Or maybe, they had already agreed a split of the pot, had large pieces of each other etc and were ready to go?

This was my thought too.

Occums Razor applies here I think. They agreed to a chop of some type and flipped for a bracelet. Thats kinda the only way to justify BOTH the shove and call off. (calling off 70bb with KJs seems even more nuts than the shove imo)

I didn't see the hand live in context though. Was there a break before the hand happened or had they been playing a couple hrs by that point?

Nah it wasn't a chop, Addamo tanked for 1min before calling and Bonomo said something along the lines of "this is a big pot".

Also KJs is a standard call, winning about 2bb in my sim (don't forget there is a BB ante). T9o also "only" losing 0.5bb as a jam, and can easily become winning if Addamo is over-aggressive with 3bets (as I explain in the video).

good stuff man, subbed

Are we (or Bonomo) really expecting Addamo to be over 3betting HU here?

These guys may have certain exploitable leaks, but I cant imagine that pf 3bet frequency is going to be one of them. Their leaks are going to be in obscure postflop situations that rarely come up, not something as standard as HU 3bet ranges.


Is your sim an actual solution for 70bb with a bb ante? Seems like it is for 50bb no ante and you are assuming that they are the same because the SPR is the same? But thats not accurate because the pf ranges for those situations are going to be different.


Bottom line is Addamo needs 41.7% equity to call off. Against a range of AK,AQ,AJ, 22-JJ he has 42.0%. So yea I guess he probably has barely enough equity to make a call, but its basically a high variance breakeven spot that I guess you only take when you are HU with someone just as good as you.

I am still leaning toward a chop agreement of some kind. Maybe they are playing only for the bracelet. WSOP doesn't facilitate chops so we will never know of course. I just dont see this hand playing out the same way if they are playing for $432k

Thanks!

I don't know, there's lots of low frequency mixes with offsuit combos, so I can see someone as aggressive as Addamo going out of line, especially in a live setting where you can't just click on a button to rng. There also might be certain dynamics that we don't know about, but at this point I'm just speculating of course.

Yes the sim is 70bb with bb ante, I even ran with/without ICM but there was no difference. KJs is winning 2bb as a call, that's quite significant in my book!

I think a chop is definitely possible (in my above post I actually meant it wasn't a flip), but you're right that we'll probably never know!

It looks like a very bad jam, it kind off makes zero sense to me. I dont think its up for discussion really wether it's good or bad.

However I find it somehow relevant and interesting that he seems a lot better playing preflop when playing online

https://twitter.com/dklappin/status/1308023123212726273

Still a bit funny he made one of the worst preflop plays i have seen but apparently one of the best as well. Don't think many regs would call KJ there but could be wrong.