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 01-02-2018, 07:00 AM #26 nickthegeek journeyman   Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 216 Re: Pocket Pairs: Odds you'll see overcard on flop The passage I quoted in post #24 is where double counting happens. You count as follow: 1) take a nine 2) take an overcard 3) take any remaining card 4) make every permutation If correct, the above should generate any permutation only once for every different choice in steps 1)-3). Unfortunately, that's not the case. Think about a Ks9hJc flop. There are two paths in your algorithm leading to it. Path 1: 1) take the 9h 2) take the Ks 3) take the Jc 4) permute and arrive (among others) to Ks9hJc Path 2: 1) take the 9h 2) take the Jc 3) take the Ks 4) permute and arrive (among others) to Ks9hJc See the problem? If you want to count flops with at least a 9 and at least an overcard, count the following types (O=overcard): 99O 9OO 9OU Last edited by nickthegeek; 01-02-2018 at 07:08 AM.
 01-02-2018, 09:33 AM #27 DalTXColtsFan veteran   Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: contributing to the poker economy Posts: 3,014 Re: Pocket Pairs: Odds you'll see overcard on flop Got it. Thanks.
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Re: Pocket Pairs: Odds you'll see overcard on flop

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 Originally Posted by heehaww Number of players makes no difference because you don't know their cards. Whether the unknown cards are lumped into one big pile or piles of two doesn't change any probabilities. See the sticky
LOL, THANKS. ...LIKE I SAID 24 HR GRIND, IT ENDED KK VS AK.

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