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01-31-2020 , 10:22 PM
Here's a better idea:

Swallow the hard pill of realizing that online poker in the United States is D.E.A.D.

You log on, sit down at a table with a bunch of TAGs, pass each others' money around clockwise, and spend 1-2 hours at a fruitless circle jerk only to barely break even all whilst paying off the ****ing rake.

Sound familiar?

Unless you're content with playing in games that are complete TAGfests where you can barely keep up with the rake, you're better off moving to Florida or Vegas and playing in live environments.
01-31-2020 , 11:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven of Clubs
Here's a better idea:

Swallow the hard pill of realizing that online poker in the United States is D.E.A.D.

You log on, sit down at a table with a bunch of TAGs, pass each others' money around clockwise, and spend 1-2 hours at a fruitless circle jerk only to barely break even all whilst paying off the ****ing rake.

Sound familiar?

Unless you're content with playing in games that are complete TAGfests where you can barely keep up with the rake, you're better off moving to Florida or Vegas and playing in live environments.

Hey Steven. I see you're a bit salty. Personally I play SnG's and MTT's, but I can definitely relate to what you're saying. I hope that the US government progresses in regard to allowing us (legally) to do what we want to do with our money. I'm glad that Global found some sort of loophole around our dis-freedoms. I hope your day gets better!
02-01-2020 , 01:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven of Clubs
Here's a better idea:



Swallow the hard pill of realizing that online poker in the United States is D.E.A.D.



You log on, sit down at a table with a bunch of TAGs, pass each others' money around clockwise, and spend 1-2 hours at a fruitless circle jerk only to barely break even all whilst paying off the ****ing rake.



Sound familiar?



Unless you're content with playing in games that are complete TAGfests where you can barely keep up with the rake, you're better off moving to Florida or Vegas and playing in live environments.
Global $3.30 SNG quite beatable.

If after study and practice you can't best these games, I suggest finding a new hobby.
02-02-2020 , 04:42 PM
The only time I saw something that made me go "what the ****?" was a player instant folding a hand to a raise then insta-logging out of MULTIPLE tables at once. Like, you can't leave tables that fast if you're pressing the leave button, and if you rage smash your computer you'll see be sitting in and what not. So yeah probably there's some bots, will Global care? I mean, I think we know the answer to that.
02-02-2020 , 09:35 PM
To me, that sounds more like his wife unplugged his router while she was vacuuming, or any of a million things that could make you lose your internet connection, Monkey1299.
02-03-2020 , 01:14 AM
If you lose your connection you just time out, you don't automatically leave the table. This was leaving multiple tables simultaneously. It was weird as **** and nothing I've seen before/since.
02-03-2020 , 02:19 AM
What happens if the poker client is closed? Or your computer is shut down?
02-03-2020 , 04:23 AM
Hello,

Please note that we do not tolerate automated players/bots or any sort of unfair advantage in our Games and we do have the ability to detect and remove automated players or bots. That said, we always welcome feedback from our players and investigate any concerns raised.

We also take allegations of cheating very seriously. While we do not tolerate cheating, we do not presume guilt, and therefore, we do not rely on assumptions or circumstantial evidence. The worst thing we could do is to accuse someone of cheating when they were not. Instead, we use verifiable data sources which are then scientifically interpreted in the context of poker, which is a generalized way of describing various tools we have in place to flag or confirm malicious behavior without giving away our methods. Because of this, we will always have a much more complete picture than any player on the site, regardless of their experience - we simply have more data points that we can evaluate. Therefore, we have created a category specifically dedicated for such concerns to be raised privately in our Zendesk Help Center which will immediately create a ticket to our Game Integrity Team to review:

https://globalpoker.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

Some explanation:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trebekistan

Anyway, tonight I played two SnG's and ended up getting heads up in both of them. Both opponents were different people, but they were playing very similarly; they'd make their decision preflop instantaneously. There's no way that a human could process their cards and fold/call/raise that quickly... I'm talking about a tenth of a second.
We would appreciate if you could submit a new Game Integrity request specifying the suspects so we can investigate your concerns. Please note that the connection speed may affect animations presented to you and additionally on Global Poker tables players have an ability to preselect future actions (such as "Fold", "Call Any", etc.). In such cases, a preselected action is instantly performed on the next opportunity to act.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
What happens if the poker client is closed? Or your computer is shut down?
If a player disconnects for any of the above reasons, the time bank activates during current or the following hand and the disconnected player is sat out once it expires.

We appreciate the opportunity to address your concerns. If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to contact us using the link above.

Regards,
Global Poker Game Integrity Team
02-03-2020 , 09:11 AM
Thanks Kimbr!
02-03-2020 , 04:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven of Clubs
Here's a better idea:

Swallow the hard pill of realizing that online poker in the United States is D.E.A.D.

You log on, sit down at a table with a bunch of TAGs, pass each others' money around clockwise, and spend 1-2 hours at a fruitless circle jerk only to barely break even all whilst paying off the ****ing rake.

Sound familiar?

Unless you're content with playing in games that are complete TAGfests where you can barely keep up with the rake, you're better off moving to Florida or Vegas and playing in live environments.

Bud if you're not absolutely crushing low stakes games on Global you have serious problems and I PROMISE you will not be beating any Florida live games.
02-03-2020 , 08:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GlobalPokerCSKimbr
Hello,

Please note that we do not tolerate automated players/bots or any sort of unfair advantage in our Games and we do have the ability to detect and remove automated players or bots. That said, we always welcome feedback from our players and investigate any concerns raised.

We also take allegations of cheating very seriously. While we do not tolerate cheating, we do not presume guilt, and therefore, we do not rely on assumptions or circumstantial evidence. The worst thing we could do is to accuse someone of cheating when they were not. Instead, we use verifiable data sources which are then scientifically interpreted in the context of poker, which is a generalized way of describing various tools we have in place to flag or confirm malicious behavior without giving away our methods. Because of this, we will always have a much more complete picture than any player on the site, regardless of their experience - we simply have more data points that we can evaluate. Therefore, we have created a category specifically dedicated for such concerns to be raised privately in our Zendesk Help Center which will immediately create a ticket to our Game Integrity Team to review:

https://globalpoker.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

Some explanation:



We would appreciate if you could submit a new Game Integrity request specifying the suspects so we can investigate your concerns. Please note that the connection speed may affect animations presented to you and additionally on Global Poker tables players have an ability to preselect future actions (such as "Fold", "Call Any", etc.). In such cases, a preselected action is instantly performed on the next opportunity to act.



If a player disconnects for any of the above reasons, the time bank activates during current or the following hand and the disconnected player is sat out once it expires.

We appreciate the opportunity to address your concerns. If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to contact us using the link above.

Regards,
Global Poker Game Integrity Team
LOWER THE RAKE
02-03-2020 , 08:59 PM
^^This
02-03-2020 , 09:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrindforDimes
Bud if you're not absolutely crushing low stakes games on Global you have serious problems and I PROMISE you will not be beating any Florida live games.
This, too!
08-29-2020 , 07:02 PM
One thing that might cause the appearance of them acting instantaneously on the flop would be if OP had an ongoing internet / wi-fi lag. Probably most have noticed when first connecting or if there is a short lag, the tables update really fast so it looks like a flurry of checking/calling/folding/betting/raising, when in fact the account didn't really happen that fast, they were just buffered for the person who was lagging.
08-30-2020 , 12:49 AM
I've occasionally thought there were some, but they were easily identifiable by timing tells, min bets/raises, etc. But that doesn't happen often and I could be wrong. It's far from infested like other sites.

On the other item, when you purchase Gold Coins you receive Sweeps Coins as a bonus. The GC side is play money for fun and to qualify for certain games. The SC side you can redeem SC won for cash prizes and gift cards.
08-31-2020 , 05:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbabie314
never played on Global Poker as for i do not really understand the whole swepstakes coins thing but is there a bot problem on there? I was thinking about trying out the site, but if people are stating there are issues then maybe i should stay away?
It really isn't that confusing. Youll use your SC to pay/play tournaments or sit in and go's or cash games as it functions as redeemable 1sc for 1$ currency. The site is legit, the site pays promptly, please disregard trash conspiracy threads you read on 2 + 2, as well as the trash that pops up when you Google global poker.
08-31-2020 , 11:20 AM
Compared to ACR And Ignition, for PLO cash anyway, I feel the most comfortable on Global regarding prevalence of bots. Cash outs are quick and reliable as well.
08-31-2020 , 02:02 PM
BOT SCHMOT... lol There isn't that many BOTs on here and Global typically responds quickly if you report them. Also if you can't beat a BOT you shouldn't be planning on being a winning poker player. BOTs are easy, I got one on a cash game table and destroyed it then reported it to support.
08-31-2020 , 05:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smashsmash
BOT SCHMOT... lol There isn't that many BOTs on here and Global typically responds quickly if you report them. Also if you can't beat a BOT you shouldn't be planning on being a winning poker player. BOTs are easy, I got one on a cash game table and destroyed it then reported it to support.
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08-31-2020 , 09:20 PM
^^^^????
09-01-2020 , 07:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smashsmash
BOT SCHMOT... lol There isn't that many BOTs on here and Global typically responds quickly if you report them. Also if you can't beat a BOT you shouldn't be planning on being a winning poker player. BOTs are easy, I got one on a cash game table and destroyed it then reported it to support.
Says the guy who just opened an account
09-16-2020 , 09:38 AM
Not sure where to put this but I received an email today from a company called *********.com;
Who and how do I report something like this?


Hey guys, we made recent improvements in the Holdem Bot for PPpoker and a couple of specific iPoker sites.

For PPpoker we fixed the bot to automatically resize the window, so we don’t need to use the Autosizer app any more. This makes the setup a lot easier. You still need to rename the bot file and delete the original desktop shortcut (that says holdembot), but other than a 338x600 table size in the app, English language, and 2-color deck that’s it – load a profile and play (try the 6Pack profile in these super soft cash games).

For iPoker we specifically fixed Netbet in France and Red Star in Russia. You guys are good to go, just make sure you follow the other setup instructions in our PDF file including the betting button configurations.

You can download Holdem Bot version 10.6.5 right now at:

https://shankydownload.com/hedownload.htm

Here are some recent customer comments:

"Got the bot today and it's been to 2 final tables already. Just took down my first one. Thank you very much "

"The bot literally cashed 5 first places in SNGs in the last 2 days on Bovada"

"I've made more than the cost of the bot license from freerolls alone”

Here is a customer-submitted screenshot of a 2nd place finish at America's Cardroom for a $910 cash in the $25K Guarantee. He says the bot played the entire event until it got heads up and then he took over and “screwed it up.” He swears if he just let the bot finish it, he would have taken first.




Current Site & Platform Support:

Ignition, Bodog, & Bovada are fully supported and all working great.

The WPN Network (Americas Cardroom, Poker King, Black Chip, True Poker) are now fully re-supported again for cash games, tourneys, and Blitz Poker on their latest software platform.

iPoker support: Most iPoker sites in most countries are currently supported. And that's a lot of sites!

PPpoker is fully-supported for 6-max and 9-max tables and now can multi-table with only one account. Be sure to read the updated Easy Start Guide! (We also can help you with the setup by Teamviewer upon request.)

UPoker is in late beta testing. If you would like to participate in the final beta testing phase please visit our support forum. We hope to assign it a status of "fully supported" very soon.

France: The bot currently works at Betclic.fr in both the French and English language, but should also work on any other iPoker site there now including Netbet

Italy: Eurobet.it, Titanbet.it, Bet365.it, and Betfair.it all now work in both the Italian and English languages, plus the bot should work at all other iPoker sites here now.

Spain: Bet365.es, and Betfair.es are now all working in Spain, plus the bot should work at all other iPoker sites here now.

BetOnline and Sportsbetting.ag are both still supported, but new extra stealth measures are required as they are scanning folders on your PC looking for our bot. Our latest PDF instructions show you the easy tricks required for not getting flagged (and if you do, they only send you a polite warning email).

That's it for now. If you need a license, there's a link on the bot menu for purchasing one, or else feel free to reply to this email if you need special purchasing instructions for Bitcoin, Skrill, or Western Union (which you can quickly send with a credit card online now). Have fun at the tables and we'll see you or your bot at the final table soon.

Sincerely,

Shanky Technologies Team
09-17-2020 , 06:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daryldee1988
Not sure where to put this but I received an email today from a company called *********.com;
Who and how do I report something like this?
UNOPE - United Nations Office of Poker Enforcement.

I mean unfortunately online poker isn't regulated globally so there's no one to stop these people other than the poker sites. The site you found isn't the only one. I've found 3 and two have global poker on their list of supported sites.

They come with free downloads and evaluation periods. Due to variance the evaluation period won't be long enough to determine for sure if its winning. I think many of the profiles that come with these things won't win in the long run and people who don't understand variance try them out, think they are winning, and then buy the full version. But not every profile. And you can design your own profile. With some hand history analysis, you can figure out where a profile is leaking and patch it up.

The only thing you can to is let your poker sites know about them and your concerns. What they need to be doing is downloading these products, running them againsts a test version of their software, and develop methods to detect them.
09-19-2020 , 04:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daryldee1988
Here is a customer-submitted screenshot of a 2nd place finish at America's Cardroom for a $910 cash in the $25K Guarantee. He says the bot played the entire event until it got heads up and then he took over and “screwed it up.” He swears if he just let the bot finish it, he would have taken first.



You did not post the screenshot. I find it hard to believe a 25K trny would only pay $910 for 2nd place.
I know that's not the point of your post but it caught my attention.
04-09-2021 , 10:55 AM
With all this besides, i dont know who is right. But my expirience, i have found out, by 15years of online poker gaming, that bots have decreased the fun of playing, a lot. Also fact that sites dont allow chats most of them anymore.

Chat, with admin help click button, would actually decrease the bot status to near minium.

I have seen the same what was mentioned above, that the thinking on hand is nonhuman, and that always confuses, because you expect it to be human.
Specially on spin type of games, i think i can relate to fast acting bots.

If you cant be sure if your opponent is a person, there is a lot less interrest to play, im more and more, laying my focus out of online poker, because edge against semi machine, semi human field, is much lower. Back in days when i was high stakes reg, and bots were rare. Tho playing right was more rare too, but bots did not really exist in manner they do nowdays.

Me dropping from high stakes was my fault mostly on fact i had severe addiction problems, but when i came back, after i got trough that stuff, the edge is so small nowdays, compared to past.

I used to make maxium of 30k a day best, now i had good 2months, that i made 600e.

So easy to program bot for tight play, and tight is right enough.
Tight is what pro players used to get edge, nobody can play more tight without fatigue then bot.

Im not blaming bots about anything else, then decreasing the gaming expirience.
You can beat a bot, but its much tougher then beating fish.

      
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