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Popular Poker Streamer Gripsed Accused of Botting (viewer counts) Popular Poker Streamer Gripsed Accused of Botting (viewer counts)

04-03-2016 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by strangerange
Again sir, for the 8th time, I am not FTHustla. Does your stomach tell you otherwise?

Well then now you know how the rest of us feel on here. Our stomachs say guilty as charged, but as the public defender, you come in here and stir up conversation around.

You have no proof of who I am, yet every comment you keep referring to me as potentially being the douchebag FTHustla.

You say you don't think it's impossible for many of the raid/host viewers to come to the stream, type something, then leave.

This is what I am talking about. We are saying something entirely different sir. We are saying they come there, don't say much, and stay there, for hours. Not as you put it, "leave."

New people come in and out is what you finish your sales pitch with. After the supposed host/raid the other day she had 530 viewers, there was a 7 viewer change within the hour. So you see, you're not really understanding what is being said, you continue saying complete nonsense. What we are saying here is, no one left after the raid. Whoa.

No evidence obviously, but the following statement is what my stomach tells me. You are providing the bots for the accused and come here defending your clients. Hence your passion in the thread. Again, a reg on the forums came in and summed up exactly what you're about/doing. You don't want this to end, you won't stop yapping.

My 7 cents.
Wow.

First of all, I stated in the first post I made in this thread that I have never charged anybody anything on Twitch. Literally never. Have helped hundreds of streamers. Not one of them has come forward to contradict this statement.

So implying somehow that I was responsible for this with zero evidence is not only ridiculous, it's beyond the pale for an acceptable debate. And if you want me to post less here, hurling baseless accusations at me runs counter to your goal.

If I am the public defender, then I am proud to be. I knew the minute this came forward that other streamers would be accused of this.

I have presented evidence and data. But there is a group of people who want to just have a witch hunt and assume people are guilty of things. Other people ran for cover. I knew I took a risk by posting here. But I did it because I thought it was the right thing to do.

I don't think with my stomach so I try to ignore what it tells me. I advise you to do the same. I have ignored that other reg who just made this about personal insults and not about facts. And now that you have done the same, consider yourself ignored as well.
04-03-2016 , 06:31 PM
Definitely think people need to closely read this article.

http://www.cracked.com/article_16239...ty-doomed.html

I showed people respect here, answering every question and not turning to grimy personal attacks. But people using dummy accounts here to spread lies and misinformation is completely unacceptable.
04-03-2016 , 06:34 PM
I also find it interesting that nobody has asked me for any more details about the actual streamers who hosted the most recent target of this witch hunt. Plenty of facts I presented here were flat out ignored. People who weren't even in the chat claim they know how many viewers were there every single minute!

That's OK though ... I don't expect people to let the facts get in the way of a good story.
04-03-2016 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ghost_of_m
I also find it interesting that nobody has asked me for any more details about the actual streamers who hosted the most recent target of this witch hunt. Plenty of facts I presented here were flat out ignored. People who weren't even in the chat claim they know how many viewers were there every single minute!

That's OK though ... I don't expect people to let the facts get in the way of a good story.
What facts have you presented that would clear up the reasons why every viewer that came in on a host/raid stayed there for hours? What evidence/facts can you present to tell exactly how this could be possible.

You're the one that showed us the wildhungarian graph, so technically, this is all your doing. Again, after the host/raid, all the viewers stayed.

You suggested, well people just left the stream up and tended to their business. Hence the reason no one left. Shenanigans sir.

As for the link? Good job deflecting sir.
04-03-2016 , 06:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by strangerange
What facts have you presented that would clear up the reasons why every viewer that came in on a host/raid stayed there for hours? What evidence/facts can you present to tell exactly how this could be possible.

You're the one that showed us the wildhungarian graph, so technically, this is all your doing. Again, after the host/raid, all the viewers stayed.

You suggested, well people just left the stream up and tended to their business. Hence the reason no one left. Shenanigans sir.

As for the link? Good job deflecting sir.
Well I can definitely say that your statement is totally untrue. I have no way to know how long a specific viewer is in chat, and nobody does except Twitch, because they can check the server data. How do you even try to make the paper argument that "every viewer in a host / raid stayed there for hours?"

My point was that 600 viewers out of 4000 is not a lot. They don't have to be the same viewers, and there's no evidence that they were. Somebody could have been viewing at 8PM, and somebody different could have been viewing at 9PM. People were coming in and out of the chat from the other stream during the whole thing. And you could even watch the other stream and see the streamers laughing about it.

I love the way you try to twist the other information I posted too. People are free to read ALL the prior threads, but as I know you will only twist things to fit your predetermined opinion any further discussion with you is pointless.
04-03-2016 , 07:35 PM
[QUOTE=ghost_of_m;49715415
My point was that 600 viewers out of 4000 is not a lot. [/QUOTE]

so what happened to the 4000 viewer host/raid you claim?

There should be a significant spike if there was a host of that magnitude.

Not just the 600 loyal you speak of.

Last edited by strangerange; 04-03-2016 at 07:58 PM.
04-03-2016 , 11:53 PM
Gripsed just dropped a donation in DannyN13's stream as he's running super deep in the Milly with less than 50 players left and him having 1850+ viewers. Wasn't that nice of him?
04-04-2016 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Grungehead
Gripsed just dropped a donation in DannyN13's stream as he's running super deep in the Milly with less than 50 players left and him having 1850+ viewers. Wasn't that nice of him?
Seems as if it is in his blood and he simply can't help it. cmonBruh
04-04-2016 , 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by strangerange
No I am not FTHustla. Would have answered that question earlier but I thought you guys were trolling. And anyone that differs from your guy's opinion would more than likely be FTHustla?

A bit baffling I must admit. So if I may ask again....

Do you think it's normal for 95% of viewers that came in on a raid/host to be there 2 hours later?

Glad to clear some things up here.

If I may sir, a quick search on twoplustwo forums for the words "if I may", in that order brings up the following. Syntax, it matters. Who says that bruh, i mean cmon, nobody else says that:

"[9/14/2015 9:09:41 PM] Nima Sayadi (FTHustla420): If I may, I believe the reason I was let go was not because of videos but becasue of how I react at tables. Why would you guys part ways with make up for someone not watching videos. I suppose its my fault. Along with pride, anger is another achilles of mine. I know you went out of your way for me. I'd never let you down intentionally. And I guess it was important for me to let you know that."

"[5/9/2015 8:57:50 PM] Nima Sayadi (FTHustla420): If I may"

"12-24-2015, 04:26 AM #40
PostFlopRepop
banned

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 156
FTHustla420 Issue
Pardon me, if I may.

Will not beat around the bush, I was banned from here some months ago for handling a situation childishly. I go by FTHustla420. Pride has been an Achilles heel of mine since I was yay high and I lost my cool with Demetri in this thread. If you read this, I apologize sir. I have issues at times."

"[9/14/2015 9:09:41 PM] Nima Sayadi (FTHustla420): If I may, I believe the reason I was let go was not because of videos but becasue of how I react at tables."

"12-26-2015, 12:41 PM #73
PostFlopRepop
banned

Ok guys, real quick if I may. Demteri emailed stars all this information and stars had temporarily blocked my stars account. I resent my verification in and told what had happened. They came to a decision that everything was cool and let me play again."

MEthinks Nima Sayadi = FTHustla420 = 3bethold = dankman247 = kushhero = PostFlopRepop = kholejoe = strangerange and he will never learn lesson about multi-accounting.

Now back tomy bighitter sexytime with Maryam giggity!
04-04-2016 , 01:53 PM
I noticed some other poker streams views way down over usual since this story broke. everyone is weening off the bots so they wont be the next gripsed.
04-04-2016 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Expedient
If I may sir, a quick search on twoplustwo forums for the words "if I may", in that order brings up the following. Syntax, it matters. Who says that bruh, i mean cmon, nobody else says that:

"[9/14/2015 9:09:41 PM] Nima Sayadi (FTHustla420): If I may, I believe the reason I was let go was not because of videos but becasue of how I react at tables. Why would you guys part ways with make up for someone not watching videos. I suppose its my fault. Along with pride, anger is another achilles of mine. I know you went out of your way for me. I'd never let you down intentionally. And I guess it was important for me to let you know that."

"[5/9/2015 8:57:50 PM] Nima Sayadi (FTHustla420): If I may"

"12-24-2015, 04:26 AM #40
PostFlopRepop
banned

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 156
FTHustla420 Issue
Pardon me, if I may.

Will not beat around the bush, I was banned from here some months ago for handling a situation childishly. I go by FTHustla420. Pride has been an Achilles heel of mine since I was yay high and I lost my cool with Demetri in this thread. If you read this, I apologize sir. I have issues at times."

"[9/14/2015 9:09:41 PM] Nima Sayadi (FTHustla420): If I may, I believe the reason I was let go was not because of videos but becasue of how I react at tables."

"12-26-2015, 12:41 PM #73
PostFlopRepop
banned

Ok guys, real quick if I may. Demteri emailed stars all this information and stars had temporarily blocked my stars account. I resent my verification in and told what had happened. They came to a decision that everything was cool and let me play again."

MEthinks Nima Sayadi = FTHustla420 = 3bethold = dankman247 = kushhero = PostFlopRepop = kholejoe = strangerange and he will never learn lesson about multi-accounting.

Now back tomy bighitter sexytime with Maryam giggity!
Ding Ding Ding! And I only thought it was the excessive use of "bruh" and "sir"; didn't notice that one...along with spewing negativity in the same writing style.

Some people just can't get enough of the hate and drama; it's worth all the time and accounts dedicated to be a part of it.
04-04-2016 , 03:43 PM
This is bull****, these accusations are unwarranted and I find them very offensive.

I am from the south, hence the grammar. If memory serves me correctly, FTHustla is from Georgia I believe. Well I grew up in Mobile, Alabama.

The words/phrases ya'll find unique here in 2p2 land, are absolutely standard in the south.

Can you guys please stop, I sorta feel like Gripsed right now. This is unfair.
04-04-2016 , 03:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by strangerange
This is bull****, these accusations are unwarranted and I find them very offensive.

I am from the south, hence the grammar. If memory serves me correctly, FTHustla is from Georgia I believe. Well I grew up in Mobile, Alabama.

The words/phrases ya'll find unique here in 2p2 land, are absolutely standard in the south.

Can you guys please stop, I sorta feel like Gripsed right now. This is unfair.
Didn't know he was from Georgia, but you sure do.
04-04-2016 , 04:05 PM
Honestly had no idea where he was from. Assumed he was from Toronto because to the best of my knowledge that's where he has been as long as I knew who he was.
04-04-2016 , 04:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by strangerange
This is bull****, these accusations are unwarranted and I find them very offensive.

I am from the south, hence the grammar. If memory serves me correctly, FTHustla is from Georgia I believe. Well I grew up in Mobile, Alabama.

The words/phrases ya'll find unique here in 2p2 land, are absolutely standard in the south.

Can you guys please stop, I sorta feel like Gripsed right now. This is unfair.
If I may sir, stop commenting, or stop dating your mother?
04-04-2016 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by limon
I noticed some other poker streams views way down over usual since this story broke. everyone is weening off the bots so they wont be the next gripsed.
I think some streamers (like Gripsed) have lower numbers because of the stigma and stench of this whole controversy.

I think other streamers are suffering from having to compete with more top flight players. New channels like UpswingPoker and TonkaaaaP are taking a larger and larger share of the prime time viewership. There used to be 2 streamers who regularly got 2K+ viewers, now there are at least 6 and arguably more.
04-04-2016 , 04:23 PM
Yesterday was insane with how many different streamers having 1k+ viewers in their channels. A lot of great runs and yes, the competition is fierce now with all the big boys playing. I feel the twitch poker audience will continue to grow as everyone finds who they really like and what fits for them.
04-04-2016 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ghost_of_m
Honestly had no idea where he was from. Assumed he was from Toronto because to the best of my knowledge that's where he has been as long as I knew who he was.
He has stated on his stream numerous times that he was from Atlanta. I knew this back in 2014 when he first started.

He's in Toronto for poker. cmonBruh
04-04-2016 , 06:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Expedient
If I may sir, stop commenting, or stop dating your mother?
Is that The Hustla's mother, wow, she is beautiful. The good genes have passed down to her son, no doubt.

How about we see a picture of your mother, pardon my chuckle, I have an idea of what she may look like. Rough life buddy, I am not praying for you to overcome your pathetic nature, I just sit here hoping to Baby Jesus you get whats coming to you.

Good luck sir.
04-04-2016 , 06:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by strangerange
This is bull****, these accusations are unwarranted and I find them very offensive.

I am from the south, hence the grammar. If memory serves me correctly, FTHustla is from Georgia I believe. Well I grew up in Mobile, Alabama.

The words/phrases ya'll find unique here in 2p2 land, are absolutely standard in the south.

Can you guys please stop, I sorta feel like Gripsed right now. This is unfair.
If I may sir, my apologies to both of ya'll [sic]. You are obviously Forrest Gump, and Postfloprepop surely must be Bubba Blue. I reckon Leutinant Dan is a da'rn nur spitti'n image of Gripsed too. If I ai'nt a monke'ys uncle!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhfXiqu-nzg
04-04-2016 , 06:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by strangerange
Is that The Hustla's mother, wow, she is beautiful. The good genes have passed down to her son, no doubt.

How about we see a picture of your mother, pardon my chuckle, I have an idea of what she may look like. Rough life buddy, I am not praying for you to overcome your pathetic nature, I just sit here hoping to Baby Jesus you get whats coming to you.

Good luck sir.
Yo'ur chuckle needs no pardon, good sir. My mother is also my mother in law, hence the slightly asymmetrical features.


http://imgur.com/DzltOTj
04-04-2016 , 06:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by strangerange
Again sir, for the 8th time, I am not FTHustla. Does your stomach tell you otherwise?

You have no proof of who I am, yet every comment you keep referring to me as potentially being the douchebag FTHustla.
And yet you know everything about him and followed his stream very closely and even complimented his appearance...
04-04-2016 , 07:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Expedient
Yo'ur chuckle needs no pardon, good sir. My mother is also my mother in law, hence the slightly asymmetrical features.
i just personally messaged mat sklansky about you. https://gyazo.com/aa3ed22234a7845661414b212dcfeb90 Even though I don't know fthustla personally posting a picture of his mother violates terms. On top of violating your soul way deep down. It's pathetic, its grotesque. It's sad even. Mods should be paying attention here.

You'll get whats coming bruh, i guarantee it. FThustla played 250 games last month and made 3k 8 abi.

why don't yall learn how to play poker. Instead of this.

Shout to you hustla if you read this.
04-04-2016 , 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by strangerange
i just personally messaged mat sklansky about you. https://gyazo.com/aa3ed22234a7845661414b212dcfeb90 Even though I don't know fthustla personally posting a picture of his mother violates terms. On top of violating your soul way deep down. It's pathetic, its grotesque. It's sad even. Mods should be paying attention here.

You'll get whats coming bruh, i guarantee it. FThustla played 250 games last month and made 3k 8 abi.

why don't yall learn how to play poker. Instead of this.

Shout to you hustla if you read this.
Yo'ure right, this has gone too far. I must come clean. I am your baba Pasha joon. It is my fault that I never taught you how to be a good boy. I love you azizam! Kear ahm to cozi!
Nah not bruh.
04-04-2016 , 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Expedient
Yo'ure right, this has gone too far. I must come clean. I am your baba Pasha joon. It is my fault that I never taught you how to be a good boy. I love you azizam! Kear ahm to cozi!
Nah not bruh.
Seems like you know him well, and you had access to photos others do not. Let me tell you what, you're in Colorado. Lets see what pops up.

      
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