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06-19-2018 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MikePence
This is funny. Imagine freaking out on 2 plus 2 and then the site saying, okay, do your thing. Earlier when I looked, he finished 5-9 in every sng but it was a very small sample size. I am going to grind these sng the next 6 days looking for him for ****s. will report what I see if anything worth seeing
He lost 6 games in a row in SnGs! He must have had been a bot, go ahead and look for him in SnGs, let him take your money.
06-19-2018 , 08:45 PM
First off, I don’t know TOH and have never played with him. So, I have no dog in this fight. Many in this thread have focused on how many tables he plays at once. I realized long ago that there are some sick dudes (rainkhan, jorj etc) out there that can multitable way more than I ever thought possible. But I think the other (possibly more important) piece to the puzzle is how much the player is playing.

So I took his data for June up until his ban, 16.75 days. It's a small sampling but all I cared to deal with. I ignored any small breaks of less than 1.5 hours to make it easier to compile. So his actual playing time may be a touch less than shown. I estimated 30 minutes for his sessions to begin before the end of his first SNG result.

And again, I have no idea if this is possible, impossible, piece of cake or what for the megagrinders. I couldn’t do it, but that’s irrelevant. So with that, here’s what I found. Does it help or hurt his case? I have no clue. I'll let the court of public opinion have at it. Top to bottom from 6/17 to 6/1.

I seem to have 10 extra hours somewhere (412 instead of 402) but I’ve already wasted enough time on this one, so this will have to be close enough.
06-19-2018 , 08:59 PM
^Are those kind of volume metrics attainable over months at a time? Sure, if its just some kid who clearly doesnt have a job, doesnt go to school, has no social life, and just wants to print money.

I mean he must literally be sleeping at his computer, waking up, grinding SNGs, ordering delivery for food, falling asleep at his computer, and doing it all over again day after day after day after day. While also getting 4-6hrs of sleep a day. $100/day aint worth that **** if you ask me.

Are those of volume metrics also high enough to warrant someone looking into him? Absolutely.

Again I'd like to point out that TOH has spent today berating more people that call him a bot or mention the amount of tables he plays at a time, but has continued to skirt any comments about him using illegal software while he plays.
06-19-2018 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeSchmo
First off, I don’t know TOH and have never played with him. So, I have no dog in this fight. Many in this thread have focused on how many tables he plays at once. I realized long ago that there are some sick dudes (rainkhan, jorj etc) out there that can multitable way more than I ever thought possible. But I think the other (possibly more important) piece to the puzzle is how much the player is playing.

So I took his data for June up until his ban, 16.75 days. It's a small sampling but all I cared to deal with. I ignored any small breaks of less than 1.5 hours to make it easier to compile. So his actual playing time may be a touch less than shown. I estimated 30 minutes for his sessions to begin before the end of his first SNG result.

And again, I have no idea if this is possible, impossible, piece of cake or what for the megagrinders. I couldn’t do it, but that’s irrelevant. So with that, here’s what I found. Does it help or hurt his case? I have no clue. I'll let the court of public opinion have at it. Top to bottom from 6/17 to 6/1.

I seem to have 10 extra hours somewhere (412 instead of 402) but I’ve already wasted enough time on this one, so this will have to be close enough.
Wow! I suspected this. 250 hours in 17 days.

Not possible at all. Played full time for almost a decade and was able to book some sick hours some months but never broke 250 in a month. That's with having no life, no wife, no gf, no kids, 1 brd apt on my own, no distractions, make meals when I play, only go to bathroom rarely, sleep very little, lol now I'm depressing everyone...

But that was my highest volume month of all time with regards to hours played. Most months were under 160 cause it takes a ton of mental stamina to mass multitable just 40 hours a week.

Last edited by LETIGRA; 06-19-2018 at 09:21 PM.
06-19-2018 , 09:35 PM
Can Global just permaban this noob and return stolen funds to all of the players that ever sat at a table with this cheater? Thanks.
06-19-2018 , 09:57 PM
I mean.. opening more than 6 or 9 games at once on this site is super difficult.
06-19-2018 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NTellier85
^Are those kind of volume metrics attainable over months at a time? Sure, if its just some kid who clearly doesnt have a job, doesnt go to school, has no social life, and just wants to print money.

I mean he must literally be sleeping at his computer, waking up, grinding SNGs, ordering delivery for food, falling asleep at his computer, and doing it all over again day after day after day after day. While also getting 4-6hrs of sleep a day. $100/day aint worth that **** if you ask me.


Are those of volume metrics also high enough to warrant someone looking into him? Absolutely.
I agree, No doubt. No way to hold a job like that either. Maybe a newly found trust fund and a good source of pure Peruvian coke.

From what I see on SS, he isn't making s***. 19K profit over (8) months is nothing, avg $600/wk for that kind of torture to the body & soul? Screw that.

I am glad Global is checking into it and anyone that disagree's should re-think their stance on the situation.
06-19-2018 , 10:13 PM
hey man, this nmbr1dnk. they got me a week ago. got same email. have since been able to play but been afraid with all this worldpay crap going on. got a couple questions for ya if you find time to answer....have you cashed out yet through worldpay? is paypal no longer used?.......btw, global account was froze for 5 days. I sent them a hate filled email and have since been "unfrozen". one more question,,is global officially the worst site you've ever dealt with? hope to hear from ya, chad.
06-19-2018 , 10:15 PM
This has more twists'n'turns than chubby checker in a blender.

if found to be a bot what about all the "PROS" on here claiming they played with him saying "never once thought he was a bot". should they start worrying about their volume??

What ever you do GP don't have him TRY ON THE GLOVE!!
06-19-2018 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tubal-cain
This has more twists'n'turns than chubby checker in a blender.

if found to be a bot what about all the "PROS" on here claiming they played with him saying "never once thought he was a bot". should they start worrying about their volume??

What ever you do GP don't have him TRY ON THE GLOVE!!
not a pro if micro grinding $3 tables and making no money (well 20k whoopie)

Notice how all these "pros" defending him are 2018 accounts.
06-19-2018 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LETIGRA
Wow! I suspected this. 250 hours in 17 days.

Not possible at all. Played full time for almost a decade and was able to book some sick hours some months but never broke 250 in a month. That's with having no life, no wife, no gf, no kids, 1 brd apt on my own, no distractions, make meals when I play, only go to bathroom rarely, sleep very little, lol now I'm depressing everyone...

But that was my highest volume month of all time with regards to hours played. Most months were under 160 cause it takes a ton of mental stamina to mass multitable just 40 hours a week.
You're talking about your self specifically. I have done more than 250 hours in 17 days, and know at least 10+ people that have easily done that at one point. Maybe its hard for you to multitable 40 hours a week, but that's not a valid point what so ever. Everyone is different.

Also, I know TheOnlyHuman. I can confirm he doesn't do **** in life other than grind and complain about girls/poker. Either way, my opinion doesn't mean much. I'm sure this all will be cleared up after he sends in the live stream, or video, or whatever the **** it is
06-19-2018 , 11:28 PM
another 2018 account that knows OP. shocker.

You guys are all such hardcore grinders.

Specifically, what is your relationship to him other than that you are him?
06-19-2018 , 11:30 PM
I'm not the best sng layer in the world but TOH has 1600 blinds 3/600 folds utg snap filds blind versus blind 1400 stack with 600 in the middle 800 left then small blind the next hand snap folds leaving himself with 550 behind(someone in his most recent SNG can provide the exact numbers) then he calls with his remaining 500 on the button. his style seems to be a lot different and he went on an immediate down swing after this situation but I was giving him credit with some stress related to this situation.
06-19-2018 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DrMoonshine123
You're talking about your self specifically. I have done more than 250 hours in 17 days, and know at least 10+ people that have easily done that at one point. Maybe its hard for you to multitable 40 hours a week, but that's not a valid point what so ever. Everyone is different.

Also, I know TheOnlyHuman. I can confirm he doesn't do **** in life other than grind and complain about girls/poker. Either way, my opinion doesn't mean much. I'm sure this all will be cleared up after he sends in the live stream, or video, or whatever the **** it is
complain about girls? no one is getting laid with this schedule
06-19-2018 , 11:39 PM
lol did not want to needle him but I was thinking wow you know 10+ virgins?
06-20-2018 , 12:31 AM
The accounts with low posts made in the last year vouching for OP are hilarious. Even if someone whos been around for awhile came in and posted hey I know hes not using software while he plays that doesnt mean a damn thing. The random accounts coming in make me think hes messaging his buddys who could also be using the same software while playing and are worried theyll catch on to what their doing so they come in to cover for him.

If it was me who was getting accused of this I'd of made a video ASAP and been in here saying how im making a video LOL at u noobs thinking im a bot. Not telling all my unknown "friends" on there freshly made 2+2accounts to come in and say im not cheating. What do you know all these guys in real life and they come over and sit and watch u grind micro sngs in moms basement all day? Just prove you're innocent with a video its not complicated.

Clearly global(and some players)thought something was up with his account as did other players. This is 2018 everybody has access to a way to record a session do it prove your not using software and then everybody will leave you alone.

Last edited by yellowfever; 06-20-2018 at 12:53 AM.
06-20-2018 , 12:58 AM
something smells fishy
06-20-2018 , 01:03 AM
I like when he and his 2018 accounts tell jamesk777 about "what it's like to be a serious grinder"

Prolly the strongest player in this thread but okay just dismiss his opinion.
06-20-2018 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowfever
The accounts with low posts made in the last year vouching for OP are hilarious. Even if someone whos been around for awhile came in and posted hey I know hes not using software while he plays that doesnt mean a damn thing. The random accounts coming in make me think hes messaging his buddys who could also be using the same software while playing and are worried theyll catch on to what their doing so they come in to cover for him.

If it was me who was getting accused of this I'd of made a video ASAP and been in here saying how im making a video LOL at u noobs thinking im a bot. Not telling all my unknown "friends" on there freshly made 2+2accounts to come in and say im not cheating. What do you know all these guys in real life and they come over and sit and watch u grind micro sngs in moms basement all day? Just prove you're innocent with a video its not complicated.

Clearly global(and some players)thought something was up with his account as did other players. This is 2018 everybody has access to a way to record a session do it prove your not using software and then everybody will leave you alone.
I don't have to defend myself, but I will. I've never been apart of any poker community (outside of Magic City Casino) before I got on Global, so thats why I have a very recent account on 2+2. I've been poker friends with Human long before he took this ban and made this thread. We exchange poker strategy most of the time, and talk about life on rare other times. Either way, I have nothing to worry about, as I could prove I'm not a bot, easily, if Global ever asked.

I have no other reason to defend Human other than the fact that what I think Global is doing is unfair, and morally wrong targeting him. He's helped me a lot through my SNG progression, and the least a friend could do is defend him, so I will do just that
06-20-2018 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerDividends
something smells fishy
I think thats your vagina
06-20-2018 , 01:16 AM
SNG hypers are a cess pool. Personally, I choose to play cash tables where the bots suck ***.

Props to Global for trying to drain the swamp.

Where’s the video OP? The one without the key-bindings since you literally can not click that fast...
06-20-2018 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DrMoonshine123
I don't have to defend myself, but I will. I've never been apart of any poker community (outside of Magic City Casino) before I got on Global, so thats why I have a very recent account on 2+2. I've been poker friends with Human long before he took this ban and made this thread. We exchange poker strategy most of the time, and talk about life on rare other times. Either way, I have nothing to worry about, as I could prove I'm not a bot, easily, if Global ever asked.

I have no other reason to defend Human other than the fact that what I think Global is doing is unfair, and morally wrong targeting him
. He's helped me a lot through my SNG progression, and the least a friend could do is defend him, so I will do just that
LOL this comment is gold. Morally wrong to ask for a video of the someone playing online poker to verify their not cheating. Again this has been done for over 10 years now to high volume players that sites deem high risk.

Its morally right that it happens for game integrity. Players on global should be happy that this is happening to make sure players arent cheating you with no worries about detection.
06-20-2018 , 01:25 AM
He folds to any aggression hahahah just raise 100% of his bb and he will fold almost every time. I sure hope they close his account back up asap
06-20-2018 , 01:25 AM
I guess for 6 days I’m going to hammer his blinds until you guys ban him again
06-20-2018 , 01:38 AM
It's his first day playing poker. Give him a chance to learn to defend blinds.

To all the 2018 accounts who are saying you met him in real life and is not a bot, we get that.

We are not actually saying he is a robot.

We are saying he is a human using assistance.

      
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