I do the same, light blue if you must know

I also make note of the person I suspect they are colluding with and then keep an eye out at the tables to see if those two show up again together and watch their play without participating. Once I see enough that looks fishy, I pull out ShareX (an open source screen recording and screen snapshot software) and make video of what I see and send it to support. That captures the hand IDs and other things as well, so hopefully support can take action.

I also then avoid them as well. I figure if someone is colluding with another players, they likely aren't doing it with just one other player. So I should not play against people where it seems like an issue.

This will only get harder to detect.

If global was truly interested in getting rid of all the scummy **** then they need to release all hand histories with all cards shown to anyone who requests it at the end of the month. Mandatory screen name changes should also be inplemented at the end of each month.

Give a 20% reward/ bounty to anyone who catches bots, collusion, softplay, chip dumping etc etc. Obviously the accusations would have to be based on technical analysis and not random accusations. If more than one player reports the same incident with proof then the 20% of siezed funds is evenly divided. The rest of the funds are given to the players that were cheated.

How would this help stop collusion?

Yeah i just got screwed over so bad today in the mid to high stakes SNGs. An obvious bot going ridiculous winning every single all-in. I played for 12 hours today with him. I couldnt win a hand or all-in. Honestly. Also there was so much collusion i just got so titled which i never do.

I am a winning player and in 1 day against these cheaters i lose my entire bankroll. I couldnt believe my eyes what was happening.

Not depositing or playing on Global Poker until they refund me. Its bull****.

Honestly i hate being angry but these is my lively hood.

welcome to the club, unfortunately. Hopefully Chicago Joey or somebody else can get to the bottom of this soon, im getting pm's from people about it and seeing more and more posts like this and seeing it myself since WPN has had their issues and traffic keeps growing here while security or player ability to do it does not.

edit - if its ur livelihood tho u should never put ur whole roll into play in a day, or close to that. correction I put more than my roll into play over the course of a sng session but losing it all in a day would never happen. With sngs 20bi stop loss unless you're playing hypers should be stop loss for a day, well kinda.

If being down $130 is you're whole roll and poker is your livelyhood I think you should have some other kind of income coming in. Not trying to be rude but that is not sustainable.

The bankroll management, it hurts my eyes.

if anything it would favor collusion imo

+1

So how do you guys detect bots? What do you look for? There are always players multitabling for 6hrs straight who play fairly tight, so what more can you look at when suspecting someone?

I really hope ChiacagoJoey provides an update on investigating this site. Lot of questions to be answered. Putting our faith in the rep Joey saying "we hired leaders to protect you!" is a giant smoke screen if I've ever seen one.

For this being your livelyhood you sure do get it in bad an awful lot

its laughable imo

I think that this is a much bigger problem than most people realize. If Global Poker is serious about cleaning up the games I think they should implement something like "Mobile Verify":

"Face comparison adds another factor of identity verification

Be sure the person submitting the ID document is who they say they are with face comparison. Mitek's Mobile Verify Face Comparison SDK uses advanced liveness detection so it cannot be spoofed. The user simply takes a selfie and the photo is compared to the photo on the ID document." (https://www.miteksystems.com/mobile-verify)

Randomly force an account to sit out on the next big blind and then lock the account until it has passed something like this system. If an account always has delays in verifying themselves then increase the frequency at which they are subjected to the identity check. Global can require that the person takes their selfie with the account locked screen in the background. This immediately stops multi accounting, as well as people who are running bots from running multiple bot accounts. Further, with a selfie on record, botters and cheaters who are banned will be unable to pass a detection system like this in the future, while currently they can just use other people's identities/documents/vpns to make multiple accounts indefinitely. I think that global poker should also do more verification and possibly require more documentation before they allow new accounts to actually play in the games.

WELL, iam one of the players that they accused of cheating!!! it is bull**** that they can just say your card play is unusual....we all meet people on here by playing cards each and everyday, this doesn't mean you know each other! you know how they play or you may favor someone over the table bully or ass....when you learn from all the notes and hands played, you learn how to get over the bubble, your play changes with stack size and chip position...THIS DOESNT MEAN YOUR CHEATING!!! I have been emailing global poker suport and they refuse to reply...
I have spent a lot of money to get where I was at, just because someone thought i was cheating, i had a stocker on here that would show up in the chat box at every table i was at....i know he had two accounts maybe more by now, how easy is it for him to complain that i was cheating to get me kicked off??
THERE YOU GO GUY'S, IF YOU LOOSE MONEY JUST REPORT THEM AS A CHEATER AND GLOBAL WILL REFUND YOU....

I was trolled by someone in this forum and I would assume w Emails sent to GP support saying that my account was a bot account several months ago when I was putting in quite a bit of volume. Support did Email me and ask me to send a selfie w me holding my Drivers Licence next to my face.

something has to happen here!! Im one of the guy's they accused of cheating or teaming up with someone else, it never happened!! anybody at anytime can report issues to global, i know i did...i caught a guy playing and responding at the same time on 8 tables. i pulled up all 8 tables and watched...he called blinds on three tables at the exact sametime..!! I did my research on bots, they're programs that run if you want them to, the person running a bot can still talk to people in the chat box if he wants to...youtube it...but at the sametime i was kicked off because of someone complaining about me, they said i have unusual card play....of course i do, it all depends on stack size and chip position...its a fight to get over the bubble

go to youtube and watch how they work.....watch the timing on bets, the timing is the same at each point, preflop,turn, and river....i pulled up all the tables that this one guy was on and watched him react at the exact same time on three tables out of 8 tables he was on

that doesnt make any sense ??? bots are a program that runs on your computer, you can watch it or play when you want at anytime.... do your research on bot programs...there is always someone behind it, so they could send a picture and id at any time..

That's pretty cool that Global's at least doing that. However, anyone could sign up with a friend's or relative's details and easily foil that test. I think that security needs to be taken the next level as it hasn't really changed much in online poker over the past decade. Currently, the average person doesn't have a lot of trust in online poker. Are they playing against bots? Teams of colluders? Is the game itself rigged? If people are subjected to random identity verification tests while they are playing, people can at least know that they are playing against a unique person's account; even if there is a bot behind an account, that bot can only ever access Global through that one person's account.

Since Global banned the bots spoken about in this thread, I've noticed more than a dozen new suspicious accounts that showed up at almost the exact same time. Not all of them are necessarily bots or multi accounters, but I suspect the worse, as it is currently too easy to make an account on global poker and access the games.

Players can spend weeks gathering evidence just to prove an account is a bot, when after being banned that bot will just come back on a friend's or relative's account with a new name. The people that are actually behind accounts on a daily basis need to be identified by Global, so if they are ever caught cheating they can be permanently banned from the website. When you log into Global you don't just have access to your own sweeps cash and gold coins, but you have the capability to win other people's sweeps cash and gold coins. Therefore, I think Global should implement some type of policy like this. If someone consistently has delays in verifying their identity Global can more closely monitor the account and would have another reason to stop doing business with someone that it has an abnormal number of reports about. Casual players that only play 1 table and don't exhibit bot like behavior could be very rarely subjected to such identity checks after they have passed an initial one, whereas people who want to play a lot of tables for 12 hours a day shouldn't have a problem spending a couple minutes multiple times a day helping to ensure the integrity of the games by randomly having to take a selfie which can just turn into the players break.

you guy's dont understand what a BOT is, it is a program that runs on your computer. you are able to turn it on and off!! So taking a selfie with a drivvers license doesnt do anything to prove if they are running a BOT PROGRAM...at anytime a person can shut the BOT program off and jump in and play or finish a hand.

Lol the guys suggesting the mobile verification thing are clueless. A really bad/losing player is much less likely to go through this process to play the games, I would rather take some collusion or short-term bot presence as well as Global continues to take excellent measures against these vultures. Maybe there is a better way, but enforcing barriers to entry has never been a good idea from the Economics standpoint throughout history.

from my understanding, Global or any other poker site has the ability to scan computer systems for bot programs, so anyone running the programs will be caught.

Myself, Global is denied me access to my account saying I played to soft to a player?! m pissed that a bot can run a program but if i figure out how to get over the bubble to make it to the money then Im cheating... we cant control how or what other players play but they are holding me accountable for others bad playing!! where is the justice in that

No, we do understand what a bot is, it's you who has completely failed to understand my post. The problem with botters is that once they have a profitable bot, they run multiple accounts with that bot across all of the stakes. A selfie ensures that anyone botting can only ever run 1 bot on Global poker. And, when they are discovered as a bot by other players or by Global they would be unable to return the website with different or fake documents.

Mobile verification is frequently used to open up online banking and other such accounts. Such a system would serve to reassure casual players that they are playing in a secure environment. And, like I explained in my post, there wouldn't be a need for recreational players to do it once they have a picture on file with global. The only people that would be frequently subjected to it are people that play a lot and shouldn't have a problem with it unless they are botters or multi accounters themselves. It isn't difficult or time consuming to take a selfie with a cell phone, so I really don't understand why you reacted so emotionally to my suggestion.