Is online poker flawed, fundamentally? - Page 42 - Gambling and Probability

I have a coin 1/2

I have ten boxes

What is your chance of heads from 1 of the boxes?

Now bare in mind I have not said if there is any coins in the boxes.

Your answer of 1/2 is a stupid answer., think .....

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03-13-2018 , 10:18 AM

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Monteroy

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Let the next act begin!!

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03-13-2018 , 10:20 AM

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pkdk

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Originally Posted by Monteroy

Let the next act begin!!

Disruptive troll comments dude, I take this for you not being clever and not being able to think. So to make up for this, you in some way think you are a comedian?

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03-13-2018 , 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pkdk

You keep making the same mistake, 10 is not the same physical quantity as 2.

1/10 is not 1/2

You are correct.

If you have 1 box with something and 1 box with nothing you have 2 boxes.
Odds of getting something: 1/2

If you have 5 boxes with something and 5 boxes with nothing, you have 10 boxes.
Odds of getting something: 5/10

But 1/2 = 50% and 5/10=50%
If A = B and B = C then A = C

1/2 = 50%
5/10 = 50%

1/2 = 5/10

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03-13-2018 , 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pkdk

pk you are not clearly defining the problem.

"I have a coin 1/2" - sorry what does this mean? be specific.

You have 1 coin? You have 2 coins?

Your communication skills are terrible. Your ability to define problems is terrible. Your reading comprehension is terrible.

You have a lot to work on.

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03-13-2018 , 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo

You are so close to understanding.

You now have ten boxes and you do not know what the boxes contain

Calculate the odds

p.s why are taking away ''mass'' from 10 to make it 2?

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03-13-2018 , 10:32 AM

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If you do not know how many coins there are, you cannot solve the problem.

This is in no way related to any of the problems we've been working on, where we DO know what the starting sets were.

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03-13-2018 , 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pkdk

Disruptive troll comments dude, I take this for you not being clever and not being able to think. So to make up for this, you in some way think you are a comedian?

Check your ?/? math. You just said I don't think and then you said I do think. No need to be so butthurt. I do not take you seriously because I know trying to genuinely talk to or help you is a waste of time and energy, and in the end I have to put my need for amusement well ahead of any concerns about your needs.

Anyway, looks like Greebo is trying to chat with you and help you some more for some reason, so get back on your horse and ride! Yeeeehawww!!!!

All the best.

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03-13-2018 , 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pkdk

I have a deck of cards.

What is your chance of picking the Ace of Diamonds from the deck?

Now bear in mind that some of the cards might actually be coins. We may have lost some cards when we played rummy with grandma. One of the cards might be a ham sandwich.

The point being: it's impossible to calculate probability if you're not sure you're playing with a full deck.

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03-13-2018 , 10:34 AM

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Aspy confirmed

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03-13-2018 , 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo

That would a subjective notion based on your own opinion.

1/2 is 1 of two constants.

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03-13-2018 , 10:38 AM

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VLADIMIR:
Well? Shall we go?

ESTRAGON:
Yes, let's go.

They do not move.

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03-13-2018 , 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by illdonk

And there is the answer. Now stick with that thought and please understand

I take 10 top cards from 10 decks and put them into 10 boxes.

What is your chance of Ad from the ten boxes?

Not what is the chance any of them are a Ad.

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03-13-2018 , 10:42 AM

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We understand your thought process. It's just meaningless and fundamentally flawed.

I take a deck of cards and shuffle it.

What are the chances that the top card is an Ace of Diamonds? 1 in 52.

I turn the top card over. It's the 7 of spades.

Now what are the chances that the top card is an Ace of Diamonds? 0 in 52.

You consider it a fundamental flaw that the same card can have multiple chances, and in fact is no longer a random 1 in 52 chance.

That's because you keep starting your calculations after you turn the card over. But it's the initial conditions that matter.

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03-13-2018 , 10:43 AM

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24our

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I'm gonna go on a whim and say it's 1/52

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03-13-2018 , 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 24our

I'm gonna go on a whim and say it's 1/52

No, there is only ten boxes, there is no longer 52, 52 is no longer in the equation.

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03-13-2018 , 10:45 AM

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Technical - A deck of cards is 52 constants that are variable in position over time by way of displacement.

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03-13-2018 , 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pkdk

No, there is only ten boxes, there is no longer 52, 52 is no longer in the equation.

Why does it matter?

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03-13-2018 , 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 24our

Why does it matter?

Quantum leaping, clusters, repeats, target areas, a basic mess over time.

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03-13-2018 , 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pkdk

Quantum leaping, clusters, repeats, a basic mess over time.

Wtf are u talking about lol

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03-13-2018 , 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 24our

Wtf are u talking about lol

I know, sorry, this would be more technical to explain, if nobody can actually understand the basic premise, it is hardly worth trying to explain the above at this stage.

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03-13-2018 , 10:54 AM

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I will quickly explain targeting

1
2
1
2
2
1
2
2
2
2
2
1

See in the above how 2 has a bigger target area. This also shows clusters.

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03-13-2018 , 10:54 AM

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EvilGreebo

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And we're back to nonsense.

pkdk allow me to demonstrate how you exit a thread.

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03-13-2018 , 10:57 AM

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pkdk

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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo

And we're back to nonsense.

pkdk allow me to demonstrate how you exit a thread.

You were so close, you just do not want to accept it, the nonsense you say is not nonsense it is basic physics ,

I will say goodbye and thx if you are leaving, being rather immature about it.

Have you never seen a red or black cluster on a roulette wheels results ?

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