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Beware of Multiaccounters--Terrible Security Beware of Multiaccounters--Terrible Security

08-25-2022 , 02:59 AM
The site let a person who was quite obviously multiaccounting (play style changed drastically literally overnight) take probably 150K+ off the site in a matter of a few months, despite multiple reports from multiple regs.

Do not trust them to properly investigate game integrity violations. Any rep reading this is welcome to DM me for details/evidence.

Not that it really matters since the higher-ups seem intent on killing the site anyway.
08-25-2022 , 01:25 PM
I change my play style all the time without multi accounting.

I don't see anything of substance in this post/thread. Without further information, this claim is destined to disappear from our collective memory rather quickly.
08-25-2022 , 01:56 PM
Yeah and my KK got riveered so musta been cheeting and why wont they do anything huh
08-25-2022 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Punkey
I change my play style all the time without multi accounting.

I don't see anything of substance in this post/thread. Without further information, this claim is destined to disappear from our collective memory rather quickly.

Fair. Here's some more info.

The name of the account is Dmoney31. I've played a lot vs him both HU and 6max, and before it became apparent that a different player was operating the account, I played him for a few long sessions HU at 2knl on 4 tables.

Prior to March or so, he was an incredibly spewy bad reg, basically turned into a whale whenever he tilted. His raise frequencies on flops were consistently crazy (>50%), he almost never used overbets, frequently minbet (aka, 1bb into a 30bb pot), did not valuebet thinly, and frequently checked back the river with no SDV combos that should never have gotten to the river in the first place. He played this way for well over a month.

Virtually overnight the account started playing like a very strong reg with sharp sizings across all lines, never spewed, dropped all the ridiculous lines and showdowns mentioned above, and unsurprisingly, became a big winner on the site. While it was somewhat amusing to see some badregs fail to catch on and continue to bumhunt him and lose to him, it was annoying that Global wasn't doing anything about it, especially since they've claimed in other threads to be so proactive about catching multiaccounters/RTA.

Last edited by apjude; 08-25-2022 at 04:14 PM.
08-25-2022 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny9Nine
Yeah and my KK got riveered so musta been cheeting and why wont they do anything huh

Okay, my bad. Carry on.
08-25-2022 , 06:14 PM
Some people play very different sober vs under the influence. Different moods can be a factor, too. Another possibility is this player put in a lot of study and/or got some coaching. It could also be a long game where the player intentionally played one way for a long time to present a profile, while studying their opponents and then flipped the script. Maybe they had a bunch of extra disposable income, but had to change their game on a tighter budget?

If there is something else going on, Global will probably catch it eventually since their security team has a pretty decent track record in my opinion.
08-25-2022 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Punkey
Some people play very different sober vs under the influence. Different moods can be a factor, too. Another possibility is this player put in a lot of study and/or got some coaching. It could also be a long game where the player intentionally played one way for a long time to present a profile, while studying their opponents and then flipped the script. Maybe they had a bunch of extra disposable income, but had to change their game on a tighter budget?

If there is something else going on, Global will probably catch it eventually since their security team has a pretty decent track record in my opinion.
Seems unlikely someone goes from whale to world class in a few months. More likely a top euro pro bought the account and is VPNing.
08-25-2022 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ckrad
Seems unlikely someone goes from whale to world class in a few months. More likely a top euro pro bought the account and is VPNing.
+1
08-29-2022 , 10:12 AM
Technically this would be ghosting, not multiaccounting. Multiaccounting would be one person playing on multiple accounts at once.

I sometimes play mid stakes cash and I believe I have this player marked as a standard reg.


From "prior to March" to the end of August is not "overnight". Maybe its possible that this person has actually legitimately improved over a 5 month span.
08-29-2022 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ledn
Technically this would be ghosting, not multiaccounting. Multiaccounting would be one person playing on multiple accounts at once.

I sometimes play mid stakes cash and I believe I have this player marked as a standard reg.


From "prior to March" to the end of August is not "overnight". Maybe its possible that this person has actually legitimately improved over a 5 month span.

The overnight change occurred fully in March. Since then, the account has been consistently ghosted.
08-29-2022 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ledn
Technically this would be ghosting, not multiaccounting. Multiaccounting would be one person playing on multiple accounts at once.

I sometimes play mid stakes cash and I believe I have this player marked as a standard reg.


From "prior to March" to the end of August is not "overnight". Maybe its possible that this person has actually legitimately improved over a 5 month span.


A weak reg improving in a short span I could get on board with, but a bonafide spewy fish becoming elite borders on impossible these days. Would love to see this addressed further. Very bothersome here considering Global's support/security system is made up entirely of former Stars employees who are the best of the best.
08-29-2022 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by loveskunk
A weak reg improving in a short span I could get on board with, but a bonafide spewy fish becoming elite borders on impossible these days. Would love to see this addressed further. Very bothersome here considering Global's support/security system is made up entirely of former Stars employees who are the best of the best.

Yep. If they actually conduct/conducted a thorough review and decided that nothing was amiss with this account, I think their security is laughable. Obviously I'm not infallible, and others are free to think I'm wrong, but having played 1M+ hands at 1knl+ I don't think I should be dismissed out of hand when I say I think it's clear a high volume account is being ghosted.

And naturally, I can't provide the hardest of evidence, as we can't use HUDs. Hopefully they'll actually see it on their end.
08-30-2022 , 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by apjude
Yep. If they actually conduct/conducted a thorough review and decided that nothing was amiss with this account, I think their security is laughable. Obviously I'm not infallible, and others are free to think I'm wrong, but having played 1M+ hands at 1knl+ I don't think I should be dismissed out of hand when I say I think it's clear a high volume account is being ghosted.

And naturally, I can't provide the hardest of evidence, as we can't use HUDs. Hopefully they'll actually see it on their end.
This is a bit of a stretch but maybe, you got Meta-Gamed. Maybe, they were always good but spewed chips early on to set you up. Players are slow to change their early reads so there is an opportunity to exploit the player pool.
08-30-2022 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by steamboatin
This is a bit of a stretch but maybe, you got Meta-Gamed. Maybe, they were always good but spewed chips early on to set you up. Players are slow to change their early reads so there is an opportunity to exploit the player pool.

No. This is a guy who has played 1m+ hands of high stakes poker, I think he knows what's up.

Anyone with a brain would catch on within a handful of orbits.
09-04-2022 , 11:13 PM
He just played laggy spazzy at first to reel you in. I used to do it pre black friday on full tilt and poker stars. Play spazzy lag style and once I know they are reeled in I would bust their brs. I put a lot of decent regs into retirement from that strategy back in the day. They were nitty bum hunters that needed to be taught a lesson on not targeting weak players. It sounds like that is what you are doing and not to happy he is actually a good player that you can no longer take advantage of. Phil Ivey did it to isildur and galfond beat them out of a total of 6m. Crushed isildur for 4m hu holdem and galfond out of 2m in headsup plo. It is part of poker to switch gears once we figure our opponent out. Doesn't mean using rta or someone else is playing. Dmoney31 never been accused of being a rta player btw. So thats a bit of stretch he would use that when he can splash money around at times.

Last edited by iburydoscocaroaches; 09-04-2022 at 11:19 PM.
09-08-2022 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
I put a lot of decent regs into retirement
lol
09-12-2022 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
He just played laggy spazzy at first to reel you in. I used to do it pre black friday on full tilt and poker stars. Play spazzy lag style and once I know they are reeled in I would bust their brs. I put a lot of decent regs into retirement from that strategy back in the day. They were nitty bum hunters that needed to be taught a lesson on not targeting weak players. It sounds like that is what you are doing and not to happy he is actually a good player that you can no longer take advantage of. Phil Ivey did it to isildur and galfond beat them out of a total of 6m. Crushed isildur for 4m hu holdem and galfond out of 2m in headsup plo. It is part of poker to switch gears once we figure our opponent out. Doesn't mean using rta or someone else is playing. Dmoney31 never been accused of being a rta player btw. So thats a bit of stretch he would use that when he can splash money around at times.
Thank god the 20nl grinder put his piece in.

Yes, the dmoney account definitely has something shady going on with it and always has. Likely a euro VPN'er as they type broken english in chat.
10-02-2022 , 12:29 PM
I'm seeing what I believe is multiaccounting in PLO, this post is not related to a loss or any one experience, i love global and im happy with my wr

I've been playing on the site around four years now and im not comfortable sitting with many account pairs/trios anymore. Like some of you I got cheated on acr and was able to ID many bad accounts before the site confirmed and refunded, which made me trust my judgment a little more

I've never questioned an rng or blamed downswings on cheating, but im not as comfortable on GP at the moment
03-28-2023 , 12:51 AM
Why don’t u guys with accusations name the players in question without that what can anyone really do to help?
06-02-2023 , 02:01 PM
what ever ended up happening with this account? does he still continue to play? i know its been a while, i was just curious if this actually got reconciled.
06-09-2023 , 04:53 PM
yeah that account is still active, he plays only 2knl sporadically. 2knl only runs sporadically

      
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