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Old 10-24-2017, 08:07 AM   #1
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How do I figure out my own tell?

I'm 95% sure that one of the regs I play with has a live read on me. He always seems to 3bet me preflop when I am opening light, but he never does it when I have QQ+. He also bluff catches me fairly frequently on rivers, yet the few times I have him coolered (eg. set vs 2pr), he tanks and mumbles to himself "you look so confident" before sigh calling.

I'm a winning player at $2/$5, but this guy truly crushes me to the point where I know that he can either see my hole cards or he can read me somehow.

I'm trying to figure out what the tell might be. I think it could be:
1) Timing tell - perhaps I make bets faster or slower when I'm bluffing.
2) Looking at hole cards preflop - perhaps I look at my cards a different way when I see AA.
3) Eyes - perhaps my eyes subtly move a different way when I'm bluffing.
4) Cutting chips - perhaps I cut chips in a specific way when I'm bluffing. Perhaps I use a specific denomination chip to signify a bluff.
5) Speech - sometimes I'll say things when I'm in a hand like "it's only money" before making a call. Maybe I'm doing this in an unbalanced way.
6) Shaking - I usually shake uncontrollably in big pots. I don't know how to stop myself from doing this.
7) Pulse/breathing - Perhaps I'm doing something here that I don't realise I'm doing.
8) Other hand movements - Perhaps I scratch or rub myself or wave my hand or something without realising it.

I need to figure out what my tell is so that he stops exploiting me. How do I figure out my tell? And are there any tricks to stop shaking or having a high heart pulse in big pots?
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Old 10-24-2017, 05:53 PM   #2
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Re: How do I figure out my own tell?

How often do you play with this reg vs without? and are you beating the other players while he is playing(toying you)? Your "table image" is a very important aspect at this point(if you play with him more than 65%), he could be steamrolling off of one hand in reality?! So your viewing this player as having the edge could create the tell were speaking of.
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Old 10-25-2017, 08:34 AM   #3
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Re: How do I figure out my own tell?

Its fairly difficult to find your own tells, so until you are more comfortable in a live setting i would just try eliminate all tells from your game altogether, most of what you described can be fixed pretty easily
Timing tells-tank often. I get you dont want to be that guy, but its worth it. Whenever i have a big river decision i will take at least 30 seconds regardless if my mind is made up or not
Speech,cutting chips,hand movements,eye movements-just dont do any of this. After a bet, dont speak, dont play with chips, just sit like a statue and stare at one spot/at your opponent
pulse,breathing Most players cant spot neck tells well so i wouldnt worry too much, although wearing a scarf is fine just to be safe
Shaking dont worry about this, shaking in big pots is normal and doesnt reveal strength of your hand
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Old 10-27-2017, 12:43 PM   #4
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Re: How do I figure out my own tell?

IMO there are just some players who you just 'know' somehow. It doesn't really make sense but I have a couple who purposefully mix up their play 'just for me' and I typically will know what to do.

The big thing is to not let it get to your head. Take it on aggressively by creating some false tells and maybe even doing something 'off' in a smaller pot in order to throw him off a bit when the the next 'real' pot comes along. GL
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Old 10-31-2017, 03:37 PM   #5
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Re: How do I figure out my own tell?

I highly recommend you stop cutting chips when you're in a hand. It's such a thoughtless physical activity that it's too difficult to realize when you stop doing it because you're bluffing/nutted, etc.

If I see myself still cutting chips after I put money into a pot, I make sure to stop immediately. I've gotten pretty good at breaking the habit.
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Old 11-01-2017, 04:42 AM   #6
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Re: How do I figure out my own tell?

You should start scripting your motions at this stake level and above.
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Old 11-10-2017, 09:48 PM   #7
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Re: How do I figure out my own tell?

I had a friend sit in on a session once, and asked him to specifcally look at me when I'm in a hand to see what tells I have. He noticed one pretty big thing that idk if I can control, but as least now I'm aware of it. If you don't have any friends who can do this, perhaps ask a friendly reg for a swap and offer to do the same for him.
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:28 PM   #8
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Re: How do I figure out my own tell?

Film yourself while you play with a go pro or something - play 10-15 rounds, document every hand you had in each round and the results and then look back and analyze to see patterns. Maybe your reg puts x3 raise pre flop because he always had a good hand when you didn't, who knows.

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Old Yesterday, 07:38 AM   #9
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Re: How do I figure out my own tell?

I would suggest there is a good chance you're imagining it.

do you have a lot of hours playing together?

Is he a good "thinking player'? If you think he is I would try to eliminate sizing tells first, then I would consider board texture and how he perceives my bets on different run outs.

The shaking hands will go over time, I rarely see it anymore but if I were to and I could correlate it with strong holdings it would be a massive advantage, of all the tells I think this is the most looked at because at some point or another everyone has recognised this tell in themselves, I don't think it would be the worst idea if you just shake with every hand you play until the natural "big hand shakes" dissipate.
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