Received a small refund. Play 1/2 and 2/4.

I had been away the past 10 days, but today during my afternoon session normal regs were missing, and 3-5 new regs had popped up that I had never seen before. I know it is a small sample size, but you wonder how easy it is to get a bot up and running.

Maybe it is time to change some of the authentication processes? Most of us players would be willing to have a discussion on ways to counteract the bots.

Also can you have Paypal take any action on this? It's one thing to setup a dummy poker account, but moving large funds on Paypal is way more difficult. Setting up bank accounts, verifying those accounts with SS numbers. You would have to imagine most of the money is being diverted from the dummy accounts to one or two Paypal accounts. This isn't a bitcoin site, you guys have access to legitimate paper trails. Find those accounts and Paypal can take care of the rest.

This could work in theory if Global was actually partnered with PayPal as they claim. Unfortunately, the reality is they’re just as scummy as the bots and are lying about their partnership and abusing PayPal and tricking them. When anyone opens a dispute with PayPal , Global is defending it by creating fake shipment tracking and sending it to PayPal to fight the dispute. Pretty odd thing to do for a company your partnered with...sending fake shipment tracking for a digital product? hmmmmm....

Dear xxxxxx,

Your seller has provided shipment tracking information in response to your claim. We used the shipping company's online tracking service and found that it confirms delivery of the merchandise. As a result, this case has been closed.

Transaction Details

Case number: Xxxxxxxx

Seller's name: VGW Holdings Limited

Seller's email: payment@globalpoker.com

Seller's transaction ID: xxxxxxxxx

Transaction date: Xxxxx, 2018

Transaction amount: xxxxx

Your transaction ID: xxxxxxx

To learn how we review and resolve claims, you can view the PayPal User Agreement, which you accepted when you created your PayPal account. Simply click Legal at the bottom of any PayPal page.

Please note: Records of all cases are kept in the Resolution Center for your convenience.

Sincerely,

PayPal

This is not related to collusion per se, but any comments on this hand?

https://play.globalpoker.com/poker-c...4b051665354bd4

I had been playing with this guy for a couple of hours and he seemed to me a reasonable reg. I had lost another $200 pot half an hour earlier or so to him when I opened AKs UTG, he 3bet AJs in MP and flopped top 2. He also opened K7s UTG and hit a gutshot flush versus a set on the river.

Up to that point, I hadn't seen him get out of line and I chalked everything up to variance until the hand above happened. If you're too lazy to watch, basically he squeezes 87o in the SB, flats my 4bet, and flops a straight versus my set in a 1 SPR pot. I said something in the chat, but he didn't reply and left about 5 hands later.

Believe me, I'm not one to believe in conspiracies, etc. But with everything that's been happening recently, and especially having seen this thread, is it possible that a browser poker client isn't completely secure?

This is classic case of what I saw non stop on global, set up action after action. It’s a sweepstakes site. Wouldn’t be surprised if RNG is set up for action. Bigger pots = more rake and it’s keeps fish in action longer.

See I'm not talking about "set up hands." This wasn't really a cooler. I'm proposing the possibility that someone (maybe not even this guy) was able to crack the RNG. I know fish do some stupid things, but I've never seen anyone flat a 4bet out of position with a hand as bad as 87o

StaySmacked - were you trying to chargeback your deposits or what?

goldfishshark - I would be 0.0% concerned with anything illegitimate going on in that hand. Just a tough break.

Consensus seems to be I should've 4bet a little bigger. It's no secret I run like crap though.. I'm just very surprised that this thread even exists tbh. I wish Global would be MUCH more transparent about these types of things. Though, I guess the same is true with all sites...

I see so much random stubborn calls that this is far from anything to worry about.

Insanely easy to get winning bot up and running lol. Probably a few hours from Google search to getting it onto the tables.

Yeah I think this is the case on GP. You also did something like the hand described to me more than once lol (call 3bet 98o or something and just always flopped a ton of equity (like pair+gutter/oesd) and gone with it).

I’ve seen some questionable plays like this as well. What I do is just put a note on that player that he’s some sort of super user and avoid him if I cross paths with him again. It may be that he’s just a damn ******, but avoid anyways just in case.

you dont notice the times they call 3bets and 4bets with garbage and just quickly x/f

tbh this is the only 4bet pot I can think of where the flatter was OOP. There are very few 4bet pots to begin with in 50nl.

Seems odd, I havent recieved a refund yet, mainly play 1-2 and 2-4 but play alot higher at times and literally had a bunch of instances where i felt like i was being colluded

https://play.globalpoker.com/poker-c...4b050aeac8783b

I've seen some pretty interesting hands lately and stumbled on to this thread. I know I played with some of the names mentioned months ago, I never saw any sort of reimbursement or refund.. Hand history doesn't go back that far and doesn't list players names. What might my options be in seeking this..?

Emailing support is the place to go, but understand it is going to be a while, they are overwhelmed I would guess right now with cashout requests and worldpay drama.

Thanks for the response. Did that. I'm in no hurry. Curious what merits some players being "refunded" seemingly at random. Or is inquiring with Global on it what prompts them to have integrity with this matter..

I was told that refunds are given to players who lost money to the bots. If you made money versus the bots overall, then you received no refund.

Well honestly you raised with K8s from UTG. You should have folded pre. Could have been a stupid fish floating the flop not believing you had anything. Once he hit his gutterball turn straight flush draw, the average fish isn’t going anywhere no matter what you bet. Could be just bad luck. Could be something else. You’ll never know. But yeah, K8 UTG is a fold.

bump. we got another refund, boys. this is like rakeback.

Hey guys, im a .50/1 and 1/2 reg... I received a refund today as well. Was only $176 but I’m curious who it was they caught! I see a ton of the same names all the time that $176 is prob on the small end but I’ll take what I can get. I’ve been on a 2 week vacation so haven’t played in about 1.5 weeks so this was a nice little surprise nonetheless!

-SIRRRRR

Lol it's clear I've been playing against numerous bots the past few months and my refund happens to be $39.01 while I play the highest stakes on the site. They could have just spit in my face instead.

Was playing 400 PLO the other day, playing someone HU. Another person joined and ALMOST INSTANTLY after the person sat, the remaining seats filled at the exact same time with shortstackers.. Is this a coincidence.. or... lol