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Old 05-30-2017, 04:30 PM   #26
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Re: Heavy breathing: strong/weak?

I wear clothing to cleverly disquise my lungs, because it can be reliable.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:04 PM   #27
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Re: Heavy breathing: strong/weak?

Just watched the AA v KK hand from last year's main event with Benger vs Kassouf (sorry on spelling) and when Benger had aces you could see him breathing really deeply while Kassouf was chatting him up. Reinforces strength in my opinion
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Old 07-20-2017, 11:17 AM   #28
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Hey guys I was just thinking about doing a thread like this I also noticed that heavy breathing comes with a very good hand

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Old 07-21-2017, 03:31 PM   #29
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Re: Heavy breathing: strong/weak?

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Old 08-04-2017, 12:01 AM   #30
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Re: Heavy breathing: strong/weak?

In my experience, heavy breathing is always strong.
Vein in the side of the neck buldging and neck tense is always strong as well.
Shoving and then avoiding eye contact=strong.

Asking, "Do you want me to call?" And getting a response of "Whatever you want to do" or "Not really" or evasion is strong.
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Old 09-30-2017, 03:00 PM   #31
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Re: Heavy breathing: strong/weak?

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it doesn't mean strong or weak. it means heightened emotional intensity.
Can be this, from a threat. Bluffers can feel pretty threatened.
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Old 10-01-2017, 05:56 AM   #32
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I encountered a similar situation today in a live game. I had raised the pot with 99 and 3 players called. flop came A65 . First 2 players and i checked. Next player bet small 10$ maybe a quarter of the pot. Other 2 folded. The player to my direct left who bet was playing almost every hand and getting very bet happy whenever i check after raising pre so i called his 10$ planning to call down reasonable bets. The turn was another 6 and he kindof blinked/ twitched. I checked he bet 15 in rather sloppy manner. As i was thinking his breathing suddenly picked up and his heart was visibly pounding/racing. I ended up folding and after he mucked he said "good fold i had an ace" which i think further suggests he had the 6 given he had shown 0 hands to me whenever i had folded a d never said anything about his holdings.
Sorry I missed your reply. It's not good to try to cold-read tells. It's better to observe them first from the sidelines, and use it later in the session. Different players have different motivations. Though most have the motivation of nervously wanting to get every last dollar out of a strong hand. So, I tend to think the player had the ace. But, maybe not because the overall strategy is to pick-up pots.

Many, many players do not lie about what they had, but they do exaggerate. Though this does not co-inside as much with the tricky platform, and if the fundamental motivation is to trick you, then this is more likely to be one of the few to lie about their hands.

I'd say it's very inconclusive as to what the player had, but an ace is plausible. The turn is potentially a spot to raise the turn and bluff out the weak aces, and collect the pot from the bluffs. But given the breathing tell, I'd be inclined to fold.

It's also more important to try to pick-up tells on players who drive the action, and you should be pro-active in your reading, and smart in who you pick to read, because you really can only focus on one or two players if you're developing a profile. I believe trying to read everyone in every mid-hand will have diminishing returns and will lead to a shorter session due to burn-out.
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Old 10-01-2017, 06:08 AM   #33
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I tend to think the trickster has the ace, because usually the trickster will be all too happy to show a bluff to foster his own ego, and the "good fold" is a way of coping with not winning a larger pot when he has it. This is of course very generic, and shouldn't be weighted too heavily.
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Old 10-01-2017, 08:34 AM   #34
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Either way, don't wear a tight fitting top (Van Hoof). Loads of breathing tells off him
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Old 11-15-2017, 04:07 PM   #35
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Strong hand IMO.
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Old 11-15-2017, 04:21 PM   #36
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