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Originally Posted by apokerplayer
I think the more important thing to consider, more than whether the hand is your exact one or not, is: the situation in which the villain is speaking. Some things to think about:
1) Is the villain saying something when they're waiting for you to act? Most cases of speaking from waiting-to-act players is going to defensive, no matter what it is. Like if it's your turn to bet and your opponent says, "You got A-7, huh" it's going to eliminate a lot of their strongest hands, just because if they were super-strong they wouldn't want to discourage your bet. Mostly useful for eliminating the strongest hands, and still obviously not 100%, just a general pattern.
2) Is he saying this after he's made a large bet (or before/during)? If so, what kind of hand is he assigning you? In my book Verbal Poker Tells, I wrote that there's a general pattern for this that can sometimes help if you're on the fence. Here's the pattern:
• If a bettor is assigning you a weak-hand range, then this could be seen as goading and he's more likely to have a strong-hand.
•*If the bettor is assigning you a strong-hand range, then this could be seen as him representing strength with a weak hand (essentially saying, "I thought you had a strong hand but I bet anyway" or "I know you have a strong hand, but I"m comfortable.")
In the hand you talk about, the opponent's speech assigns you a strong hand, and that's associated with a bet, so the general rule says that this weakens his range. Obviously it's not going to be 100% but this gives us some general info, and for some players these things will be more reliable than for others. Keep in mind it definitely does not reduce the likelihood of all strong hands; it just makes the strongest hands less likely. In this case, I wouldn't be surprised if he had AT or an overpair, which are generally pretty strong hands in this situation.
Meant to also say: your opponent's raise wasn't yet significant and it occurred early-in-a-hand. Early-hand talking will generally be like talking from a player who's waiting-for-action: it'll generally indicate weakness no matter what. One way to think of this: if this player actually had a 7, he'd generally not want to lose your action and not want to say anything that might scare you off. This is mainly because the pot is small and he's focused on the situation and wants to build a pot. These things are less of a factor once the pot is built; that's where you find bettors getting more loose and creative with their speech even with strong hands. But generally, early-in-a-hand, I tend to think any spontaneous talking tends to weaken a player's range, no matter what they say.
Its' amazing how many don't know these simple tells
I use both a lot.
my favorite is a lead out river bet or a river raise and then do it
board K 5465 no flush and I say your AK is no good
they will look at me in disbelief ; tank ;then fold
if same situation comes up later but I have a 5 or 66 or the straight I will say and do same and get paid off. of course you have to have a read on your opp
some players never fold some don't pay attention some can never make a big laydown, others want a pat on the back as to the big laydown, read your opp and give them what they want to hear to get them to do what you want them to do ...I would say over last 200 times Ive done this I have 90% success ratio
Even the guy that looks down and says nothing but stares at the table is still listening to the clammering.
BTW I don't waste time on $50 pots with this ;these are monster pots or large all ins that I put it to use in. After all live games are slow enough without every hand being dragged out
