Nice facts are facts

lol^

keep doing your thing jaime.

f the haterz

I'm not hating, some of you guys are weirdos. I thought maybe his ROI was ~21% but I don't have all of the facts(numbers) So when someone shows up to the party with facts I have to take my estimated value and toss it down the ****ter.

I will say Jaime has some loyal fans who rival the likes of the Barbz and beyhive.

They would be idiots because they are getting a horrible price for their sweat. They are idiots in the same way people who bet with Sky Bet (UK Bookmaker) are. They can have a sweat and get value for money just by shopping around a little.

But no, they want to feel they are part of something, to be fair they are a part of something. They are a consumer supporting a business. Just like they are when they go shopping, except they are going to the most expensive shop they can find.

I repeat though, fair play to Jaime, his part of the business is to exploit his customers proclivities.

It's kind of cute, the whole fanboy reaction to any criticism, or perception of criticism. They truly believe they are more than consumers.

Have heard that there's something of a market-wide trend, of people being willing to buy staking shares at a rate of mark-up that's higher than the rate of return?


Although something that's different from most people in Jaime's case, is that he streams on twitch. And while there's a chance people might be going crazy over 'celebrity' or whatever, it also seems very possible (possibly even more likely) that people are choosing to pay a higher rate for pieces of his action as an alternative way to support a stream that they're enjoying? Like rather than pay for a monthly subscription for $5, and have Jaime only receive $2.50 since Twitch takes a 50% cut, or make a donation where Jaime has to pay tax ... maybe people just prefer to donate a portion of his buy-ins?


Twitch has arguably been the most interesting thing to happen to poker in the last year - it's been fascinating, to be able to follow the daily ins-and-outs of a tourney grind ...

I noticed that Jamie always gets a little saltier after he gets a haircut.

Lack of Nicotine doesn't help much

Patron is the answer my friend

Jaime and his mods have definitely been extra salty lately. You can tell that the downswing plus twitch chat is really getting to him. He seems like a really nice guy but really needs some thicker skin. I've been a casual fan since the beginning and got snap permabanned from talking in his channel because of one silly little joke. Still wish you all the best, Jaime, but I wish you would embrace the nature of Twitch a little more and just block out the noise instead of internalizing it.

I'll still keep watching because my baby girl seems to really like hearing your voice at nap time. Best of luck to you.

I agree with this for the most part. Jaime has seemed like he is just sick of the trolls lately, most likely due to the downswing. He used to be really level headed and relaxed all the time, answering everybodys questions. Now he ignore pretty much everybody but his hardcore followers and lashes out on anybody that comes close to trolling. I dont have a vested interest in this or care as I dont comment on twitch, but this has been my observations.

He seems to have lost the plot tbh. Not hard to see why. I looked at this stats and he is up 50k euro in 5 years and he is claiming he a poker pro. Thats like 10k a year which is less than social welfare lol. most of the chat seems to have coped on to this and he cant seem to handle it. When someone mentions his poor winnings he goes on about the cash game he won when he was such a dog in its ridiculous and then he brings up how bad he is running and refuses to accept he is playing bad.

Wonder if stars will keep him on. If not cant see him lasting. His ego too big to drop down. Only thing he has going still is selling his action to people who don't understand poker so he has some hope

You guys seem to think that Jaimes income is solely based on what he wins on Pokerstars. He is an ambassador for several products and companys and expanding. Jaime has a very sensible business head and you can see he is fully focussed on milking it even down to tiny things like making his own tshirts and so he should.
Along side the income from these company's he has contracts with he receives income from subscribers and donations. Additionally he has started selling action online where viewers are snapping up his action and even bidding at a price where if jaime busts a game he can still make a profit because of the mark up.
With PokerStars reaching more out to recreational players over its already based regulars Jaime has a very good future whether or not he has a losing year on the tables this is down to his recreational friendly and educational persona.

lol he is claiming to be a poker pro. He has won 50 k in 5 years with zero cashes in live. Take away his 2 big 109 wins he is basically a losing player. He has obv done well with his streaming but he should stop telling everyone he a pro now. People in chat are saying the going to quit college etc to follow him into been some baller poker player when jaime has won 10 k a year.

Being a "poker pro" is a self-defining term so not sure why anyone should get hung up on that. And Jaime is definitely a winning player since he started his Twitch stream almost exactly one year ago.

And Jaime is striving to do his utmost to make his Twitch stream the best it can be for him and his viewers. Nothing at all wrong with that.

Having said that Jaime does seem to have been a bit "salty" lately, but he is on a downswing so he is entitled to a bit of salt, especially given how much "sunshine" he typically (99% of the time) brings to the stream.

Echoing the guy who posted just a few posts before mine, I was recently "de-modded" for some alleged infraction which I have no idea I committed. I have been a supporter of Jaime and the stream since the early days (recommending him as a Pokercast guest) and also wish him nothing but the best.

I don't think he's a winning player. I don't think he's running bad, if that's what a downswing is. If there is any run-bad I don't think it's helpful for anyone to focus on it especially Jaime.

If you care about Jaime, I think the best advice would be for him to focus on getting better at poker. He's in the middle of 8 poker tournaments and he's sharing his Social Media Calendar with his viewers. I think his focus would be better spent on studying, coaching, poker videos, etc. rather than on growing the business. The business will come if the product (poker-playing) is good.

I see him make lots of mistakes which twitch chat ignores. Twitch chat is almost all results-oriented nonsense. I think unless your game is super solid it's probably hard to focus on what's important given the feedback he has to tolerate while he's playing.

Unfortunately for his viewers he doesn't share much of his mental decision-making dialogue, so it's hard to judge his poker ability. But what he does share it's often dead-wrong.

I think he has to re-evaluate showing his hole cards.

How good do you have to be to overcome that advantage given to your opponents. He only plays one discipline of poker and plays in the same tournaments weekly.

His opponents know his ranges. They have so much data on his 3 bet range, opening range, how he is betting the river and at some point that cuts into your profit.

I could be wrong and maybe he plays hands on screen differently then off screen to help mask this.

Just an observation from what twitch chat would call a salty hater

What's crazy is the amount of donations the gamers pull in. $75k+ a year in donations to the top streamers.

Hey all,

You are definitely right. I haven't been the best with handling criticism these last couple weeks. Quitting nicotine is really hard and I don't have that crutch to rely on when people criticize me. I now understand how much I relied on it to remain level headed and it's something I'm trying to live without now. I am doing my best but it is hard. I'm struggling with it.

By the way it's totally cool if you want to talk back and fourth about my stream with other people here. That said, if anyone ever has a direct question, post it here and I will do my best to answer it as fast as I can.



You were probably caught in the aforementioned crossfire. Sorry about that, I would like to undo it. Post your twitch name here or in PM

Thanks for the continued support man. I'll strive to be better going forward.

This is a major source of income for a lot of streamers but a little overblown for poker. The "tipping/donating" culture is not as established as it is in the rest of twitch. Here are my donation numbers:

Donation amount 2015: $10,400.81
total donations: 1230
paypal fees: (30c*1230)+($10,400*0.029)= $670.60
Total: $9730.21
Hours Broadcast: 1517
$ per hour: $6.41
This is less then 0.01c per person per hour.

So for the select few massive streamers they are making an average of $100-200 an hour from donations alone. That is not representative of the rest of the poker community, or even the Twitch community at large.

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Regarding the professional player/winning player comments, I don't really have a lot to say. It is true I am up a measly 26K this year but it is my first year as a professional player and I have progressed from an ABI of $15 to around $60. Yes 30K of that is from a HS cash game but 30K of losses is also from a 10K a 5K 3 2Ks and at least 30 1Ks. That's sort of how tournament player's years work I think (at least large field low volume players.) There is some learning to do absolutely but I think I am on the right track and still consider myself a professional poker player first.

Anyways thanks to you all for the support and hope to see you in the stream tomorrow.

Jaime

Keep doing your thing Jamie.

Solid post, and respect for quitting the vape.

Hey Jamie, do you plan to continue to promote this disgraceful corporation that is in the process of destroying the poker economy, and stealing from SNE players? or will you choose treat your viewers with some dignity, and talk about whats happening with the VIP system changes?

(edited out bonus anger)

kappa

Excellent, well articulated post.
Perhaps you can make an income as a writer after the poker economy gets destroyed.

His employer is intentionally damaging online poker and you want to talk about articulation? its time to take a stand. its time to take a side. and by staying silent like jamie is, he taking THEIR side. All the while continuing to promote them, and drain even more money from the economy.

its time to get mad, not to check our ****ing grammar or our attitude. thats why i say **** you to jamie. if he really cared about poker players or his supporters he stand up and say something by now.

he is not doing anything, and continuing to get paid by stars - this is what makes him a corporate shill whore.

Jaime is just a "Friend of Pokerstars" He has nothing to do with the decissions made @ Pokerstars.
I don´t think even the official Members of Team Pro knew whats coming, that was stuff done by greedy Bastards in the headquarter.
So don´t give him the blame or think he could stand up.

99.9% of Jaimes fans will not care about the changes, some % will be US based, the rest aren't playing at levels where this will hit the hardest. So Jaime preaching to his fans about the whole thing would be kind of pointless. Those people aren't motivated and a call to arms would be a waste.

Jaime is, I think, dependent on three main sources of income. His day job of poker, his sponsorship and finally the donations from people who watch the stream. Some degree of the continuing attraction for those who watch his stream will be due to the sponsorship, 99.9% of his attractiveness to Stars is his twitch following.

I think laying into Jaime for this issue is wide of the mark, he hasn't made his money yet. The likes of Negreanu who have made their money; then lazily schilled the site no matter what, they should be the focus of people's ire.

Would have to agree here. As an MTT pro these changes are even less concerning to Jamie. MTTers will be hit the least by far. Jamie is also heavily dependent on twitch money (ad money and donations) and whatever Stars money he gets. Not trying to belittle him at all, he freely admits his poker earnings are small, its a tough game today. So really you cant expect him to go off on stars and risk anything.

While the changes themselves are, for a lack of a better term, harsh, its the way they were announced along with the lying, not honoring sne next year ect. that is the issue. Maybe he could speak to that point but who knows. DNegs I dont believe is happy about how things have played out and will be posting about it very soon, guess well have to wait and see....