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06-19-2018 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterMango
No innocent person gets this defensive about being asked to show evidence they were not cheating.
So if someone accuses you of rape you would not get defensive? People react differently to accusations, such a dumb comment.
06-19-2018 , 05:23 PM
whatever happened to that xxxxxx89 player that was accused of "BOTulism"?

He still playin?
06-19-2018 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MikePence
The man (or bot) has never remotely had a downswing. The best in the world have down swings. I am not saying he's guilty, but it may be fair to question it
He plays micro SnGs, variance in these games is basically break even.
06-19-2018 , 05:58 PM
Hey guys,

Just a quick comment about this broadly. I can't and won't speak about this specific isssue.

Players accounts are never banned just because somebody accuses them of being a bot.

As well as proactively scanning for automated play we investigate every single allegation made. The vast majority of these are thrown out as frivolous.

We use a number of techniques as part of these investigations. I won't go into detail for obvious reasons but they are consistent with the methods used by other leading poker sites in this space.

The video is not made public, it is for our records solely and once human play is proven the matter is closed and the account status is returned to normal.

Thanks
06-19-2018 , 06:03 PM
So the fact that his account was initially banned tells us that they found evidence of bot/software play.

Cool.
06-19-2018 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobalPoker_Joey
Hey guys,

Just a quick comment about this broadly. I can't and won't speak about this specific isssue.

Players accounts are never banned just because somebody accuses them of being a bot.

As well as proactively scanning for automated play we investigate every single allegation made. The vast majority of these are thrown out as frivolous.

We use a number of techniques as part of these investigations. I won't go into detail for obvious reasons but they are consistent with the methods used by other leading poker sites in this space.

The video is not made public, it is for our records solely and once human play is proven the matter is closed and the account status is returned to normal.

Thanks
Nope, your investigation team made a mistake, You may not say it, but he very likely was suspended because of complaints, I really doubt it was for any other reason, this guy has received more complaints of being a bot then anyone else on this site. With that said, im happy you guys are doing this instead of not checking, this is good you guys care enough to do this, im not beating you guys down, trust me, I like what you guys are doing here, and like I said this is just IMO and there could be other reasons you guys suspended/banned his account, only you guys know and I dont, I just saw a ton of complaints about this specific player and it did not suprise me to see this happen.
06-19-2018 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NTellier85
So the fact that his account was initially banned tells us that they found evidence of bot/software play.

Cool.
no that is not what is said. sounds like he or she needs to make a video for gp.
that shows they can handle the volume. sounds legit to me. though i believe human is a real player.
06-19-2018 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by awoll714
no that is not what is said. sounds like he or she needs to make a video for gp.
that shows they can handle the volume. sounds legit to me. though i believe human is a real player.
"Players accounts are never banned just because somebody accuses them of being a bot."

His account was banned. Only re-opened to make a video.
06-19-2018 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn
Nope, your investigation team made a mistake,
LOL Joey clearly needs to have GP hire this guy. He apparently knows everything for certain.
06-19-2018 , 06:21 PM
One thing for certain is that someone has 6 days to learn to play poker very fast.
06-19-2018 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn
So if someone accuses you of rape you would not get defensive? People react differently to accusations, such a dumb comment.
Except this is not rape you idiot.
06-19-2018 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn
He plays micro SnGs, variance in these games is basically break even.
Lol. Such a dumb comment.
06-19-2018 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesk777
To everyone's eyes, based on how much you are playing, you look like a bot. Don't YOU think you look like a bot, from a third person perspective? Does it make sense for GP to let someone under suspicion to continue playing without proving themselves? If you notice yourself someone is playing suspiciously, don't you want that person to be investigated? If I were you and I was innocent, I would get this done ASAP and continue playing.
The majority of you sound like whiny bad regs dude plays just like any other tight reg. If hes on does it not mean he proved to global hes human or am I confused? I think Poker12 was prolly right estimating the hours human played.
06-19-2018 , 07:09 PM
You're confused.

His account was banned.

They told him he would be unbanned for 7 days to create a video for them. If he didn't then he's back to being banned. He's also still restricted from making any cashouts.

If you go back a few pages OP posted the email from GP.
06-19-2018 , 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GlobalPoker_Joey
Hey guys,

Just a quick comment about this broadly. I can't and won't speak about this specific isssue.

Players accounts are never banned just because somebody accuses them of being a bot.

As well as proactively scanning for automated play we investigate every single allegation made. The vast majority of these are thrown out as frivolous.

We use a number of techniques as part of these investigations. I won't go into detail for obvious reasons but they are consistent with the methods used by other leading poker sites in this space.

The video is not made public, it is for our records solely and once human play is proven the matter is closed and the account status is returned to normal.

Thanks
Cool story. Give me the ability to withdraw again.
06-19-2018 , 07:16 PM
Here's a little math lesson for the majority of you who fail the elementary level.

If you play for 3hrs, take a 2hr break, play for 3 hrs, take a 2hr break, then play for 3 hrs again you've played a total of 9 hrs, not 13.

I know I know. Learn something new everyday right?
06-19-2018 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterMango
Lol. Such a dumb comment.
Its not a dumb comment, the average ROI for good players in these micro SnGs is around 15 to 20%, maybe not for you, but for alot of the good players it is, anytime you run bad in these games you mostly just end up breaking even because of the such high ROIs, for example a player grinding higher stakes that has a 4% ROI is more likely to experince a downswing because of the lesser ege and lower ROI.
06-19-2018 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterMango
Except this is not rape you idiot.
It does not matter what the issue is, people react differently to accusations, just because he reacted the way he did does not constitute guilt.
06-19-2018 , 07:24 PM
****, the $6/$11 9mans on GP are such a fishbowl I'd say ROI's even higher than 20% are attainable.
06-19-2018 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NTellier85
****, the $6/$11 9mans on GP are such a fishbowl I'd say ROI's even higher than 20% are attainable.
I think so. I played them for cpl hours not too long ago. Folded the first two levels or so and was done to 4 or 5 handed. Really bad play from some of them. Several players were in most games with me doing the exact same thing. More like clicking buttons vs playing poker.
06-19-2018 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NTellier85
****, the $6/$11 9mans on GP are such a fishbowl I'd say ROI's even higher than 20% are attainable.
Exactly, this is my point, if you take 2 players that have the exact same skill and put one in $100 SnGs, and you have another play $6 SnGs, if they both play a couple thousand games, who is more likely to experience downswings? Obviously its the guy playing the higher stakes, his ROI is going to be lower and will be more likely to have dips in his graph, vs the guy with 20% ROI in $6 games.
06-19-2018 , 07:49 PM
I wasn't discrediting your point?
06-19-2018 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn
Its not a dumb comment, the average ROI for good players in these micro SnGs is around 15 to 20%, maybe not for you, but for alot of the good players it is, anytime you run bad in these games you mostly just end up breaking even because of the such high ROIs, for example a player grinding higher stakes that has a 4% ROI is more likely to experince a downswing because of the lesser ege and lower ROI.
My roi is higher than that.

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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn
It does not matter what the issue is, people react differently to accusations, just because he reacted the way he did does not constitute guilt.
Ok reasonable. I still think he's guilty.
06-19-2018 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LETIGRA
One thing for certain is that someone has 6 days to learn to play poker very fast.
This is funny. Imagine freaking out on 2 plus 2 and then the site saying, okay, do your thing. Earlier when I looked, he finished 5-9 in every sng but it was a very small sample size. I am going to grind these sng the next 6 days looking for him for ****s. will report what I see if anything worth seeing
06-19-2018 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MikePence
This is funny. Imagine freaking out on 2 plus 2 and then the site saying, okay, do your thing.
Ha yeah. And then like you pointed out in a past post he is playing much lower volume. Hope he realizes that when gp wants a video of a "normal" session they obviously want a pre-ban "normal session" not slow session.

This includes this:

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Originally Posted by NTellier85
Additionally when we've gotten HU in our SNGs, you literally act before the software has even fully dealt my cards, another huge red flag of software insta-acting once cards are recognized.
Rut Row..

      
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