There are several things wrong here.

In any event, your opinion has been duly noted.

+1

They are buying a sweat. They are not making an "investment" so it should not be judged as such.

No one is twisting arms to bid on the offer. Free market and its all good.

Ok, if you think I'm hating, that is cool.

I just think it is dirty. There's a sucker born every minute but that doesn't mean you need to participate.

To me, it feels different for professional poker players to accept donations. I understand the desire for some people to support the stream and the need for them to feel like they are part of something. That is what subscriptions are for. At least there is some perceived value there. Silly emotes and chat privelages or whatever.

Don't get me wrong Jamie, You are seemingly a nice guy and this doesn't mean you are ****ty. I think you need to think about it a bit more.

Somerville, clearly the biggest poker streamer, sets the example. He could probably rake in several thousand dollars a month if he accepted donations. He directs those that ask to subscribe if they want to support. At least they get something for that.

I appreciate you taking the time to lay out your reasoning.

He said that he get emails all the all the time for people requesting action. Why wouldn't he offer a small piece then? He's in a few seemingly lose/lose situation

I've made no comment regarding selling action. Did not even know he was doing that until it was mentioned in this thread.

Nah

At first when i learned of the prices people were paying for Jamie i was kind of angry. I voiced my opinion of it in his chat and I was immediately labeled a hater by his cult like following.

I've since come to understand his side and the reality of it is he is selling a max of 10% of a $1000 tournament. So in the end i decided if these people are donating $ then they are better off getting a piece of him i guess.

FWIW the people in his chat who are blind loyalist can SMD

That's the best I can hope for haha.

I feel that's disingenuous. Jaime does dictate the price he just seems to want the highest possible price regardless of value. He could offer stakes without MU to his subs. He could offer stakes at a reasonable MU on a first come first served basis or just to his subs.

I would really enjoy your twitter much more if it was all genuinely about you and not that much generic content. Maybe that's just me, but i don't need another corporate account that is operated after the model in every "how to socialmedia" book. Those pokergifs are funny for the first few times but it gets old pretty quick. IMO your strategy should focus more on beeing you, and less on building a brand.


Anyway, i really enjoy your streams and the social media stuff is just a small detail in the big picture.

A business will always sell to its customers at the highest possible price they can.

It kind of reminds me of ebay a little, I mostly sell video games if selling anything at all, but people are prepared to pay way more than they should do for a second hand game. They compete against each other because they want to win. I've sold games on ebay at a 25% profit from what I bought it at on Amazon.

It's clever of Jaime to exploit his customers in this way. They think they have won just by getting a piece, if he actually cashes and they get something back, they feel like they have won twice and they repeat the process again.

Nah

I find it interesting to watch Jamie get saltier and saltier with people in chat.
Not that I blame him.

I predict he will adopt a permanent salty side personality in the not too distant future.

If he can pull it off with a sense of humor I believe he will become even more popular.
Tell a dumb mofo off , but do it with wit, snark and a smile.

He seems to get angrier and angrier the more he loses.

Imagine that...............

That's when he berates the rail. He should stop streaming if he wants to be a serious player as everyone can see his current thought processes, such as they are. He has become very easy to read.

Lol, leave your bedroom and enter the real World. He owes nothing to anyone and can do as he pleases. Just another dullard who act like poker and 2p2 is all the exists. His fans ask for something so he provided it.

A large percentage of money for subscriptions goes to twitch and not to the streamer.

Jamie, clearly explains the auction process here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKl6Z98camU

Nobody can participate who doesn't have a pokerstars account. He's only selling to people who can watch him play, and are also poker players themselves.

I've sure that you'll be ecstatic to know that you don't need to worry about people not understanding what they're getting themselves into by participating in the auctions. You can go save the world elsewhere.

when does this poker stream usually run during the week? i work 7am eastern to 530pm eastern and when i get home and fire up the laptop he usually not streaming or is playing some random game on the stream. is obv answer streams poker while im working hahaha?

I find it hilarious seeing people complain about Jaime taking donations and selling action at large markups....half of you would sell your soul for a $100 let alone not do what Jaime is doing.

If people are willing to donate and pay 2.5 markup, more power to him....nothing wrong about it in my opinion.

All these mother Teresa's in here....sheesh.

I don't have problems with him taking money from idiot customers.

The summing up crap at the end, direct to the camera, I find that a little cringeworthy, I'm not sure what the focus groups/psychology books say about it but I don't find it sincere.

People are mad because he offered 10% of a $100 tournament via an auction and it went for $25, oh dear.

Not everyone is living their life trying to make every decision as +EV as possible. (Hence the ability to make money at poker)

Twitch is one of the best ROI's in terms of entertainment for price.

Why would they be idiots? Do you think those people are in it for the purpose of making money or just for fun/sweat? What serious investor would pay 150% markup on anyone whose ROI is in the mid-teens? They probably just want to have a better time watching the stream and root for a guy they like.

Problem nowadays is that every decision we don't agree with, name calling and insults have to be thrown around at people doing something we don't approve of.

You think his ROI is in the mid teens?

To be fair, that's what it is according to sharkscope.

Total ROI: 15.6%
http://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-St...s/jaimestaples