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07-08-2021 , 10:09 AM
6/10 in 2 weeks, about a $50 haul last night. Again, maybe covering my cash losses in 1500 hands lol.
07-08-2021 , 02:02 PM
I disabled my Sharkscope long ago and cannot seem to enable it again, but has anyone noticed whether or not they pad your Sharkscope stats lol
07-08-2021 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lyons
I believe each one paid out 50% of entrants, so 1/30 players went 0/5 alas.
With 8/9 of all players eliminated on the first hand how is finishing position determined?
07-08-2021 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HmmClick
I disabled my Sharkscope long ago and cannot seem to enable it again, but has anyone noticed whether or not they pad your Sharkscope stats lol
It does pad them. As a freeroll of course so no penalty for not cashing.
07-09-2021 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by David Lyons
For those who already do it, it's a loyalty reward.
For those who don't, it's a promotional reward.

Chance of further ring promotions this year: high.
Any hints as to what those might be??
07-09-2021 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lyons
For those who already do it, it's a loyalty reward.
For those who don't, it's a promotional reward.

Chance of further ring promotions this year: high.
I like this much much more than some sort of grinder leaderboard scenario.

Play some hands, get a promo that does not even require you to sit through some micro-tournament. Easy peasy.

A grinder leaderboard would be a bad bad idea, GP recreational customers do not deserve to be tossed into a leaderboard meat grinder.
07-09-2021 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by robert_utk
I like this much much more than some sort of grinder leaderboard scenario.

Play some hands, get a promo that does not even require you to sit through some micro-tournament. Easy peasy.

A grinder leaderboard would be a bad bad idea, GP recreational customers do not deserve to be tossed into a leaderboard meat grinder.
+1
Even if I managed to get on a leader board, I would be up against the best players on the site.

The good players are currently getting plenty of love from us donkeys. Donkeys need love too!
07-09-2021 , 06:40 PM
I still think a bad beat jackpot would be ideal. I’m not sure how many sites have one still but back in the day they attracted recreational players near and far. Many go to Brick and mortar casinos just to try and hit the BBJ.
07-10-2021 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by archosaurs
I still think a bad beat jackpot would be ideal. I’m not sure how many sites have one still but back in the day they attracted recreational players near and far. Many go to Brick and mortar casinos just to try and hit the BBJ.
Years ago, when Limit Holdem was King, every time the Bad Beat Jackpot got high, our poker room was packed with players that weren't certain a full house beat a flush.

It would be a really good Facebook ad material, OMG! Come play our cash games! the Jackpot is Really big!

Last edited by steamboatin; 07-10-2021 at 04:15 AM. Reason: thought of something to add
07-10-2021 , 11:11 AM
For the jackpot to be big enough for advertising, the site would have to charge extra rake that goes into the jackpot. With such a small base of players, this would risk scaring off players that think the rake is already high enough.

The Chumba Casino should be attractive enough for gamblers who want to win a lottery, imo. I would cross promote the casino from the poker and vice versa, giving promo pulls on the slots to poker players, while giving promo tourney freebies to casino players.
07-10-2021 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by robert_utk
For the jackpot to be big enough for advertising, the site would have to charge extra rake that goes into the jackpot. With such a small base of players, this would risk scaring off players that think the rake is already high enough.
Don't really agree this is a concern. First, I believe they could fund the jackpot from existing rake without any increases, just take .25 or .50 from the rake in any pot raked over X amount. This seems like the course to take for cash game promotions. They could start by seeding the jackpot with SC500 or what not, and go from there growing it with existing rake. Given the shovefest promotion running now this is certainly within their budget.

Regardless, the notion that BBJ rake (like happens in a casino) will scare players away is just false, mostly. The only players it scares off are short sighted regs. A jackpot drop never scares away fish, most of whom give little thought to rake as long as it's not outrageous. Regs and mores savvy players are aware of the effect of the extra drop and for sure will complain/not love it... but should also recognize that both traffic and fishiness of traffic increase with a nice BBJ running. And as the regs play more volume on average, they will have their fair share of hitting a payout from the BBJ while enjoying more robust and adventurous player pools in the process.
07-10-2021 , 04:01 PM
It would grow pretty quickly with just a few cents per hand.

A two tiered BBJ is a good promotion, make a mini BBJ that pays $50 or $100 when quad deuces or better lose and make the major like quad Jacks beat with both hole cards having to play or require pocket j's or higher pair in the loser's hand.

PLO would probably need quad A's to lose, or something similar.

I have always been a fan of BBJ's because I knew I was going to win more from the people drawing thin, than I would ever pay in the extra drop.

Last edited by steamboatin; 07-10-2021 at 04:03 PM. Reason: added a final thought.
07-10-2021 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by steamboatin
It would grow pretty quickly with just a few cents per hand.

A two tiered BBJ is a good promotion, make a mini BBJ that pays $50 or $100 when quad deuces or better lose and make the major like quad Jacks beat with both hole cards having to play or require pocket j's or higher pair in the loser's hand.

PLO would probably need quad A's to lose, or something similar.

I have always been a fan of BBJ's because I knew I was going to win more from the people drawing thin, than I would ever pay in the extra drop.
Yes, please put a bad beat jackpot. Everybody loves playing with a chance to hit big! Personally, I would be much more inclined to play often and I know many, many others would as well.
07-10-2021 , 09:46 PM
I could be wrong, of course, and any jackpot funded from existing rake is obviously fine by me.
07-11-2021 , 11:55 AM
We have discussed a few variants of BBJ / HHJ. Site funded, drop funded, progressive, non-progressive, linked progressive, etc. The main thing we want to ensure is we don't split liquidity but make the headline number(s) interesting. No immediate plans, but ring game promotions in general are a hot topic and the response to "Ring Dash" has given us some interesting data.
07-11-2021 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by robert_utk
I could be wrong, of course, and any jackpot funded from existing rake is obviously fine by me.
That will never happen unless its a small one. The way it works elsewhere is the extra rake is the money that goes into the jackpot making grow until it gets hit. Except the house keeps about 10% of it. They way I see it its a scam.
07-11-2021 , 07:33 PM
You could consider an "Aces Cracked" promotion for the slow times of day or offer it at tables other than micros to encourage players to play a little higher.
07-12-2021 , 11:19 AM
Just wanted to say that I loved the ring game promotion, would do that again everytime
07-12-2021 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lyons
ring game promotions in general are a hot topic and the response to "Ring Dash" has given us some interesting data.
Ring Dash isn't sexy but I've been completely content with it. If you guys see the numbers working please keep it up!
07-12-2021 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by britdevine
Just wanted to say that I loved the ring game promotion, would do that again everytime
+1
07-17-2021 , 05:16 PM
Hey so uh, 20bb, those were some good times for everyone.. BRING IT BACK.
07-18-2021 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TakeNotesPlease
Hey so uh, 20bb, those were some good times for everyone.. BRING IT BACK.
yes
07-21-2021 , 03:59 PM
no 20bb tables please. Bad idea
07-21-2021 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Fulzgold
no 20bb tables please. Bad idea
There's times on global for hours where literally NOTHING PLO/NLH 2/5+ is running. Now why would this be a bad idea? Because you're not good at it & it might jeopardize your ability to play professionally?
07-22-2021 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TakeNotesPlease
There's times on global for hours where literally NOTHING PLO/NLH 2/5+ is running. Now why would this be a bad idea? Because you're not good at it & it might jeopardize your ability to play professionally?
It's potentially bad for some because it seems to be very attractive to the recs, because it's an easier game with a smaller decision tree and they can't be exploited for as much by strong players, and if a significant portion of the recs switch to 20BB the 100BB games suffer or potentially die.

Not sure which is better rake wise for Global, I would guess 100BB but if the 20BB games are really shovefests then maybe that.

Seems Global would lean towards 20BB games given they are primarily geared towards recs.

      
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