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Originally Posted by RaiseAgainst
I do think it's weird he repeatedly said he doesn''t really have the personality to be an entertaining poker streamer; his personality and reactions are the reason he became so in the first place and in my view he's been the most entertaining poker streamer so far.
I said I don't have the personality/knowledge to be a >successful< poker streamer. If you want to stream full-time, you have to earn some money with the streaming.
The reason I have/had viewers is because of my gaming/Twitch history, I have 70k followers and of course many of them watch me for anything I do, including poker.
For poker, people didn't come to my stream because they genuinely enjoy it, they came to make fun about me or laugh about losing days etc. No one of the poker viewers ever donated to my stream, or subscribed to it (all the subscribers are from gaming).
Why do so many people subscribe to other streamers, like JCarver or Staples? Because people GENUINELY enjoy their streams/are being entertained by them, because they feel like they learn a lot in terms of strategy and they want to support them so they can keep streaming full-time. People become fans of them, interact with them on social media, follow them etc.
For me? People don't even follow my stream, they just watch sometimes and laugh. But most will never follow, and even more will never support the stream endeavor.
It's definitely possible to make a living with streaming poker, for example Staples mentioned he got more from Twitch this year than from poker winnings (which is a big number as a well-earning poker pro). If you check his donations listed on his page, his smallest donation is already multiple times bigger than the biggest I have ever received with Poker, and he has 300 times more monthly subscribers from Poker than me (600 vs 2).
I actually earned more from Poker winnings this month than from streaming, which is pretty sad considering I'm a recreational player and I only play 2 tables while I stream.
My poker stream went in the wrong direction since day 1, there has been much more negativity than positive reactions/support. You might not even notice it, because you are either part of it or because the messages get timed out, but chat is constantly spammed with:
* "Omfg where is [Jcarver/Staples], I can't watch this **** anymore!
* This is the worst poker stream I've ever seen, don't know how anyone would sub/donate to this at all.
* Play some 6-max $1000 hypers again to win the losses back.
* [Insert any all-in situation here]: "Worst play."
Not even gonna mention that 99 % of the PMs I received were hate/telling me to kill myself or stop streaming poker.
I would make more money playing off-line 8-tabling some low-stakes SnGs/MTTs, but I love my stream and that's why I went back to gaming (will still stream poker occasionally, maybe once every 2 months).