the HH link.

Angry is saying that it's very suspicious, and I agree, that slicric42's hole cards are shown in EVERY hand he's ever played. And they are shown instantly, like as soon as the hand is over, his hole cards are displayed. This means that he's opening every single hand history on every single table he's playing within a millisecond of all of them being played. There's really no way of doing this without utilizing 3rd party tools, especially if he's streaming his play, you can just go and see that he's not instantly clicking on the HH link every single hand...yet he IS clicking on them, all of them.

So now he's got at best a database of every single hand he's played somewhere. But in reality, he has access to a lot of people' hole cards, because if anyone clicks to see a hand that was played, or wants to see river action, anything, boom, their hands are shown face up for anyone who wants to go back and open up the link again. And it's pretty clear that he's likely got all of these links saved somewhere.

Everyone who plays should email support to complain about this stuff. It's a legitimate concern. It doesn't seem like they're reading 2p2.

Thank you I understand now, my bad

thanks for clarifying this!

for all we know he's just reviewing his personal HUD stats, but i've got a feeling there's something else going on here.. if you had access to pop data why wouldn't you be taking advantage?

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/64...2cb50001f5541a

currently in the $55 huntress 6/15/23

it's like bro why would you be reviewing this hand?? lol

my real concern here is that global struggles to catch people that are blatantly cheating. you really have to wonder what the smart people are getting away with