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04-05-2018 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingTeletubby
Mobile verification is frequently used to open up online banking and other such accounts. Such a system would serve to reassure casual players that they are playing in a secure environment. And, like I explained in my post, there wouldn't be a need for recreational players to do it once they have a picture on file with global. The only people that would be frequently subjected to it are people that play a lot and shouldn't have a problem with it unless they are botters or multi accounters themselves. It isn't difficult or time consuming to take a selfie with a cell phone, so I really don't understand why you reacted so emotionally to my suggestion.
LOLOL, you are clueless ... if you think taking a selfie when they ask.... that doesnt stop the person running a bot program, and they dont need other accounts, a bot program can play multiple tables at once and the person running it can also be playing.....so take a selfie ????
04-05-2018 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingTeletubby
Mobile verification is frequently used to open up online banking and other such accounts. Such a system would serve to reassure casual players that they are playing in a secure environment. And, like I explained in my post, there wouldn't be a need for recreational players to do it once they have a picture on file with global. The only people that would be frequently subjected to it are people that play a lot and shouldn't have a problem with it unless they are botters or multi accounters themselves. It isn't difficult or time consuming to take a selfie with a cell phone, so I really don't understand why you reacted so emotionally to my suggestion.
It is possible that you feel this way as well as a subset of the players on Global, but most fish don't think this deep. They just get off work, have dinner, smoke a bowl before sitting down to play like a MTT or two while smoking a few more bowls and maybe also getting the hookah going on the side. Of course, I forgot, they also have the RNG thread open so that they can whine about how ****ty they feel about their losses.
04-06-2018 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tincup2009
LOLOL, you are clueless ... if you think taking a selfie when they ask.... that doesnt stop the person running a bot program, and they dont need other accounts, a bot program can play multiple tables at once and the person running it can also be playing.....so take a selfie ????
He's not clueless, its's you who have no idea what you're talking about. Everybody knows how bots operate; it's not some new discovery that you made by finding search results on youtube. The bots that were banned were running 12+ different accounts. The fact that they had access to 12 different account probably means the some of them were fraudulent. I think mobile verification is a really good idea.
04-06-2018 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tincup2009
go to youtube and watch how they work.....watch the timing on bets, the timing is the same at each point, preflop,turn, and river....i pulled up all the tables that this one guy was on and watched him react at the exact same time on three tables out of 8 tables he was on
If you have evidence that someone is a bot please report it to: support@globalpoker.com

Even if your account remains banned, you can still do your part to make Global Poker an environment free of bots.
04-08-2018 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tincup2009
from my understanding, Global or any other poker site has the ability to scan computer systems for bot programs, so anyone running the programs will be caught.

Myself, Global is denied me access to my account saying I played to soft to a player?! m pissed that a bot can run a program but if i figure out how to get over the bubble to make it to the money then Im cheating... we cant control how or what other players play but they are holding me accountable for others bad playing!! where is the justice in that
Why is nobody responding to this guys posts? He is claiming his account was banned for soft play and GP isnt responding to his emails, if you really werent cheating/colluding I would create your own thread and keep contacting GP.
04-11-2018 , 08:02 AM
After reading here tonight lost my old account some how. I'd only posted maybe 5 times but let me give you all that care what I found. There is a site as we speak selling the bot even for global and updating it daily. Didn't take long to find at all. So is it being able to play undetected is the question I guess? I knew some of those names mentioned I'd played against an avoided some times. Sometimes I'd play them more to try an figure out how they were crushing me consistently.
04-11-2018 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ProAces
After reading here tonight lost my old account some how. I'd only posted maybe 5 times but let me give you all that care what I found. There is a site as we speak selling the bot even for global and updating it daily. Didn't take long to find at all. So is it being able to play undetected is the question I guess? I knew some of those names mentioned I'd played against an avoided some times. Sometimes I'd play them more to try an figure out how they were crushing me consistently.
Majority of those bots were awful aside from 2 or 3. I know there is one bot on the site currently that is undetected as I know the individual running an experiment to see how long it takes for Globals new expert team to detect it.

I have little faith Global can stop this on their own but I hope I’m wrong.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 04-11-2018 at 04:55 PM.
04-11-2018 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by StaYSMacKed
I know there is one bot on the site currently that is undetected as I know the individual running an experiment to see how long it takes for Globals new expert team to detect it.


Be a decent human and report this person you know please...doesn’t matter what their purpose is or how bad the bot is. Also do not link bot websites no matter how easy it is to find.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 04-11-2018 at 04:56 PM.
04-11-2018 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
Be a decent human and report this person you know please...doesn’t matter what their purpose is or how bad the bot is. Also do not link bot websites no matter how easy it is to find.


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I almost included it. Actually gave that thought though. I just don't believe GP is taking it serious. An collusion is still at an all time high on gp sngs!
04-11-2018 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ProAces
I almost included it. Actually gave that thought though. I just don't believe GP is taking it serious. An collusion is still at an all time high on gp sngs!
It’s very well known and one of the ****tiest ones out there. It’s not the bot that is concerning, it’s how easy bots are to set up on browser based site. It’s not exclusive to Global, it’s a Cubeia software problem.
04-29-2018 , 03:11 PM
I recall playing vs some of those names and never got any notification from Global about info regarding game integrity. Guess it makes sense that
I didn't receive any refund since I had them marked as fun players and probably didn't lose to them.

Thanks global for the hard work in improving game integrity.


What smacked said about the deep web huds etc, does anyone have more info on this stuff or it just a claim?
05-15-2018 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by StaYSMacKed
It’s very well known and one of the ****tiest ones out there. It’s not the bot that is concerning, it’s how easy bots are to set up on browser based site. It’s not exclusive to Global, it’s a Cubeia software problem.
Hey Smacked. Please don't be part of the problem. You have been helpful up to this point but you need to tell that person to cut it out or you become part of the issue.

Agreed with mostly everything you have said prior to you knowing one of the guys running a bot though. If you need help with identifying bots feel free to PM me.

I have been quite skeptical of many players on GP over the past few months to the point where I went and played elsewhere. Especially with what GP supports...
05-15-2018 , 04:25 PM
What is going to take Global Poker under is information about Global Poker's [VGW's] developers going out and supporting underground software that people are putting out to capture hand histories or data-mine the site.

Here is a screenshot from one of the underground programs github repo for capturing hand histories/data-mining. As you can see the employee of VGW/Global Poker on this section of the github repo is giving this person props for their "Nice Plugin".

Global Poker has came out and told many people we will be permanently banned for use of this type of software but the companies employees are encouraging it in other places.

My guess would be that these same employees are part of the bot rings that are happening. Detection is amazingly hard without access to hand histories being exported and analysis externally of the site.
05-15-2018 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ProAces
An collusion is still at an all time high on gp sngs!
at what stakes? At 55+ I've never seen collusion over infinite games

yourgfmyrailbird: I'm aware of one botring that was broken up like 4 months ago or so, have there been others that are public knowledge?
05-15-2018 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by yourgfmyrailbird
Hey Smacked. Please don't be part of the problem. You have been helpful up to this point but you need to tell that person to cut it out or you become part of the issue.

Agreed with mostly everything you have said prior to you knowing one of the guys running a bot though. If you need help with identifying bots feel free to PM me.

I have been quite skeptical of many players on GP over the past few months to the point where I went and played elsewhere. Especially with what GP supports...
I quit playing Global 1.5 months ago for these reasons. Just today their was another bot ring busted with players issued refunds. Hard to say who passed along info, but I passed along a ton myself awhile back.

The site has become a joke, their security doesn't catch anything, their RNG is questionable at best if you run large sample frequencies, and they don't stop banned software.

Above all else, what will take the Global ship down is their continuous blatant lies about their "partnership" with PayPal. It's pretty funny that for a company that is partnered with PayPal, if anyone disputes a purchase, their only proof is sending PayPal a fake shipping tracking number to claim the purchase was delivered. That's an entire new exposed thread that'll be made tho...
05-15-2018 , 08:45 PM
I got a refund yesterday about this most recent bot ring. Sounds like this whole thing needs to be blown wide open for the public.
05-15-2018 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by yourgfmyrailbird
I got a refund yesterday about this most recent bot ring. Sounds like this whole thing needs to be blown wide open for the public.
I did too, do you know what games it's from?
05-15-2018 , 10:26 PM
Nothing here, played just NL 6max 5/10+. I hope they are refunding rake paid by the bots to players as well.
05-16-2018 , 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by cpar1
I did too, do you know what games it's from?
I believe it was from 2/4 and/or 3/6 nl.
05-16-2018 , 11:53 AM
I received a refund the other day. I hadnt played a hand on GP between December and April and I only played for 2-3 days in April. All the April volume was at nl100 as well. I got a little over a buyin, which is honestly pretty high for how much I could have maximally been affected by a bot.

Really hope global becomes more transparent and starts allowing us to dl hands again, as the problem will only get worse.
05-16-2018 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by djz
Really hope global becomes more transparent and starts allowing us to dl hands again, as the problem will only get worse.
Again? I don't think they have allowed it before. Perhaps my memory is going in my old age.
05-16-2018 , 03:15 PM
They were in business for nearly a year before they updated the TOS and threatened banhammer for using chrome extension. There was talk of updating the TOS many months before that tho.
05-16-2018 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Apex
They were in business for nearly a year before they updated the TOS and threatened banhammer for using chrome extension. There was talk of updating the TOS many months before that tho.
Yeah this. I remember GlobalJoey even saying on the forums they are OK with players being able to analyze their own HHs. Even if they never intended for mass DB analysis to be possible I think the ToS violations (in the forms of botting+collusion rings) are way more egregious and harmful to the site+players than HH review which literally no other site has such absurd restrictions on.
05-16-2018 , 04:57 PM
I received a refund today also. Is it specifically nl? I only played nl in Nov/Dec time frame besides a few tourneys here and there. Most of the time I'm playing PLO. Hopefully there aren't issues moving forward bc I like the site.

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05-16-2018 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by StaYSMacKed
I quit playing Global 1.5 months ago for these reasons. Just today their was another bot ring busted with players issued refunds. Hard to say who passed along info, but I passed along a ton myself awhile back.

The site has become a joke, their security doesn't catch anything, their RNG is questionable at best if you run large sample frequencies, and they don't stop banned software.

Above all else, what will take the Global ship down is their continuous blatant lies about their "partnership" with PayPal. It's pretty funny that for a company that is partnered with PayPal, if anyone disputes a purchase, their only proof is sending PayPal a fake shipping tracking number to claim the purchase was delivered. That's an entire new exposed thread that'll be made tho...
Even if you think the rng is legit the bots and collusion are out of control/ make the games nearly unplayable. Is there an open list of bots/ colluders? I briefly scanned multiple stakes i play and there are still 15-17 suspect bots playing. It's kinda insane to think the bots don't even have to be that strong if they share hole cards.

A brief google search shows you can buy multiple global poker capable bots for as low as $40 a piece.

      
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