Mr. Liang is too strong for you all

Just joined to watch, and wanted to start from the top of it.
In the PokerGo app/website it only lets me go back 3 hours, but on the youtube stream I can start from the beginning (4:40 hours back when I'm writing this).

Any reason for this @PokerGo?

They said on twitter the next day its fully available. I was wondering how far back you could go if you started late, thanks.

What is the reason players do like Mateos just did, 3b to 2.5M Pre instead of ship for 2.7M, What is holding back 1bb going to do?

We will look into this. Never heard of that issue before.

Could it be a Hellmuth like comeback?

It’s a thing in high rollers where in theory if someone calls and they go to showdown they can still see another hand and potentially rebuild their stack.

Chip and a chair.

Yea but a large 3bet preflop 3 handed that uses all your chips but 200k, which is only 1 bb.

If the opponent calls they are going to just re click pre to get you AI or bet the small amount on the flop. There is no way it goes all checks for all streets with 7M in pot and 1 guy only having 200k left in stack.

Didn't see the hand so not sure of how many players were left or the dynamic of the hand, but I see this happen a lot in a situation where villain 1 opens, hero 3 bets and leaves a tiny behind, villain 3 shove, villain 4 shoves, villain 1 calls. Now hero can fold and likely find a ladder or two.

Online I seen a player on the FT do that very same thing, but unfortunately for him when his opponent raised on a later street, he had connection problems, was disconnected and his hand was folded.

I just pulled it up, hand is at 5:12:45

3 handed Mateos is low chip man and in SB with 2.75M, blinds 100k/200k with bb ante 200k. Button opens for MR 400k, Mateos 3b to 2.55M leaving 200k back.

There is no scenario pre or post flop(if called) that Mateos is folding.

The scenario where Mateos could fold would be if the BB shoves and the button then calls. I see this happen all the time with the big Twitch streamers (Lex, Tonka, Finton etc.). I know it sounds ridiculous but it's a thing.

The idea is that Mateos is likely crushed and could ladder a very significant amount of money.

The only thing I don't understand is why these pros do this and only leave 1BB. I would think leaving a few BB's would accomplish the same thing.

Maybe the strategy is for BB to shove, BTN to call and then he can fold and hope the CL wins the AI and he ladders up to 2nd.

But based on pot odds he would still have to call no matter what he had, he did have AK anyway so there was zero chance he would ever fold, but the same would be true even if he did it with KJo and BB shoved based on huge pot odds.

That is wishful thinking to say the least. lol

I agree but I believe that is the reason they do this. MTT pros are a special breed ya kno.

I'm just saying I see the top pros do it ALL THE TIME. There's clearly something to it. They're some of the best in the world and are not doing it cause their stupid.

And yes, their intention is to fold so they can get a ladder.

The one I’ve seen more is the on 10BB stack put 4BBs in and never fold to a single re-jam but fold to a re-jam and call hoping to ladder…there has to be some (rare) scenarios where folding to a 1bb bet is correct on the turn or river…don’t know the spots but he’s the high-roller…

Surely it's the live poker [cash] 'strategy'???

That you are making the other chap raise the last BB - so you can call, and then be the last to show...

I'm not saying, if this is right, that is anything but a superstitious move on the players that do this.

Obviously in a cash game, you see a real 'benefit' in that at showdown you get to see what cards the other player had... and then if it's a crazy game - you can hide that you shoved aces [that got cracked] and increase your own 'crazy' image by folding them... and cursing that your lucky hand 83o normally never fails

Hmm...

Anyway - I always saw it as just a thing to do, to show you hand after the other person... I don't play tourneys but does the person who calls an all in - get to show their hand second always... I know it's only a few seconds difference but poker players do a lot of silly stuff for superstitious reasons...

Question for Mr/Ms PokerGO

Do you have the facility to show other final tables - if you want to?

I know you won't often... but if Daniel Negs, or Phil Hellmuth gets to a final table [Phil is currently 7th of the last 18 in the Omaha Hi-Lo 8 or Better Championship]

As those final tables would generate a lot of interest and views... you could run them without any commentary and they would likely get more viewers than the other final table - just because of the profile of DN and PH.

I know you would next to never run any extra [than scedualed] final tables... but theoritcally can you in extreme situations. I mean contractually are you able to? Physically is it possible? Would they need to be shown without cards revealed?

As if we get a final table like that - I am sure your viewers would like to see it, and I would think it will bring you some new subscribers too.

Mr/Ms PokerGo, I have a full subscription myself - I would just not want to miss such a final table, and I thank you for answering this question. Even though I expect the answer to be, 'it's just not possible because of the set up'

Thanks anayway

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Event #8: $600 NLH Deepstack Airs on Wednesday, October 6, at 5 p.m. PT.

The second stream of the 2021 WSOP kicks off today with cards in the air at 4 p.m. PT and the PokerGO stream beginning at 5 p.m. PT.

The final five players are guaranteed $76,974 but are chasing the $281,604 first-place prize.

Final Table
Seat 1: Chrishan Sivasundaram - 31,500,000
Seat 2: Nicholas Zautra - 15,000,000
Seat 3: Zhi Wu - 46,100,000
Seat 4: Ryan Chan - 29,200,000
Seat 5: Ari Mezrich - 13,900,000

Watch here: https://www.pokergo.com/videos/20543...7-330e71ee01b4

We technically can stream another final table by moving it into the Thunderdome.

However, the logistics involved including stats, graphics, switching the table and RFID readers (when going from NLH to Omaha or mixed), and of course scheduled crew and staff that are the backbone of the entire operation.

We did look at a stripped-down version of a stream that could possibly go on YouTube, but unfortunately we couldn't make it work for this WSOP.

Thanks

So if PH/DN get to a final table that's not one of your scheduled streams... I'll just have to jump on a plane... travel the 6k miles... and stand behind them and watch/do my own commentary

Thanks again for the answer... I think [in the future] even a basic [no hole cards/poorly lit set/no commentary] stream for those occasions [when a very popular final table happens... like if Norman Chad makes one... as you can explain it's a bonus, and why it's 'stripped down'

Anyway I'm sure you know this anyway... and hopefully it will be possible for 2022

Thanks again x

Down to HU in 40 minutes. lol

They just panned over to the Hellmuth final, why can't you just go over there after this quick match is over??