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01-08-2018 , 01:38 PM
I tossed in sharkscope errors because

1) Sharkscope was not properly tracking he tournaments (ie: one could not see the players listed) and there have been Sharkscope reporting errors before with even crazier OMG end of world reactions.

2) It amused (though did not surprise) me that nobody else considered that a possibility amid all the super user and house bots/cheating things being tossed around.

3) I knew the last thing it would be is a super user slowly grinding out a thousand a month playing nano stakes in trackable games, even though I have no doubt some people actually believe this is the efficient way for a super user to behave.


I also pointed out how it would not be that difficult to chip dump in games higher than $2 once one thinks a bit outside of the box.


It is certainly fine that this thread exists and good job those who caught the results on sharkscope. I certainly hope in future that concerns like this will be presented in a more logical, professional manner, but that is pretty much wishful thinking on my part, and odds are the tiny minority of threads like this that are worthy of investigation will take some effort to get past all the people screaming stuff as they run in circles filled with panic.
01-08-2018 , 04:41 PM
I think we could all agree that the thread could have been titled better, and approached with less emotion from the start. But as has been pointed out... when you feel you've truly spotted something or have been cheated, that can be difficult to keep in check.

Moral of the story seems to be... take a more logical, measured approach with threads if you're starting one... but also don't just jump down someone's throat because they sound a bit tilted. That's my two cents anyway.

We can all try to take each other's money on the table... but off, it sure seems like the poker community should have the same goals in mind.
01-08-2018 , 11:46 PM
Has anyone looked into jump judy 2 yet? He has another mixnof odd cashing streaks in 1$ sngs. His highest is 22 in a row. Maybe people are that bad in the 1$ idk
01-08-2018 , 11:58 PM
im still wondering the policy for refunding the victims or if there is one? Especially the recreational victims right? Or is it better to not tell them and hope they didn't notice, aka dont tell on yourself that it happens in the 1st place by making it right? It's probably just another part of what we are supposed to overlook due to the softness of the player pool. Side note cash games are good I do quite like those, sngs not so much lol
01-09-2018 , 01:12 AM
@ splayaa or anybody else who thinks they can communicate that concept better please feel free, I don't know how to be as polite or skilled with my words as is apparently required in todays world, I have good ideas etc but am not coming from such a cushy or well adjusted life circumstance that i can be politically, socially, morally, and every other form of correct constantly and i realize that and therefore i give up. Honestly I dont want to be accepted or a part of this "big brother" type of environment but I have no other choice apparently.
01-09-2018 , 04:17 AM
There is definitely something to the OP (ignoring his absurd conclusions). Today I had 2 sngs, a $30 hyper and a $70 hyper where I joined and then 5 players instantly joined behind me. First hand 3 of them shoved all in and then they all went all in on the 2nd and third hands until one of them had all of the chips but mine. They all had new accounts that had won a couple smaller sngs. The accounts are Petwood, SuFfErEr, qmw9ate, 60r0car6ide, Flstrip, erucipe, Alcoholized, mugearite, KASI3, Fingal.

This isn't a problem for players, since they are gifting you a free 2nd place if you fold for 3 hands. How someone could see their activities and conclude that global was trying to cheat them is beyond me. I emailed global and told them too look at those accounts and tourneys, but free money alert for any of you sng grinders who see 5 randoms join your game and shove in 3 ways on the first hand.
01-09-2018 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Fisherprice1
Has anyone looked into jump judy 2 yet? He has another mixnof odd cashing streaks in 1$ sngs. His highest is 22 in a row. Maybe people are that bad in the 1$ idk
definitely explioting something... mentioned it earlier in the thread I followed him around for a whole day and he open sits lobbies and leaves every time I join pretty sus. I have an awful graph in 6 max sngs I highly doubt he’s table selecting.
01-09-2018 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Fisherprice1
Has anyone looked into jump judy 2 yet? He has another mixnof odd cashing streaks in 1$ sngs. His highest is 22 in a row. Maybe people are that bad in the 1$ idk
He was one of the three people mentioned earlier in the thread. He chipdumps at the 1 dollar games and plays normally in other games.

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Originally Posted by SchwiftyNick
definitely explioting something... mentioned it earlier in the thread I followed him around for a whole day and he open sits lobbies and leaves every time I join pretty sus. I have an awful graph in 6 max sngs I highly doubt he’s table selecting.
I've played with him in a number of SnGs, not sure what his deal is, exactly, but he plays straight up in the higher games as far as I can tell.
01-09-2018 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MaqEvil
There is definitely something to the OP (ignoring his absurd conclusions). Today I had 2 sngs, a $30 hyper and a $70 hyper where I joined and then 5 players instantly joined behind me. First hand 3 of them shoved all in and then they all went all in on the 2nd and third hands until one of them had all of the chips but mine. They all had new accounts that had won a couple smaller sngs. The accounts are Petwood, SuFfErEr, qmw9ate, 60r0car6ide, Flstrip, erucipe, Alcoholized, mugearite, KASI3, Fingal.

This isn't a problem for players, since they are gifting you a free 2nd place if you fold for 3 hands. How someone could see their activities and conclude that global was trying to cheat them is beyond me. I emailed global and told them too look at those accounts and tourneys, but free money alert for any of you sng grinders who see 5 randoms join your game and shove in 3 ways on the first hand.
ssssshhhhhh

(same thing happened to me in a 20+2 6m)
01-09-2018 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SitandSpin
He was one of the three people mentioned earlier in the thread. He chipdumps at the 1 dollar games and plays normally in other games.



I've played with him in a number of SnGs, not sure what his deal is, exactly, but he plays straight up in the higher games as far as I can tell.
chip dumping at the 1$ games to then play normal at a different stake is not ok & he should be permabanned really who is looking into this **** its laid out there for them & probably would not take more than 20 minutes to figure out.
01-09-2018 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MaqEvil
There is definitely something to the OP (ignoring his absurd conclusions). Today I had 2 sngs, a $30 hyper and a $70 hyper where I joined and then 5 players instantly joined behind me. First hand 3 of them shoved all in and then they all went all in on the 2nd and third hands until one of them had all of the chips but mine. They all had new accounts that had won a couple smaller sngs. The accounts are Petwood, SuFfErEr, qmw9ate, 60r0car6ide, Flstrip, erucipe, Alcoholized, mugearite, KASI3, Fingal.

This isn't a problem for players, since they are gifting you a free 2nd place if you fold for 3 hands. How someone could see their activities and conclude that global was trying to cheat them is beyond me. I emailed global and told them too look at those accounts and tourneys, but free money alert for any of you sng grinders who see 5 randoms join your game and shove in 3 ways on the first hand.
this happens semi regularly & although its nice cause ( fold every hand til heads up then limp your premiums in pos cause the bots or human does not play post flop but will fold to a shove in pos. Easy Money but moral of the story none of this **** is cool & makes no sense to me because there is no clear collusion (you don’t always end up with the same account heads up) so if collusion they clearly blow at it
01-12-2018 , 01:55 AM
Just want to get others opinions. There is a player with Almost 900 sngs played in less than 4 days of having an account. Playing 8 15 and 30$ sngs. I guess it's possible to playing over 200 sngs a day just haven't seen it on here before. Any chance this is a bit?
01-12-2018 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Fisherprice1
Just want to get others opinions. There is a player with Almost 900 sngs played in less than 4 days of having an account. Playing 8 15 and 30$ sngs. I guess it's possible to playing over 200 sngs a day just haven't seen it on here before. Any chance this is a bit?
yes.. 200+ a day is possible if playing 10-12+ tables and mixing or all hypers. IIRC when I last looked at sitNspin's ss over a month ago his "most in a day" was ~240. I think i've done ~150 and I was only doing 8-10 tables.
01-12-2018 , 04:18 PM
Looks awful suspect.

If some guy created that many accounts and had all call everything but a penny well good luck cashing out.

03-16-2018 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BeerBottlez
Looks awful suspect.

If some guy created that many accounts and had all call everything but a penny well good luck cashing out.

in appreciation of collusion/bots and general cheating, I'll be forced to bump this.

lol @ nothing being said about this, however OBVIOUS it may seem. whatever happened to these players joey?
05-02-2018 , 09:34 PM
Internet poker is not poker. It is too easy to be cheated out of your money. This will only get worse as smart AI bots will soon be here. If you want a fairer game, play live. No sense hitting your head against the wall. By the way these guys who are challenging you are possibly being paid by the site you are accusing.
05-03-2018 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Fox76er
Internet poker is not poker. It is too easy to be cheated out of your money. This will only get worse as smart AI bots will soon be here. If you want a fairer game, play live. No sense hitting your head against the wall. By the way these guys who are challenging you are possibly being paid by the site you are accusing.
Thank you for bumping a 2 month old post so that you can bring us these pearls of wisdom. While we are on the topic of not trusting stuff also don't trust the following:

Online banking and shopping
ATMs
Dill pickles

But what you should trust is the places that don't have their business online, for instance:

Bernie Madoff
Door to door salesmen
Dill pickles

Hey look at that, it turns out the businesses who aren't online also have crooked thieves in their ranks. So then how should we proceed?

In everything, both online and offline proceed with caution. Always be weary of people cheating you. Never have more money in an investment than you are comfortable with. Never take anyone seriously in anonymous internet poker forums.
05-03-2018 , 09:57 AM
Especially don't trust door-to-door salesmen selling dill pickles. That s*** probably has e. coli.
05-03-2018 , 12:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox76er
Internet poker is not poker. It is too easy to be cheated out of your money. This will only get worse as smart AI bots will soon be here. If you want a fairer game, play live. No sense hitting your head against the wall. By the way these guys who are challenging you are possibly being paid by the site you are accusing.
Hmmm, let me guess, you’re over 40 and have never played more than 100k hands online, please provide evidence , well not even evidence, but a reason why you’re trying to drag GP without reason
05-03-2018 , 12:09 PM
Rocket ship flying is not safe flying, it is to easy to hit a meteor and explode, despite it rarely happening. This will only get worse as the space bots get here, if you want a safe trip, fly a rocket from earth to mars, as obviously no one has ever died there. By the way all these SpaceX guys who are challenging NASA are being baid by...... wait wtf he actually said GP is paying these dudes to post ��
05-04-2018 , 06:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox76er
Internet poker is not poker. It is too easy to be cheated out of your money. This will only get worse as smart AI bots will soon be here. If you want a fairer game, play live. No sense hitting your head against the wall. By the way these guys who are challenging you are possibly being paid by the site you are accusing.
Every time I make a post defending Global Poker, the company lets me play in freerolls without charge.
05-08-2018 , 01:30 AM
Just lookin on here to see whats being said.(I check monthly at best) I just had a similar issue with there service team I had a sng not a big one. ($2) dollar sng ($2 lousey dollars) an here's what happened. There was 4 of us left chip lead me and 2 obvious bot or program ran users with the chip lead. he had like 1800 i had 1300 i believe the other 2 had no more than 250 at the start of 4 handed..I may be off a little i aint looking up that math. anyway Ive never seen collusion or a bot more obvious i'm 2 spots away from the CL. The 2 bots whatever they are are sitting out but when im in my blinds he makes action its understandable at first then he starts leaking them my money by folding and they sit in raise him a few times etc. they chipped me all the way til he had 90 % i had 200 or 300 and the 1 left had 180 i think anyway final hand. I'm hot by now im lookin at 2 painted cards but im in no matter if i wanted to be or not blinded an anted in I see this SOBS CARDS BEFORE HE MAKES HIS CALL HE HAS (KK) anyway i email them and they actually said the most off the wall insulting thing he could have said.

which was
Gavin
9 days ago
Hello Kane,

Thank you for your email.

We will always investigate any serious claims of cheating as we do not tolerate unfair play on Global Poker however, your complaint that you are being cheated on every table you play, is just not realistic and cannot be taken seriously.

If you have serious concerns about specific players, please provide as much detail as you can including any information you might know, such as the date and time, the type of game and stakes you were playing, hand numbers, tournament numbers, screennames, and most importantly - why you think they were cheating. Once you provide some more specific information then we will be able to investigate this for you.

this is when i knew there is inside corruption or they just dont give a **** at all. It played it self out they investigated so they said lmao...


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Originally Posted by hoggymcdnld
before you dismiss me as some shmuck that's mad cause he lost money. I'm not that guy. I'm a winning player with more than 30,000 sit n goes on my resume. my screen names are hoggymcdnld, cdub3001, cdubduke. mostly on revolution network, stars and FT. I was a heavy hitter on cake poker in its heyday. now I play on global in my spare time....

playing on global earlier today I register for a sit n go. it pops up pretty fast so I register for the same sit n go again. and it also pops up really fast. within 20 seconds of each other I have both of them going. and both of them have the exact same players but I don't think anything of it at the time...first hand, first sit n go. PlayerA open shoves, I fold. playerB calls as do players C and D. the hands are as follows A= 3d-5d, B= 10c-2h, C= Ah-5c, D= js-3s. long story short the board runs out and player C wins the hand. knocks the other 3 out. next hand with 4500 chips(starting stack 1500) open shoves again. I fold, playerE calls. Player C wins the hand again and we're heads up. he shoves none stop for about 9-10 hands till I finally call. hits a 3 outer and its over. that didn't bother me much....however on the other table, the exact same thing was happening. to the T. the first player to act who was Player D on the other table open shoved. before I realized what was happening I called with JJ. then, just as the other table the other 3 players called as well. another long story short, board runs out, I lose. I'm out. so I sit and watch. one player has 7510 in chips, other guy 1490. the next hand they both get it in. hands are As-10h and 3c-10c. sit n go is over......kinda weird. so I did some research. went to sharkscope where they now keep track of global poker stats. looked up the names and to my surprise all the players had only ever played 2 sit no gos on global poker. 2 total games, not just sit n go and some mtts. just 2 games total. the ones I just played in. surely I made a mistake and misclicked a button or something. check it again. same thing. 2 games played for 5 different players. for 4 of the players their ROI's were the same, the ave stake was same the same and the profit was the same. except for one, obv........so I took a picture of my screen. wrote down the names and immediately emailed global poker support. their response?????? we don't have any players in our system with those names.... are you kidding me? I email them again explaining how unlikely it is that I would have so much free time on my hands and just made the whole thing up. this time I put the picture I took of my screen in the attachments. same response. "sir, we do not have any players with those accounts. you must be mistaken.".................I just don't understand the logic behind this whole thing. it almost felt like they were covering it up. I'm stuck and I don't know what to do, who to talk to and who is somebody that can address this. i don't know how long this has been happening and at what stakes. i don't understand why anybody would create fake accounts and play reckless like this unless the were the direct beneficiary of it. and i don't know how it could be profitable. what i do know is it happened and global wants nothing to do with this situation. SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP!!!

P.S. i have the picture but don't know how to put it on here. id be more than happy to show it. if that isn't good enough, ill give you the names of the players and you can sharkscope it yourselves. whatever it takes to expose this.
05-08-2018 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ProAces
I see this SOBS CARDS BEFORE HE MAKES HIS CALL HE HAS (KK) anyway i email them and they actually said the most off the wall insulting thing he could have said.

which was
Gavin
9 days ago
Hello Kane,

Thank you for your email.

We will always investigate any serious claims of cheating as we do not tolerate unfair play on Global Poker however, your complaint that you are being cheated on every table you play, is just not realistic and cannot be taken seriously.

If you have serious concerns about specific players, please provide as much detail as you can including any information you might know, such as the date and time, the type of game and stakes you were playing, hand numbers, tournament numbers, screennames, and most importantly - why you think they were cheating. Once you provide some more specific information then we will be able to investigate this for you.

this is when i knew there is inside corruption or they just dont give a **** at all. It played it self out they investigated so they said lmao...
This is just crazy that they wouldn't take this seriously. In the interest of getting help from the community maybe you could post the email that you sent Global, we might be able to improve upon/organize your points and get you some help.
05-08-2018 , 10:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by splayaa
Thank you for bumping a 2 month old post so that you can bring us these pearls of wisdom. While we are on the topic of not trusting stuff also don't trust the following:

Online banking and shopping
ATMs
Dill pickles

But what you should trust is the places that don't have their business online, for instance:

Bernie Madoff
Door to door salesmen
Dill pickles

Hey look at that, it turns out the businesses who aren't online also have crooked thieves in their ranks. So then how should we proceed?

In everything, both online and offline proceed with caution. Always be weary of people cheating you. Never have more money in an investment than you are comfortable with. Never take anyone seriously in anonymous internet poker forums.
Never have all your eggs in 1 basket
05-09-2018 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sungar78
This is just crazy that they wouldn't take this seriously. In the interest of getting help from the community maybe you could post the email that you sent Global, we might be able to improve upon/organize your points and get you some help.
I filled out a ticket here it is..i can't upload screen shots here i dont think i have permission yet..As you can see the response i got still was way left field!

sng 202472
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11 days ago
Please check this sng for collusion and or bot play very strange. obvious none the less!

      
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