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06-02-2018 , 06:29 AM
hi. I am curious about some debate that I am participating in BQ, but I think people in this forum will give me the best answers for what I do not know exactly about.

This is link to thread (if you are interesting in; but no need to click this as all the data required I put in this thread):

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...-i-do-1713264/

Here are opīs stats (HM2) in mentioned thread:
https://imgur.com/grZVp8W

So my maths from the tittle are(Opīs stats):

We know ITM at OPīs stats is 39,2%. Now I want to come to this number from other data.

NWC:TC=19.345:181=106.88

Because we start with 500 chips we add 106.88 to 500 and we get 606.88.

606.88/500=1.21

Because there are three players in Spin and Goes there is 33.33% percent chance that everybody would win next game(if players would have been same good). But players are not same good. "We are 1.21 times better than "average"". So,

33.33%* 1.21 = 40.33%

40.33% is not the same as 39,2%.


Is everything fine with this maths? Why is it wrong?

Also, somebody there said that NWC(Net won Chips) should be number that is only a multiplier of 500, which is kind of obvious. Number in OPīs stats is not that. 19.345 is not multiplier of 500.

My second question is: How can NWC (and maybe some other too) number be wrong in HM2? I allways assumed numbers there are 100 percent correct.

Last edited by SiberianPIMP; 06-02-2018 at 06:49 AM.
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06-02-2018 , 02:36 PM
I made a mistake in the tittle. Instead of ICM% it should be ITM%. So, title should be:
ITM% correlation with NWC in spin and goes

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06-02-2018 , 09:44 PM
Is NWC in HM2 adjusted for all-in EV?

Otherwise it just sounds like a rounding error, or I just don’t understand the 1.21 vs 33 percent equation properly.
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06-03-2018 , 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by robert_utk
Is NWC in HM2 adjusted for all-in EV?

Otherwise it just sounds like a rounding error, or I just don’t understand the 1.21 vs 33 percent equation properly.
TY for post.

NWC is how many chips we have made/loss(all together) minus all the chips we had at the beggining (I do not think this is adjusted for all-in EV). I do not know how can any rounding be done there as this is exact number. Maybe I confused something and my thinking is wrong?

About my calculations: I am not sure that I made right calculations. I can be wrong. I did not find any equasion on internet on similar cases, so this maths (my first post in this thread) is how I think both numbers are linked.
For example:
33 percent is for us 500 chips as for three players are playing. Numbers that we get with 500 chips should be the same as we get with 33 percent.

But more that I think about my maths here more I think my equasion is wrong? What I would like to do is to get 39,2% ITM from the other numbers from the above stats. I am not even sure if this is possible to be done.

Last edited by SiberianPIMP; 06-03-2018 at 03:35 AM.
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06-03-2018 , 06:23 AM
his 1st, 2nd and 3rd sums up to 167 (71+45+51), while tag count says 181.

if the software does everything correctly, maybe some kind of filter is activated that mixes spin&go with some other tournaments with the same table size and stake?
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06-03-2018 , 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by md46135
his 1st, 2nd and 3rd sums up to 167 (71+45+51), while tag count says 181.

if the software does everything correctly, maybe some kind of filter is activated that mixes spin&go with some other tournaments with the same table size and stake?
TY for reply.

Ohh, I see it yes (diff between sums and tag count). Do not know really, probably you are right.
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