Except, he wasn't banned for winning too much.

And Bobo is right, as a business they have a right to refuse service to any individual if they so choose.

Obviously the notion to ban all winning players is flawed at it's core. If you banned all the big winners, the next tier would replace them as the new biggest winners, then you ban them and the next group below them will win more. You can't actually remove all winners, as in doing so you create a new set of big winners automatically.

First of all, you've come to a conclusion I haven't - that he was banned for being a winning player. We have no idea why he was banned.

Secondly, I made no judgement as to whether it was OK for them to ban him. I'm sure there are a variety of opinions on this. I'm just pointing out that they have the legal right to do so, whether it was because he's a winning player, or they think he's an *******, or they think he's a fraud risk, or the customer service rep was having a bad day, or they drew his name out of a hat. And as for banning winning players, a number of sites have at some point done a great deal of this, whether we think it's OK or not.

But the larger point was he was being ridiculous in comparing his situation to OP's, since they have nothing in common, and everyone's tired of him prattling on about it in different threads. His hot take was completely unneeded in this thread, and I have to admit I feel a little bit bad for helping him further derail this thread to make it about him. If OP ever comes back, I'll rectify the derail by moving these most recent posts to BeHumble!'s thread.

Ok agreed but if you can ban people with a certain bb/100 at x stake and no matter how much the next tier wins odds are they will not be winning at the same rate as the top reg who was banned. This improves bottom line for the site. And Stars is trying to starve/kill winning players look at their new poker formats with extremely high rake.

As for Behumble i have no idea but i have heard from multiple people in threads that is why he was banned. You have a right to refuse service to an individual but if they start banning say the winningest 5/10 players tomorrow then it absolutely becomes discriminatory.

Come on brah. He is the one who is and was perpetuating that story to further his own cause, even though he's admitted they did not say this to him. He tried to make it about banning winning players to get leverage to be allowed back. Multiple people in threads on 2+2 don't know jack, only Global actually knows and they won't discuss his case publicly.

The truth is none of us know the precise reason(s) his business is no longer welcomed. He did have a heated dispute with them regarding his cash out, which he made very public and created a lot of anger towards Global's handling of the situation. Even though it was resolved in the end it's quite possible they just decided he's too much of a PITA to continue doing business with.

I have read several sources that are generally reliable that Carbon has banned many winning players whose only "offence" was being winning players.

This is true

Theres only 7500 ways to send money now days, chip dumping to repay a samll debt is the most idiotic thing Ive ever heard.

I've heard 7500 things more idiotic than chip dumping to pay a small debt.

For that matter, I've probably myself said/done 7500 things more idiotic than that.

must have had a good outcome on this for slappy. ive seen him at the tables yesterday. goot to know that global is willing to give players 2nd chances on their first offense, unless the offense is unforivable i.e bots, colusion rings and such

If BeHumble was winning an absurd amount of money and withdrawing the money right away constantly, then there should at least be a warning for him not to do that again instead of just straight banning him.

Uh, well you are wrong about that... both paypal and global held over 6 figures for half a year of mine....

I agree this is the most likely case, they didn't like how I handled being owed money for a long time, I was at my wits end though. Eventually they paid me and made it right, I just don't see why they won't let me play... Guess I pissed management off good, wish they could just see my side of things though. I put more hands in than anyone on plo/nl and would start so many games, I think if I wasn't such a huge winner my case would be looked at a bit more is all I'm saying. You think if I was losing 500k in 2 months instead of winning 500k in 2 months they'd not let me back on?

I wanted to do a lot for global, I was going to start streaming etc...

I don't know, but I think you'd get lots of invites to private games LOL.

fwiw, I understood your frustration with the cash out problem and the anxiety you must have had with that big a number being frozen in limbo for so long. Totally legit imo.

They have decided to move on for whatever reason, you should to. Obviously you're capable of making good money at poker in any venue live or online. Maybe one day they'll let you come back to Global, but if part of the reason your business isn't welcome is the PITA view, continuing to harp on it in this forum can't be helping that opinion to change.

Wrong.

Players withdrawing momey does NOT affect the bottom line of the site. The only thing that hurts their bottom line is players who stop playing, and therefore stop paying rake. Who pays the most rake? Winning players!

Do you not understand how poker sites make money? Banning their biggest winners (biggest rake payers) would lose them money.

in terms of bottom line, winning players dont actually pay rake. *technically* they do, but their rake is funded by losing players. so in reality, losing players are paying the rake for the winning players and the losing players. if there are fewer losing players then there is less action overall and the site loses rake.

most of us play on global because we can profit more on global than any other site.

It's a bit harsh but these are the rules. They have this rule so you don't scam on another account, and cash out on another, then pretend like you had nothing to do with the scam, except play poker.

They have been doing this for half a decade now. It does not take big wins to get banned either. I have personally talked to guys who were banned and their lifetime winnings were UNDER $1,000 USD.

Carbon went downhill when Jazette took control of Merge Gaming Network.

It is a damned shame. They were the number 1 offshore poker site for a while. The games were fantastic quality. The software was the best (still is if it wasn't handicapped by their zero game selection policies).

Oh well. Stay away from Carbon Poker. They're currently AIDS.

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Bovada had moment where they clamped down on big players for whatever reason.

He is trying to look stupid to get sympathy.