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Jaime Staples gains PokerStars sponsorship. Jaime Staples gains PokerStars sponsorship.

04-26-2016 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mrno1324
- Jamie got called out for lying about how much he earnt from poker
- said it was 150k in 6 years but there's evidence it's only 30k
- markets himself as a good player when in fact he's break even. He gets money from twitch subs and ridiculous coaching for which he charges $150/h
but
- two threads got deleted (which shouldn't happen in NVG?)
- OP offered him a €1k freeroll just to prove he made 150k from poker. As I said before who wouldn't jump at this easy €1k if they have nothing to hide?
- He never replied. I asked him to reply when he showed up to wcg stream, he has his head buried in sand.
Jaime insists that he won 100k playing live cash in local cardrooms but that he can't prove it. This sounds doubtful but it's a side issue for me. He is obviously a break even player online. Looking at his OPR stats he is successful at $5-$20 games, roughly break even at $60-$200 and a big loser at $200+. He would have made twice as much if he had stuck to the $5-$20 games. He shouldn't really be offering marked up staking packages or expensive coaching at games he can't beat himself. I wouldn't as a matter of ethics.
04-26-2016 , 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JS77
He shouldn't really be offering marked up staking packages or expensive coaching at games he can't beat himself. I wouldn't as a matter of ethics.
Butbut you must remember the value of entertainment and to his audience he is THE MAN.
04-26-2016 , 08:14 AM
His younger brother might pass him in lifetime earnings this year!
04-26-2016 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TheAlmighty1ne
His younger brother might pass him in lifetime earnings this year!
Huge Matty Staples fanboy here...he's learning the game real quick and really seems to genuinely appreciate his audience and wins.. Almost how Jamie was when he first started streaming before he felt so entitled.

Staying humble and true to yourself if one of the keys to success in all aspects of life.
04-26-2016 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TheAlmighty1ne
His younger brother might pass him in lifetime earnings this year!
Would be hilarious if that grindhouse happens with that martin dude, young staples, tonkaaa and stapler. Stapler is a stars pro and by far the worst player at the moment from that crew.
04-26-2016 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
Would be hilarious if that grindhouse happens with that martin dude, young staples, tonkaaa and stapler. Stapler is a stars pro and by far the worst player at the moment from that crew.


Really like younger staples.
04-26-2016 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AguaPorFavor
Really like younger staples.
I watched him when he started out. He seemed to have a good instinct for the game so it wouldn't surprise me if he turned out to be better than Jaime.
04-26-2016 , 10:57 AM
Yeah 1st I was like who is stupid enough to call himself his brothers pa but guess he ain't that stupid after all. Would be cool if he makes a living from poker in the future and can say yeah I just deposited 8$ and started streaming.
04-26-2016 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
Yeah 1st I was like who is stupid enough to call him his brothers pa but guess he ain't that stupid after all. Would be cool if he makes a living from poker in the future and can say yeah I just deposited 8$ and started streaming.


And he only played on Pokerstars, unlike Jaime Staples who having losing graphs on all other sites.
04-26-2016 , 12:47 PM
jamie staples lil bro is way worse than jamie lol. 2x as annoying.
04-26-2016 , 02:08 PM
While some may call me a staples hater, I think you guys are being way to hard on the guy.

He did the right thing by suspending doing auctions for his action. But him selling 20% of himself for 1.16 to allow his fans to feel like they are part of the stream is 100% fine. I've recently been more active in the selling and buying of shares and it is a ****ing headache paying people out and getting paid /calculating refunds etc.

One thing I can't fathom is why do you guys care about his money? Didn't your fathers teach you not to worry about another mans dick or wallet?

It's clear to everyone his numbers in twitch have dropped with some other people now in the listing. You can tell by that sad ****ing video he made that he knows it as well. There are about 6,000 poker viewers during the week that are up for grabs that have to be split up between 6 or 7 people. There is going to have to be some creative schedule making going forward.

Imo twitch should suspend all accounts streaming content that they don't own.

Jaime if you ever need an unbiased opinion I'll be glad to give it to.


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04-26-2016 , 04:18 PM
I feel like this thread has devolved into a vocal minority who are jealous of the success someone has and are just here to circle jerk each other off about it, spouting exaggerated numbers and lies they either made up or heard from someone else.

I don't know why Jaime wastes his time trying to cater to the hate in this thread when most of the people don't deserve his attention at all.
04-26-2016 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TreadLightly
I feel like this thread has devolved into a vocal minority who are jealous of the success someone has and are just here to circle jerk each other off about it, spouting exaggerated numbers and lies they either made up or heard from someone else.

I don't know why Jaime wastes his time trying to cater to the hate in this thread when most of the people don't deserve his attention at all.
This.

Jamie is a nice kid. He did a great job marketing himself. He isn't deceiving people.

Get focused Jamie. Ignore these distractions, put your head down and go to work.
04-26-2016 , 10:46 PM
Most of the hate is pure bullying/jealousy.

I'm probably in the minority who prefer the youtube highlight videos and don't really watch twitch.

I do think Kevin Martin will become a more successful twitcher than Jaime in the long run if his results improve. His personality shows better. I wish them all luck though
04-26-2016 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bbbbb33
This.

Jamie is a nice kid. He did a great job marketing himself. He isn't deceiving people.

Get focused Jamie. Ignore these distractions, put your head down and go to work.

Jaime is a relentless promoter of himself and of Pokerstars but why is that a good thing ? He is deceiving people. There is a massive gulf between how good he says he is and his results. He has the results of a competent micro/low stakes player who is out of his depth in the mid and high stakes. The numbers don't lie he lacks credibility as a poker player.

Last edited by JS77; 04-26-2016 at 11:56 PM. Reason: .
04-27-2016 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JS77
Jaime is a relentless promoter of himself and of Pokerstars but why is that a good thing ? He is deceiving people. There is a massive gulf between how good he says he is and his results. He has the results of a competent micro/low stakes player who is out of his depth in the mid and high stakes. The numbers don't lie he lacks credibility as a poker player.
Let's just say for the sake of argument, which obviously is what you are looking for considering your account was made this month and you are either too afraid to post on your main account or you are new to the scene and jealous; either one, that Jaime was a "bad player" , isn't it a good thing that he is marketing pokerstars to a broad audience and teaching all these new players "bad" play for them to emulate or try to emulate? Helping poker grow is a good thing for everybody & no matter what his results or skill is he deserves all the success he is getting from his streaming platform and pokerstars partnership.

For what it's worth he is a pokerstars pro + obviously doing something right , and on top of it is clearly a winning poker player + i am yet to see him brag or try to sell himself for huge markups based on his skill. He has admitted himself it is an auction format no? High demand drives prices up, he deserves to sell at a higher markup than some random mid stakes "pro" who talks to no one and makes a post on forums wanting to sell action.

just my 2 ¢
04-27-2016 , 02:27 AM
Ref markups-

What kind of mark-up do you think people would pay, for popular pros like Ivey, Negreanu, etc., if it were offered? Even with the higher than normal markup, wouldn't it be comparable to betting on your favorite sport team, nascar driver, golfer, etc., even though the odds are terrible? I know it doesn't make it a good bet, but people will still bet for their enjoyment anyway.
04-27-2016 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Edgelooker1
Ref markups-

What kind of mark-up do you think people would pay, for popular pros like Ivey, Negreanu, etc., if it were offered? Even with the higher than normal markup, wouldn't it be comparable to betting on your favorite sport team, nascar driver, golfer, etc., even though the odds are terrible? I know it doesn't make it a good bet, but people will still bet for their enjoyment anyway.
Ivey and Negreanu have some genuine poker achievements to their name and they don't auction stakes in themselves to the highest bidders. When people bet on nascar, golf, football or whatever they get reasonable odds or even profitable odds if they are good at spotting value. It is not illegal for losing players* like Jaime to auction bids based on the fact that others think that he is a winner but it's not very ethical imo.

* Jaime is a losing player at the packages he offers.

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04-27-2016 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TreadLightly
Let's just say for the sake of argument that Jaime was a "bad player" , isn't it a good thing that he is marketing pokerstars to a broad audience and teaching all these new players "bad" play for them to emulate or try to emulate? Helping poker grow is a good thing for everybody & no matter what his results or skill is he deserves all the success he is getting from his streaming platform and pokerstars partnership.

For what it's worth he is a pokerstars pro + obviously doing something right , and on top of it is clearly a winning poker player

No it is not a good thing. He is doing Pokerstars' work for them (well I suppose they do pay him for it) by promoting the idea that poker is for entertainment and that players SHOULD lose. Pokerstars made him a pro because he reaches people via his twitch stream. Jaime seems to act only out of self-interest. He only posted on here to "grow his brand" as he readily admitted on his last stream.

Jaime is not a winning player above $20 buy ins. He is competent below that. That's what his results show.
04-27-2016 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JS77
No it is not a good thing. He is doing Pokerstars' work for them (well I suppose they do pay him for it) by promoting the idea that poker is for entertainment and that players SHOULD lose. Pokerstars made him a pro because he reaches people via his twitch stream. Jaime seems to act only out of self-interest. He only posted on here to "grow his brand" as he readily admitted on his last stream.

Jaime is not a winning player above $20 buy ins. He is competent below that. That's what his results show.
Actually, most of the people I see in chat ask him about playing for a living and look like they take (or at least want to take) the game seriously.
04-27-2016 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JS77
Jaime is a relentless promoter of himself and of Pokerstars but why is that a good thing ? He is deceiving people. There is a massive gulf between how good he says he is and his results. He has the results of a competent micro/low stakes player who is out of his depth in the mid and high stakes. The numbers don't lie he lacks credibility as a poker player.
What makes this wrong?

He lacks credibility to who?

Why do you take so much time crusading against him?
04-27-2016 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bbbbb33
What makes this wrong?

He lacks credibility to who?

Why do you take so much time crusading against him?
We all have our own values. I wouldn't sell for Pokerstars as it is now or pretend to be better than I am out of personal integrity. If you don't win much money playing poker and you never have done then you can't call yourself a top player or even a very good one.
04-27-2016 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JS77
We all have our own values. I wouldn't sell for Pokerstars as it is now or pretend to be better than I am out of personal integrity. If you don't win much money playing poker and you never have done then you can't call yourself a top player or even a very good one.
Well I can see your values and integrity led you to create a new account to hide behind and spew criticism and negativity. Every single one of your posts is in this thread so it's obvious you are pursuing a vendetta against Jaime. Even the mods here had to delete threads and ban accounts that were in this circle jerk of hate because it happened to be the same person.

Nothing wrong with disliking a streamer and not agreeing with them, but there's a simple solution to that. Don't watch. And please don't give us the BS about you caring about his fans enjoying a sweat that they can actually watch and be a part of because everyone knows your goal is to tear him down and it's not about saving people from a bad investment.

There's a reason all the top players and streamers have respect for Jaime and don't echo your hate spew; it's because Jaime is a fellow poker player who loves the game like we all do and branched that passion out to thousands of new viewers for their enjoyment. He's earned his spot that he carved out for himself, and even on Doug Polk's stream he commented on that very same sentiment and had to silence the people hating on Jaime because he knows he's a genuinely good guy.

If you're mad because you feel he's overestimating his abilities...well then welcome to the poker world; most if not all players do the same and that's what keeps it so competitive. He's not profiting off his image of being good, he's making a living because he created a quality stream at the start of the twitch poker boom. Again...it's easy for you to hide behind a gimmick account and criticize someone else, but Jaime has to face it like a man and show his face to thousands of people. That takes heart and yes dude, no one is perfect. Pick another crusade to fight because there are actual bad people in poker but Jaime is not one of them.
04-27-2016 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Nocturnity
If you're mad because you feel he's overestimating his abilities...well then welcome to the poker world; most if not all players do the same and that's what keeps it so competitive. He's not profiting off his image of being good...
Low stakes players tend to be honest about their abilities and achievements. Some high stakes winners have an ego but Jaime's not one of them he's a low stakes winner (under $20). He is clearly exaggerating to make himself look more credible and attractive to those watching his stream. He may be genuinely deluding himself about his ability but in that case those who are being honest on here are doing him a service.

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04-27-2016 , 06:10 PM
JS,
You have been droning on with the same message for days now. You have been heard, you have made your points. Now please give it a rest and move on.

      
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