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Old 08-09-2018, 06:06 AM   #176
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Who deserves it more then LeX ?? A lot of People man, a lot of ! I am talking from Players who work on there Game and not on there Stream !
My point is that being the best poker player does not mean you will be the best streamer (same applies to any other game streamer).

Playing hud-less with a live camera on you 6/7 days a week is a very specific skill that Lex does better than most if not all other poker streamers. He also plays well, understands the game, and narrates his game in a way his viewers like.

There are plenty of better players, but none of them have yet to create good streams.
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:20 AM   #177
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He also plays well, understands the game, and narrates his game in a way his viewers like. .
I think it's safe to say he is not playing well atm. Understands the rules yeah but like someone mentioned there are some big leaks there. Narrates the game well that's probably true. I think he would do much better playing 100bb cash than mtts but mtts are way better format to stream.
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:46 PM   #178
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My point is that being the best poker player does not mean you will be the best streamer (same applies to any other game streamer).

Playing hud-less with a live camera on you 6/7 days a week is a very specific skill that Lex does better than most if not all other poker streamers. He also plays well, understands the game, and narrates his game in a way his viewers like.

There are plenty of better players, but none of them have yet to create good streams.

How confused are you dude? just listen to you! Lets go over whats wrong with your post
-PLaying hudless is a decision he made to make it a better viewer experience. Lex needs to grow the stream and be successful there, because he cant win at poker. I dont deny one bit him being an entertaining streamer. People love a good trainwreck.
-how can you say"putting a camera on you 6-7 days is skill lex does better than most? Anybody can sit in front of a camera and play highstakes people will watch. Winning would make it"and better than most
-You say he plays well, understands the game well and narrates it well for viewers to follow. This couldnt be further than the truth. Playing well would mean that you actually make money. Hes on a "100k downswing" and itd be 200 if he didnt get lucky the very few big games he won. He wont remember those times though he wont mention the tmie he had K3 allin pre to kk and won, for a 10k payjump in prizemoney. None of you brainwashed plebs will ever remmeber that but surely when he latereges a game with 8 bbs and loses a flip youd be the first to say how unlucky he is!. He also narrarates terribly. Its his way or NO WAY. If you comment he will tell you how he studied etc and you are a 5nl pro and doesnt want your advice.

doug polk might be the only good player on twitch.
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:46 AM   #179
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Anybody can sit in front of a camera and play highstakes people will watch.
This is not true.
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:52 AM   #180
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This is not true.
Well people watch Perkins playing one hs table so yeah it's kind of true. Or do you have better examples for your opinion?

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doug polk might be the only good player on twitch.
Well if we count out Lex then spraggy is a quite good streamer. And uhlen when he happens to stream. Might allso say tonkaa. And all of them wins allso.
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:01 AM   #181
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Well people watch Perkins playing one hs table so yeah it's kind of true. Or do you have better examples for your opinion?
Bill is great and creates some great content.

However;
https://socialblade.com/twitch/compa...ns/lexveldhuis

Look at the times people have played for $1m first prize on twitch; they did not get any kind of strong viewing numbers. It is regular day-in day-out streamers who generally get the viewers.

Building and sustaining a poker viewership (or any viewership) is hard.
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:18 AM   #182
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Bill is great and creates some great content.

However;
https://socialblade.com/twitch/compa...ns/lexveldhuis

Look at the times people have played for $1m first prize on twitch; they did not get any kind of strong viewing numbers. It is regular day-in day-out streamers who generally get the viewers.

Building and sustaining a poker viewership (or any viewership) is hard.
Yeah I didn't mean it like that you play some random mtt for big price. And Perkins is mind boggling boring (and pretty bad player tbh). The only reason people watch is is the stakes and giveaways (he does them right?). And tbh I don't know what I need to look from those graphs? I said people watch Perkins because he plays hs and you kind of proved my point.

Lets try this again. If you put a person to play hs on stream (not some random mtt from scoop) people will watch that. Like Perkins. Cant imagine people would watch him playing one table of NL25.
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:17 AM   #183
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This is not true.
I love how you read my post and pickout one small area of it and ignore the rest. I guess you read it and thought"yep! hes right! but i gotta find a comeback".... so you choose this, bad choice.

It is very much true, anybody in the world can sit in front of a computer and do what they love to do. IF you have the money to support it you can do whtever you want in this world, are you going to disagree with that too ? Id love to hear how im wrong!
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:17 PM   #184
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Whats this debate about Perkins and comparing him to Lex?
They both stream for different reasons. Perky is a baller who enjoys poker and streams from his yacht just having a fun time every now and then with no set schedule. Obviously hes not going to get anywhere NEAR lex volume with viewership. He didnt put his heart and sol into it and uses it for entertainment. Nothing wrong with that. I do enjoy watching him, and think hes a pretty successful dude.

Lex streams because he enjoys it(i think he does, not quite sure) but he obviously does it because he has to. He cant live his lifestyle without the extra money coming in .
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:30 PM   #185
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I'm not disagreeing with anything other than the assertion earlier in this thread that (1) Lex is somehow not deserving and (2) anyone could easily do what he does.

There's better players, and bigger players, and bigger personalities... but to stream successfully takes more - a lot more - than this.
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:34 PM   #186
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I'm not disagreeing with anything other than the assertion earlier in this thread that (1) Lex is somehow not deserving and (2) anyone could easily do what he does.

There's better players, and bigger players, and bigger personalities... but to stream successfully takes more - a lot more - than this.

Ok well i told you why he is not deserving and i explained how anybody COULD do what he does, can you explain how you think what you think?
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:43 PM   #187
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IThereís better players, and bigger players, and bigger personalities... but to stream successfully takes more - a lot more - than this.
True, but a big part of what it takes is being willing to do it. Without regarding how others would judge my personality iíd never stream just because I have no desire to play in front of a camera with many people watching all the time, and iím sure thatís true for most players. Thus what distingueshes Lex most from others (especially high-stakes players) isnít his personality or poker capabilties, but that heís willing to do the job he does.
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Old 08-11-2018, 04:43 AM   #188
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True, but a big part of what it takes is being willing to do it. Without regarding how others would judge my personality iíd never stream just because I have no desire to play in front of a camera with many people watching all the time, and iím sure thatís true for most players. Thus what distingueshes Lex most from others (especially high-stakes players) isnít his personality or poker capabilties, but that heís willing to do the job he does.
I dont blame you with the whole no desire to play in front of a camera, thing. For example i gave 2% of myself to some online friends online in a sunday major recently and i ended up losing allin preAK to QQ for roughly 30 bigs button to bb, vs an active bb guy. I had to hear for about a half hour how"AK is a drawing hand, you should of not gone broke, you should of not commited yourself and you could of folded to the money!" all these comments from someone who is down 4k with a 1.50 ABI.
-Twitch is full of that, and im outspoken and i would try to defend my play way to much against these people with zero clue.

Lex is outspoken too and blowsp on chat and i dont blame him sometimes, but he is only willing to do it because he is a real successful streamer and makes bank and he needs to stream to survive.
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