Site is on the rather slow side, only reason 2k normally runs is reg battling (that's fine, I enjoy doing my fair share), but I don't see why both options can't exist as it brought SO many recreational players to play that have not played since.

I'd prefer a like 10/20 20bb cap table or something, and then a 150bb run it twice table like BoL mix, to keep it separated.

The 150bb games can get very juicy, and 20bb is ok sometimes, but Id rather not login and sit facing 5 20bb stacks.

We've had a while with the 10/20 structures as is, and the team are reviewing how they've performed and considering changes. It's all about balancing an authentic poker experience, providing something players want to play, and ... as a distant third ... providing something that can be commercially viable for Global Poker.

The feedback above is welcome.

Thanks David. I strongly agree that 20bb buy in would bring a lot more action to cash tables.

Also strongly agree with this. The games regularly had players I have not seen since they were taken away.

To clarify, I just want you guys to bring back the tables specifically designed for 20bb like you guys used to have until you removed them. I don't see how it could hurt the site to have both options, whatever tables are used more would prove to be the popular option.

100% agree with this. Lots more players used to play those 20bb games. But dont play at all since it disappeared. However, I would recommend making it 30bb games instead. Gives more room for skill, play, etc. Also maybe make it 20bb-50bb games like Pokerstars had before. So people can still buy in for 20bb but also so there's alot more room for postflop play if someone wants to buyin deeper.

+1

Don't think it should have to be one or the other. Why not just have both? 10/20 20BB definitely added something to the site.

+1 to bringing back the 20bb 4-8 and T-20. Don’t see why we can’t have both the 20 bb game and the 100bb game at the same time

Yes, I'm 100% for the 20bb tables too! I'd definitely fire some bullets at the 10/20, and don't think it would be a huge drain on the eco-system.

Thought you meant short-buying across all tables at first, my bad. The 150bb was just an idea for all stakes, but the 20bb tables should be a higher priority, imo.

think it encourages the sng players to play cash in the sense that the sizes and decisions correlate
at the lower lvls it was full on hit n run lol.... fun tho and seemed like the stack size induced action

Please bring back 20bb 4/8 and 10/20. I loved trying to spin up a stack. It was the most fun poker experience on the internet for me.

The people have spoken!

I don't understand the race to the bottom posted by regs in threads like this. The games are fine unless you need to play high stakes in which case study harder and play tougher games, there is always someone ready to play HU up to 10/20 during the day and evening stop being so selective if you want certain stakes to run.

If you need to play high stakes LIVE is better as well as sites with higher liquidity. Lobbying by serious players who want to be winners at the bigger stakes where they are no longer is not in the best interest of fun players nor GP.

These games will definitely hurt 40-100BB games. I think I would be a big recipient of this buy-in structure but I know that the losing/breakeven players will play bigger average stakes and go on much bigger downswings ultimately leading to the extinction of more of the losing players that are crucial for getting games up and and running in the short term and for GPs longevity in the long run.

Please don't. If you want to play 20bb poker go play donkaments.

Here's a novel idea: if there's 20bb poker, and you don't want to play 20bb poker, then don't play 20bb poker.

I don't understand?? so you're saying if they bring back 20bb poker I have to play it? This seems bad.

Let's try again.

If 20bb poker is added back, and 100bb poker is still available, you don't have to play 20bb if you don't want to. Let others do what they want while you do what you want.

I still don't get it. Lets just play 100bb and have fun.

I'm sorry you're having so much trouble with this. Some of us can play 20bb and have fun and you can play 100bb and have fun.

I’m playing less these days but loved having the 20bb option when it was available. To be clear I’m a 100bb player, but the 20bb games are fun and offer a different experience for both regs and recs. Would be great to bring them back as a complementary offering to the 100bb games.

There's a certain group of people on 2+2 that cannot or will not adapt to different game types, and rather than just playing the game type that is offered to them, will complain about others to try to force everyone to play their type of game. We saw exactly the same thing when Stars' main cash games were 20-100bb, and rather than playing the 100bb+ games where people cannot buy in short, they would just whine continually about people buying in short.

LOL @ people not wanting more options especially options that brought more recreational players. You aren't FORCED to play anything. Some of these guys want to play 9max cash 100bb deep and nut pedal for the rest of their lives and luckily that option will always be available!

So you think a rec, playing an open sitting 10/20 pro heads up will lose their money slower than at a 20bb table?

Also, last time I checked, the nearest live poker game to me is several hours away, in a plane.

One of the reasons short stacking ran out of fashion is because the variance is much higher and against opponents who understand how to adjust the winrate per hand is lowered.

Losing players will experience bigger swings especially if they look at $200 at 1/2 the same as $160 at 4/8 or $500 at 2.5/5 the same as $400 at 10/20. In both examples the deeper game will protect the player with a limited bankroll much more even if they are very likely to lose all their money regardless of what stake they play.

Players who adjust better to 20BB will have almost no incentive to play in any game without a big losing player because rake is relatively higher, the skill edge has diminished, and because there are 100BB options. The games are not actually better for the ecosystem, they just appear to be because no smart player would ever sit HU unless there was a very bad player seated at 20BB cap so when the game runs it is better.

By the same logic we should make a 10BB cap if 20BB games are not soft enough for a subset of the 20BB regs and a 5BB cap if 10BB caps are not soft enough for 10BB regs and etc...