I logged in to Kappa, but got beaten to the punch. I am embarrassed that I watch Twitch to much, thanks everybody.

Jaime do you think Matt and Kevin lost views/$ a week ago and do you think this effect is long term? Is this problem solved? Could you have alerted Twitch and gripsed so viewers can just watch some god damn poker? I prefer the house over Gripsed btw but get bored as hell playing micros and have watched his channel.

I have no idea what it feels like to be publicly outed.

wow this escalated pretty quickly. Can I get a cliff on all this bickering tweets? Thanks

Again, you guys are mad because it took me very little effort you ruin your friend. #seasalt

Here's the reality of the situation, you can talk all that John McClane nonsense from the comfort of your room, but you know damn well minion, IRL, you wouldn't say anything.

The **** I care what I have proven to you sob. Pat yourself on the back.

Has a Twitch rep posted in this thread? Or Reddit? Or contacted you PostFlopRepop. As i can't find boo from them.

Just went to his twitch page and he is hosting his buddy and partner Jonathan Little.
Jonathan is doing a ? and answer stream and has ignored all questions about Gripsed

Jaime can either confirm or deny my understanding, but I would not expect any formal response from Twitch ever regarding this matter. Twitch is a multi-billion dollar enterprise. This specific scandal is a far ways away from being big enough to merit a response from them I would guess.

Any streamer can host any other streamer on Twitch. Jonathan Little knows nothing about these matters and has nothing to do with this. At least that's my understanding at this time, based on what he said the times when he DID reply to questions about this matter during yesterday's stream.

Amazon paid a billion for twitch, does not mean thats what its worth.
" This specific scandal is a far ways away from being big enough to merit a response from them I would guess. "
Is why i think twitch is on its way out.

yeh that twitch chat was rough 445-515pm tuesday.
I left around 515 not sure what was after

But yes it seems Evan will at least address. Not sure what he will say though.


and postfloprepop... I never met Evan, He's not my buddy.
learn to read moron

I have just said I have met you before (truth) through those 2 or 3 guys, and you seemed very mentally unstable and not all there in the head.

you also gloated about using another account and being able to enter the womens sunday tournament. Like openly gloated.

Sorry you are the scum of the earth.
If evan did what he did so be it.. his actions his consequences Ill likely never meet him.

but regardless of this situation you are still the lowest scum of the earth.

I don't want to get into a whole sidebar economics debate. But by definition what Amazon paid for Twitch is exactly what it was worth at the time they bought it. And since then their numbers have grown by insane multiples in every way one could use to value the business.

If they are on the way out, as you say, then I will be very surprised.

I find it surprising that nobody else has commented on this. The graph definitely looks less damning when it's normalized for the same horizontal timeline. Once again, this doesn't prove or disprove anything. But nobody wants to reply to this information?

hiya ghost ))))

what's up man

Jonathan Little's stream was not a Q&A, he was hosting something people have been waiting for, and I'm certainly not the only one who's grateful that valuable time was not wasted on completely unrelated drama.

JL just typically answers a lot of poker related questions on stream.

Who likes correct data, right?

I agree with your first point. Jaime could have addressed this to Gripsed privately and taken it up with Twitch if necessary. I like Gripsed. He introduced Charlie Carrel to Twitch and Charlie Carrel is worth watching.

No one has contacted me as of yet.

Imma leave it at this, since we met IRL i take it you're in Toronto. Feel free to meet up with me in person to let me know the depths of my scum.

I'll tell you exactly where I'll be at. We can discuss this like men, otherwise just STFU.

As long as you're not raising I'm fine dude. It's not like I've heard that before until I showed the value card to "get stackin"

Not to derail this thread, but Charlie has only ever streamed a couple of times in total.

Everyone reading this thread I would like for ya'll to click on this tweet https://twitter.com/aidansparkes/sta...89443408293888 all you doubters/gripsedsters?/haters/minions i was waiting for this. Thank you sparkes25 (you may be a mod on my channel) this is super commendable. I owe you drink one day. Goodbye darlings, nothing left for ya'll to say i suppose. I'm smiling right now.

<------------------------------------ In my white bikini.

FYI Gripsed made a brief appearance on twitch yesterday (in other channels chat) and when confronted by a load of people in chat about these claims said he had been busy with life / business and was off to Yoga class, but would address them at some unspecified time in the future.

Personally, if I had a brand to protect and I had these allegations made against me, I am not sure a Yoga class would be my number one priority.

Ya I'm aware, saw him in cswidlers stream. I knew I'd be banned if i said anything because hes a mod there. So i took my shot. One caps locked sentence for the win.

What people should be doing, is putting a great deal of weight on sparkes25 tweet. Has been with twitch poker since the beginning and is respected by all. It's invaluable. Cheers.

They would have lost very little money and it would depend on their contracts with sponsors. In terms of viewer revenue very very little. I personally don't think that changes the weight of the argument but less then $10 for both.

Is the problem solved? We will see if the viewbot is on next time Gripsed streams and/or what his response is.

Yeah mostly agree. Twitch is actually quite approcahable. You can community with almost everyone that works there on Twitter, discord, skype, etc. I assume they would comment and definitely take action if they could. As explained in the OP though, legal contracts with partners can't be terminated without absolute 100% without a doubt proof that he is the one that put the bot on. We don't have that so they wont say anything.

Jonathan Little or anyone else that is friends with Gripsed, mods for Gripsed, likes Gripsed stream, etc, is not to blame here. Jonathan Little is a good guy and great player. He shouldn't take any heat and it is not his questions to answer.

The graph looks the same. What we are looking at his the change in growth not the total number of viewers. From 750 every .5 to 80 every .5 at the start of a stream. If you want more graphs his whole history is open on twinge. I'll cross post from reddit.

"http://www.twinge.tv/gripsed/streams/#/20284932384
http://www.twinge.tv/gripsed/streams/#/20261444064
http://www.twinge.tv/gripsed/streams/#/20243148432
http://www.twinge.tv/gripsed/streams/#/20222330880
http://www.twinge.tv/gripsed/streams/#/20182224576 (this one is really important. You can see the initial rate of growth change drastically.)
http://www.twinge.tv/gripsed/streams/#/19582900608
http://www.twinge.tv/gripsed/streams/#/19534346160

Agree not his thing to deal with.

Sparkes used to be a mod for me back in the day but stopped coming around when Gripsed started streaming. He is (or was) a big part of the Gripsed community. Always there supporting. I give a lot of weight to his tweet.

On point of Jonathan Little, I notice he has removed himself from the Gripsed Stream Team.