i got $1600~ back btw

Wow, good work guys. Glad to see global took care of it as well!

collusion in all sngs is rampant, i just avoid them at all costs at this point.

would appreciate a return though.

also quick shout out to ip blocking the eastern block altogether, not because they are that good but because they are commonly known among most players as colluders and botters.

edit: coming up on about a decade+ now.

This is great they are refunding cash players and all, but how come when I sent global definite proof of people culloding in my sngs they said thanks we will look into these accounts but you agreed to clause 16 in the terms of service which states we will not refund any player. There are multiple accounts I sent info on about culloding or multi accounting and they were banned right after that. I did not receive one refund. So do they pick and choose who they want to refund?

Fair question, I have a theory that they probably don't want to address the SNG issue, because they possibly would have to do what ACR did, which was just simply close down their sngs like acr's double or nothing games.

I crushed SNGs on global so hard I had people coming to me in cash games, asking me why I even bothered to venture outside of SNGs. The obvious answer was I started to spot OBVIOUS collusion, and instead of recording my games and point it out to support and sending it to them, I just said screw it, I'll play more cash.

I will not play another sng on global til this is addressed or they start running heads up sit and goes. plain and simple. And I'd liken everyone who is suspicious of play to do like wise, hit global where it hurts them most, their bottomline.

if somebody has the technical ability to create/run a bot I'm pretty sure they know how to mask their location.

That's obvious and also probably why global like I said in my last post does not want to address this situation at all, much like ACR.

I know that this is a browser based poker site, but I suppose it is possible to somehow generate a "zoom" like atmosphere towards their SNGs. Obviously this would just be one easy quick fix for micro-mid stakes games that run constantly and would not benefit the higher stakes.

besides alt+control+deleting sngs altogether this is the only way I can think of that could fix the solution, for the masses.

+1+1Million

wanna add more to that theory? The ceo and creator of global are scheduled to be on a pod with joey pretty soon.

If true all the nit regs going to spaz as that'll likely raise more awareness of this gem of a site!

Good glad to hear it. Joey will get some answers of most of the questions that need answered . I hope. If not nothing has changed for me.

Collusion and Bots .

Oh and what I meant was Acr does refunds and then all of a sudden after months of investigation on Bots that was brought to global by players in this thread bam they refund and found bots. Just a coincidence I guess

There's nothing to the theory, global already started investigating the bots before acr events were on joey podcast.

U allowed to post the SNs? Did you stop playing Bc of this?

can you elaborate please? im not so much concerned about bots as I am collusion in the games I play. Not being able to access any form of hhs Im at a loss as to how to investigate this myself and feel I am being taken advantage of at times. I also have no idea what sort of "proof" I'd be able to provide to GP. I'm aware bad players can seem as though they're colluding but it seems to happen too often and something seems off and I obv cant post or report every suspicion I have with no evidence. If you don't want to post info here please pm me.

source?

I wish everyone would stop PMing me to keep quiet on these bots. Yes, I'm fully aware the bot creators probably read these forums. I'm also aware that Global Poker removes the ability for the public players to identify this via removing HH, etc. If Global can not properly protect their players, there is no reason we should keep quiet and let players get burnt by suspected bots. Not speaking up does nothing. If a bot maker keeps up and keeps adjusting, Global needs to take measures to tighten their security. Additionally, as the site doesn't cater to regs or reward them in any way, there is 0 incentive to keep quiet and along with to assume they'll tackle this on their own.

As is, most of these bots sit HU, they also have very weird sizing when you take weird lines vs them. I don't believe that all bots are fully removed. In fact there are a few that I'm very convinced are new ones. If I'm wrong, I apologize but it serves as a warning to anyone playing these accounts that I suspect they may be.

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It’s on his Twitter

“I've been looking more into Global Poker & how good of an option it is for players.

It looks like I will be having the founder & CEO of Global Poker on my podcast in the very near future to find out more & ask questions many of us have about the site.

Ya I agree I been complaining about it almost every day to global telling them the site is getting more fishy. I even started saying stuff in chat like your caught you both are colluding and they will be in the blinds and they jump off the table right away don't even wait for the button. It is not just 6 max it is also the 9 max games. Good to see global to start to take these cheaters out.

If you have evidence that those accounts are cheating I suggest starting a new thread to increase the visibility. If botters just opened new accounts starting a community effort to identify them seems like a pretty good idea to me.

I second what Stroggos said about having little optimism that GP will be proactive in this moving forward. Player intervention is what caught the cheats and got us refunds. It’s naive to assume GP has the capability of policing this sort of thing.

I suspect colluding in the 1/2 and up PLO games as well. It's very strange happenings.

I’ve sent tons of info to Global. Some on new ones, some one last accounts that got banned. The problem is that Global isn’t catching them on their own and their investigations aren’t speedy or transparent. The more we can raise awarensss to these suspected accounts the better. Global doesn’t deserve a free pass in the slightest and we don’t owe anything to Global to allow them time as they’ve proven incompetent on their own. Many regs don’t want them pitted while they investigate them because the accounts are pretty exploitable, especially heads up. Everyone has an agenda.

I got 1.8k back, don't believe it's near enough based on the volume I've put in against bots, even if I was winning/even vs them. Still shouldn't have to play vs nonhuman players. That being said, at least they did something.

So why is no one posting the SNs that have been banned and the behavior they were exhibiting that lead them to believe these accounts were bots? If the community is armed with this info we can identify future bots on the site much quicker.

As far as regs wanting to play them HU. 2+ bots at your table sharing hole card info is going to be really hurting WR and you can’t even quantify to what degree. A bot owner could also be a real player and have access to the hole card info ingame. I don’t even see Ermer and Stroggos logging in anymore so I doubt they are in that camp. Are you saying you don’t want to post Bc you want HU action from the new bots?