Other sites restrict tables with 2 or less players where one sits out/1 player sitting at a table to one table.

If two or more such tables are open, one gets closed after 30 seconds.

This is to stop excessive bumhunting where people sit at like 5 tables and wait for the fish to come join one. it increases the probability that the fish joins their table. It has become an issue with a couple players doing this on global.

Any plans to put something like this into place?

Agreed!

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I do this but not as a bum hunting technique. I do it to start games and I immediately sit out unless I am POSITIVE the players wont hit and run. 95% of players that will sit heads up will win a small amount and run so it's better to sit out until a 3rd player comes.

Huge +1. Though given that they haven't fixed some very minor bugs, i think there's almost no shot that this will happen. Though it's a great idea and much needed.

Hit and runs don't have any effect on winrate. If you have a positive winrate vs a player, you have that expectation for every hand that you play, regardless of them leaving after winning. Being annoyed at getting HNR is really just a mental hurdle to get over (I know because i used to be the worst at this). It's just being results oriented in a different way. So if you think you're a favorite vs a player, don't sit out for fear of being HNR.

Now, sitting out due to the insanely high hu rake is a perfectly reasonable thing to do if you if you're just trying to get a 6m table started. However at 10/20 you have guys like obvocado , theoldserpent, basedchad, ermergedpoker and others i'm forgetting who stay seated (but sit out) in 6m games where there isn't a rec. Lately obvocado has been the worst offender where he'll open up 3-5 empy tables and sit with 30bb at each, but won't play in games that are actually running. (without a rec). He's not trying to get a 6m game started; he's trying to bumhunt. It's also problematic when a bunch of people are targeting one player to the point where they'll all join every open table at 10/20 (sometimes even taking the last seat at a table) and sit out at all of them without playing a hand, so that the player they are chasing can't sit at a table where they aren't seated.

In light of the last bit, what if we use this thread to call people out for this sort of behavior so that Global can potentially take action vs these repeat offenders? I think there's more potential in that happening than global being able to implement any sort of sophisticated measures that are built into the software.

I want to second this line of reasoning. A decade ago when I was a HUHU specialist, I knew guys who had the same mentality... they they freaked out when some fish HNR them.

I had no such qualms. It was all volume to me. Fact of the matter is, if a fish does it once, he will almost certainly try again at a later date. Which just means more volume with the fish. Which is exactly what you want.

Play the long game. Care not about the hit and run. Take the EV and smile.

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It's fine to start one game at a time. If you start more than one there is no reason to do it except to corner the fish to your tables. it's bum hunting, and thats why stars fixed this a long time ago

So you only make sure to sit regs u know wont the leave the table?

I've been curious about the etiquette here too, mostly to ensure that I am not personally doing anything wrong. I often will start games (but never more than one at a time) but will leave after the table fills to 6 if its too tough (as a weaker reg). From my perspective this is reasonably beneficial for all parties involved because fish are more willing to sit me but not sure- would definitely want someone to let me know if I was breaching etiquette.

Some other behaviors that I've witnessed that I personally think are inappropriate are constantly seat changing when a player or two switches out, asking other regs to leave when playing a fish HU, as well as some of the aforementioned ones.

Personally I feel that it's not too bad right now except for a few offenders (well not sure about T/20 I rarely play that high), but does feel like it's getting worse. I agree with OP and really hope we don't have to resort to playing cold war games where the lobby will show a fkton of open tables with 1 reg sitting at each of them.

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+1. Although I am not playing at the stakes where these issues are happening, its for sure a bad thing to be happening to the Eco-system as a whole. Imagine how it looks to those aspiring players who want to grind their way up the stakes?

I also agree, I don't know that anything will be done, but it also seems like a good idea to ask all the same.

Thank you for the coaching lesson. But..

Exploitative strategies are built from a meta-game and when players hnr it removes much opportunity for that. And fun players like myself like playing exploitative styles.

This isn't pokerstars. Actually its worlds away from it.

"So when did you stop beating your wife?" Is all I read.

Actually, the reason I start 12 empty tables is to actually play at them. I sit out til it gets 3-handed and then play on EVER SINGLE TABLE. It gives a good mix of where players are sitting and it is nice to not have the same players in the same position on every table. A lot of it is to break up the monotony of playing with the same players are several tables.

I get your point, not saying I dont. But I dont necessarily agree with it all. I like the option to start a bunch of games and not have to open one at a time. There is a lot of reasons why I think it's better FOR ME.

If you see an edge in it and it is within the rules then you should be doing it.

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clearly this hasnt been implemented because obvocado is still doing this **** all day.

Obvo actually normally is the reason games get started how is he abusing anything in any way? At least he doesn't just bum hunt. I don't even like the guy but what he does is good for starting games? Btw who are you?

"Can you guys stop people from generating rake for the site?"

I am sure Global will jump right on this.

not sure what you are watching, games dont run without a complete drooler pretty much at all now.

why would they with that rake

100% agree.