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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Maybe so. We will have to get clarification from OP. His OP says "after I bet he immediately raised and I was forced to call". That sounds different than "after I raised, he quickly limped in forcing my raise to stand and then after everyone else folded, he 3 bet me"
The times he did this to me it looked like he had folded, not limped. I couldn't see any chips in front of him to indicate a limp, and didn't see any cards either as he was covering them. The first time with KJ the dealer said I had to call since the guy to my right's "raise" was just under 2x my bet (I think I bet 15 and he bet around 25). I guess that's not technically a "raise" since it's less than 2x my bet but I didn't know what else to call it.
Is the dealer wrong here? Could I have folded? Could I have changed the bet amount? If not, is it different if the guy to my right had bet, say, 35 instead of 25?
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Originally Posted by psujohn
In most rooms you're only required to have your chips visible. There's no requirement to stack them in way that they're easily counted. Typically I can estimate close enough for any decision. If not I'll stop and ask V how many big chips he has and if he doesn't sort them or say then I'll stop and count them.
They were stacked in one column in a random manner, combining white chips, gray chips, red chips, and green chips. When he left the table I was able to count them by leaning in, but it was extremely difficult to figure out how much he had while playing. To make things worse, his covering of his hand would partially obscure the chip stack. I politely asked him how many green chips he had but he ignored me. Later, a player to his right told me how many he had. I also asked him politely if he'd trade his green chips to me for red chips as I had like 140 red chips at that point but he just ignored me. He was intentionally making his stack as hard to read as possible.
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And yeah, the player to my right was seat 4 obviously. Sorry about that. Seat 6 was the medium stack and on my left.
The "yep, pay attention" comment is very helpful, thanks, especially since I already suggested I should obviously do that in the OP. Typically I am following all the things mentioned by agamblerthen, such as who bet, how much, who called, etc. I'm also typically watching the players to my left more when the cards are dealt since a lot of them telegraph their folds. By the time I look right, the guy may have already looked at his cards or not. He's just sitting there looking exactly the same as if he had folded, not making any motions towards his chips or anything, appearing disinterested but really hoping I bet out of turn. And I did. Twice. I got caught off guard. I'm still in my first 100 hours of live play and do get caught off guard sometimes, but it happens less and less the more I play, and I'll be watching out for this kind of thing in the future. Still adapting to live vs. online play. Maybe more slowly than most, but adapting. I'll get there.
Last edited by Shai Hulud; 06-08-2017 at 03:02 PM.
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