Do we have a translator in the building?

I can definitely confirm that if you play multiple SnG tables for multiple hours in a day all sorts of fish (mouthbreathers is also accurate) will start to think you're a bot. I definitely play fewer hours than TOH and probably average fewer games played at a time, and I sometimes time out, yet I still get accused quite regularly of being a bot.

These guys just can't conceive of people playing more than maybe 3 games at a time. They're not bright enough to realize that one of the reasons for this is these fish are playing like 3x as many hands as someone playing "correct" SnG strategy.

I remember a couple of months back a certain player played for ~40 hours straight at all SnGs 44 and above, and he probably won about 5k in the session, and I remember wondering if he was a bot and even almost sent a PM about it to Jaredpoker and another reg. Since then, however, he's only played completely normal sessions and is 99.998% likely to be human. He was probably just on Adderall.

Damn dude I've grinded alongside TheOnlyHuman quite a bit and never suspected that he was a bot. Definitely puts in a ton of volume but so do a lot of regs on the site so... hope you can get this cleared up man.


Would definitely be interested to hear what GP has to say about their "bot detection methods". I suspect they don't have any and just rely on ******s spamming reports on players theyre salty about.

GL

This doesn't seem like a fair conclusion to make when his account was "temporarily blocked" not banned.

I don't think Global is out of line to go through this process. I guess they should have been able to figure it out on their own if they had good monitoring tools, but them wanting to get answers to a few basic questions isn't the end of the world.

Although, the way that email is written is a little ridiculous imo.

How does one prove they are not a bot? Even taping himself playing a session isn't proof. You're asking the guy to prove a negative. The burden is on people claiming he is a bot and it better be a whole lot better than "he plays a lot of hours!"

lol Jared the Rustler

There are many winning players on Global that have worse shoving ranges than Jared.

This, however, I find hard to believe But that may just be my ineptitude showing.

Im pretty sure most people understood my point, let me make it a little easier for you to understand. If your grinding the micro SNGs, your more likely to be accused of being a bot vs someone else grinding the higher stake SNGs, reason being, more players total at the lower stakes, and a higher % of fish at the lower stakes, if your playing a higher % of fish, its mathematically more likely your going to receive more complaints.

17/7 is a far cry from 23/7 or 24/7. 17/7 means not much of a social or family life, but is not proof of him running bot programs.

It's enough volume to warrant the site asking some questions, but locking the account while asking seems a bit extreme and unnecessary imo.

Alos, most players might get annoyed of me saying this, but its 2018 and people still do not know how to play the simple game of SNGs, if you watch theonlyhuman play, all he does is fold all day and shove 10 BB and under, if players were smart enough they would just look at how he plays, this is why I don't think my comment will have any effect on these games, these players are degenerate gamblers, there like the blackjack players that just sit there and throw there money away, they don't care to learn or get better, the knowledge on the internet to beat SNGs is free, yet, players still don't learn in 2018.

Also, I might be wrong about this, still new to online poker so somebody can correct me if im wrong, but dont bots use weird bet sizes? For example, 274, 137, 474, theonlyhuman uses standard rounded bet sizes, if im wrong somebody let me know, I guess someone could make a bot like this so it was not as noticable, but let me know guys.

Hi TheOnlyHuman. Reading the OP just makes me think he's guilty. The way he is reacting is that of someone who was botting and got caught. I hope global conducts a thorough investigation and comes to the correct conclusion based on the evidence they find.

I also think Matt Hirschhorn might be an alternate 2+2 account of the OP or a friend of his. All of these people coming in to side with him on the thread is pretty fishy.

What a very rational though out comment. I theres players on this site that have actually cheated and there accounts are still activated, hes not one of them

lol

It could be that we're trying to not throw a guy under the bus when there's been zero proof presented of bottery ... or it could be that we're alternate accounts of TheOnlyHuman and/or shills. One of those two.

The only person who knows if OP is cheating or not is OP. None of us have eyes on OP 24/7, so lets just let the process play out. /thread

If there is consistently 119 hours of play per week on an account I would find that suspicious.

That's a heck of a lot of poker. I used to play full time and track my hours and my highest weeks were all 70-75 hours of play in a week.

Now maybe I'm not a hard enough worker, but I swear I had no life, and the ONLY activity I did was online poker those weeks, and I still only worked 70ish hours.

More importantly, I was not able to keep it up week after week. I mean even 60 hours feels like all you do is play poker.

SO to be clear, this account is playing 119 hours week after week? That is significant for sure.

No. I'm looking through his sharkscope and 119hrs/week is an obvious exaggeration. He plays a ton, but has the typical 6-8 hour long breaks consistently. I would guesstimate closer to 80.

Or people that know Human personally...?

Do those people watch his computer screen 24/7? Oh they don’t? Then no. Only OP can vouch for OP.

Indeed. This is really a brilliant piece of deception by the OP. He has systematically created multiple 2+2 accounts over time, building posting histories for all of them, so if one day he got caught botting at $6 sng's he could set up his proper 2+2 account to protest and have all these secret mole accounts at the ready to back him up.

Now we know who you really are Matt Hirschhorn! lol

I AM MATT HIRSCHHORN

Dear Global Poker,

When you suspect an account of botting, you send them a Captcha in the chat box and you ask them to type it. THAT IS WHAT YOU DO. THAT IS THE INDUSTRY STANDARD. Suspending an account mid game is incredibly unprofessional.

TheOnlyHuman should be angry.

And Honestly, if this is their bot detection and prevention protocol, the site must be absolutely infested with bots. (But prolly not TheOnlyHuman)

"Please answer our state of the art anti-bot security question:

1) Are you uh.... a bot?"

Beep. No.

You see no indication? That's exactly the reason people are suspicious of him.

I reported you. I have no problem admitting that. I also know many others have reported you.

The fact that you play 24hr sessions without any significant breaks is a HUGE red flag of being a bot. I think anyone can agree with that.

I've also attempted to chat with you numerous times at our tables, never a reply.

Additionally when we've gotten HU in our SNGs, you literally act before the software has even fully dealt my cards, another huge red flag of software insta-acting once cards are recognized.

Am I 100% that you are a bot? Of course not. But I think you have more than enough suspicious activity to warrant an investigation. If that investigation by GP proves that you are indeed playing for 36hrs without sleep non-stop then cool, my hats off to you for not going bat**** insane and being one of the most intense grinders of micro stakes I've ever come across.

I also don't agree that GP should have outright banned you mid-game without FIRST doing their investigation.

You can do your own damn investigation into this with a 5 dollar Sharkscope subscription and it'll take 5 minutes. Seems like this should be step 1, and complaining to Global should be step 2.

I have a Sharkscope subscription and that is where I found him to be playing for 24hrs+ straight, what are you talking about?