Sometimes when you are watching Joey, Joey is watching you. I would know it happened to me. It was like 'Inception' Joey said. But I think it was more like 'Being John Malkovich' because for a second or two I'm pretty sure I was Joey Ingram! Don't do drugs kids.
Sometimes when you are watching Joey, Joey is watching you. I would know it happened to me. It was like 'Inception' Joey said. But I think it was more like 'Being John Malkovich' because for a second or two I'm pretty sure I was Joey Ingram! Don't do drugs kids.
Great PLO podcast. The Phil Galfond T654 hand was very interesting and demonstrated that there are quite a few ways of looking at what were the correct plays by him and Ben Lamb.
I hate Galfond playing T654 pre in the first place because it's a classic win a small pot, lose a big pot hand in PLO. It is an easy fold pre even if getting a good price, because it is check folding on so many flops.
I slightly disagree about Ben Lamb's river sizing. I think it was pretty clever because it can and did get Galfond off a weak 4 and would get him off KKxx, AAxx and AQxx, whereas a 1/2 or 60% pot size bet is going to encourage some hero calls with those hands and very likely calls with a weak 4. Clearly KKxx and AAxx are not much of Galfond's range anyway as he would often 3 bet those pre. However a flat pre with weak versions such as AA73 no nut suits or KK82 one or no suits are fine pre.
I get the GTO principle that for balancing reasons a near pot size bet by definition has to include a certain amount of bluffs but I feel that the GTO approach is more valid if this were a 6 max on line game where a higher volume of hands are being played and more of a game dynamic has been established between players.
In this PAD game there are obviously a low volume of hands played, and as you pointed out people were playing fairly nitty, therefore Ben Lamb in a vacuum must have solidly put Phil Galfond on a weak 4 or an over pair or AQxx so picked a sizing that gave Phil not so attractive odds to call and repped some kind of house or K4xx/A4xx.
Should Ben Lamb have called the c/r on the flop? Probably not IMO, which basically shows that T654 when it does win a pot usually wins a relatively small one.
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Loved the Sontheimer POD. Needles everywhere! Also liked how papi admitted it took him like 7 years to realize single hands don't matter and poker is a long term game. But we all know you're not a bot and love this game with a hot fiery passion... every hand matters, shoutout to Jungle and Hellmuth btw .D
Hey Joey or anyone else who might know what I'm talking about,
I've watched a lot of your stuff and really appreciate your content. From time to time, you talk(rant?) about PLO being like a drug, and one time you really went over the top for like 2 or 3 minutes(i grind, 3b 4b the swings its crazy i go to bed wake up stick the needle back in my arm, play some more, etc etc). If you or anyone else remembers that or knows where I can find that clip, I would appreciate it. Thanks for all the great content you provide and looking forward to the new stuff.
Loved the Sontheimer POD. Needles everywhere! Also liked how papi admitted it took him like 7 years to realize single hands don't matter and poker is a long term game. But we all know you're not a bot and love this game with a hot fiery passion... every hand matters, shoutout to Jungle and Hellmuth btw .D
no idea who this guy is but he's ****ing hilarious.
lol@ "he late reg so he's reducing his negative edge"
Here is the Goosecore podcast for those who missed it
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
Great PLO podcast. The Phil Galfond T654 hand was very interesting and demonstrated that there are quite a few ways of looking at what were the correct plays by him and Ben Lamb.
I hate Galfond playing T654 pre in the first place because it's a classic win a small pot, lose a big pot hand in PLO. It is an easy fold pre even if getting a good price, because it is check folding on so many flops.
I slightly disagree about Ben Lamb's river sizing. I think it was pretty clever because it can and did get Galfond off a weak 4 and would get him off KKxx, AAxx and AQxx, whereas a 1/2 or 60% pot size bet is going to encourage some hero calls with those hands and very likely calls with a weak 4. Clearly KKxx and AAxx are not much of Galfond's range anyway as he would often 3 bet those pre. However a flat pre with weak versions such as AA73 no nut suits or KK82 one or no suits are fine pre.
I get the GTO principle that for balancing reasons a near pot size bet by definition has to include a certain amount of bluffs but I feel that the GTO approach is more valid if this were a 6 max on line game where a higher volume of hands are being played and more of a game dynamic has been established between players.
In this PAD game there are obviously a low volume of hands played, and as you pointed out people were playing fairly nitty, therefore Ben Lamb in a vacuum must have solidly put Phil Galfond on a weak 4 or an over pair or AQxx so picked a sizing that gave Phil not so attractive odds to call and repped some kind of house or K4xx/A4xx.
Should Ben Lamb have called the c/r on the flop? Probably not IMO, which basically shows that T654 when it does win a pot usually wins a relatively small one.
Nice breakdown Sage
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looking forward to the one with goose core
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Loved the Sontheimer POD. Needles everywhere! Also liked how papi admitted it took him like 7 years to realize single hands don't matter and poker is a long term game. But we all know you're not a bot and love this game with a hot fiery passion... every hand matters, shoutout to Jungle and Hellmuth btw .D
I had it down about 98% of the time but the 2% it still ****ed with my mind was costly
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Get Lex back on the pod, dude binked some plo money and is moving in with Jimmy Stapler in Costa Rica.
I could talk to Lex once/week and be very happy about it.
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Hey Joey or anyone else who might know what I'm talking about,
I've watched a lot of your stuff and really appreciate your content. From time to time, you talk(rant?) about PLO being like a drug, and one time you really went over the top for like 2 or 3 minutes(i grind, 3b 4b the swings its crazy i go to bed wake up stick the needle back in my arm, play some more, etc etc). If you or anyone else remembers that or knows where I can find that clip, I would appreciate it. Thanks for all the great content you provide and looking forward to the new stuff.
Yes PLZ find this clip
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Joey do you reckon you could get Llinus on the pod??
YES I hope so
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no idea who this guy is but he's ****ing hilarious.
lol@ "he late reg so he's reducing his negative edge"
lmao that clip is so ****ing good, I had to cut it out