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Old 12-03-2018, 01:03 AM   #326
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Yes, he seemed very distraught. Makes me glad I gave up poker.
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Old 12-03-2018, 10:11 AM   #327
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He just has a bad attitude, I don't get how you can have such an easy job with so much support from so many people and continually cry and whine.

He needs a reality check, even with his bad down swing this year, I bet he is still making a good amount of money from Stars, RaiseYourEdge, Twitch donos, merch and youtube ads, yet he's acting as if this is an unheard of downswing or he is somehow terribly unlucky.

Ben should talk some sense into him.
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Old 12-03-2018, 04:02 PM   #328
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The luckiest people are generally also the ones who moan about bad luck the most.
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Old 12-04-2018, 11:44 AM   #329
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I love to watch poker on twitch But somehow never watched His stream. I asked him About raise your edge and Why he complains so much. I also mentioned This topic and he got pissed. Asked him how much rakeback from Stars and he Sad with a zout face zero. Got banned. Last time he claimed to play all highrollers unbacked, But the 40k anniversary wsop he was staked by Bart Spijkers. Guy needs a reality Check and stop the arrogant behauvior. Dont Really get the hype!
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:42 AM   #330
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lol did anyone else see that 1k mtt ft bubkle mental breakdown? God, i dont wish physical harm on nobody but he needs to quit poker or hes going to have another heart problem.
This seems pretty unfair. Yes, he was crushed after that hand. But didn't loose his mind or anything, like I expected him to after your comment. The guy was just sad. Like he should have been.

I've seen him struggle to keep his emotions in check more than once. But he is always trying really hard to improve, which deserves a little more recognition imo. Not everyone is blessed with a Spraggy mindset.

I guess being a successful "public figure" always comes with a certain level of hate and I don't like everything Lex does as well. Like the way he interacts with Chad seems pretty rude sometimes. Poker wise I don't always agree with his decisions either, but he is without a doubt a much better player than me so there are still things to learn and ideas to consider when he shares his thoughts.

At the end of the day he is running a successful business, because he provides the best poker related content on the net, with the required marketing behind it. When people do decide to contribute he always shows a lot of gratitude, regardless of the amount. But I've never seen him hard selling his products.

I think Lex is a genuinely good person, maybe not always easy to handle but his heart is in the right place. Cut him some slack.
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:58 PM   #331
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This seems pretty unfair. Yes, he was crushed after that hand. But didn't loose his mind or anything, like I expected him to after your comment. The guy was just sad. Like he should have been.

I've seen him struggle to keep his emotions in check more than once. But he is always trying really hard to improve, which deserves a little more recognition imo. Not everyone is blessed with a Spraggy mindset.

I guess being a successful "public figure" always comes with a certain level of hate and I don't like everything Lex does as well. Like the way he interacts with Chad seems pretty rude sometimes. Poker wise I don't always agree with his decisions either, but he is without a doubt a much better player than me so there are still things to learn and ideas to consider when he shares his thoughts.

At the end of the day he is running a successful business, because he provides the best poker related content on the net, with the required marketing behind it. When people do decide to contribute he always shows a lot of gratitude, regardless of the amount. But I've never seen him hard selling his products.

I think Lex is a genuinely good person, maybe not always easy to handle but his heart is in the right place. Cut him some slack.
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Old 12-05-2018, 11:24 PM   #332
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This seems pretty unfair. Yes, he was crushed after that hand. But didn't loose his mind or anything, like I expected him to after your comment. The guy was just sad. Like he should have been.

I've seen him struggle to keep his emotions in check more than once. But he is always trying really hard to improve, which deserves a little more recognition imo. Not everyone is blessed with a Spraggy mindset.

I guess being a successful "public figure" always comes with a certain level of hate and I don't like everything Lex does as well. Like the way he interacts with Chad seems pretty rude sometimes. Poker wise I don't always agree with his decisions either, but he is without a doubt a much better player than me so there are still things to learn and ideas to consider when he shares his thoughts.

At the end of the day he is running a successful business, because he provides the best poker related content on the net, with the required marketing behind it. When people do decide to contribute he always shows a lot of gratitude, regardless of the amount. But I've never seen him hard selling his products.

I think Lex is a genuinely good person, maybe not always easy to handle but his heart is in the right place. Cut him some slack.
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Whats so unfair about it? It was the truth. You know what i think is unfair? Lex banning numerous chat members when they question a play he makes. Lex banning people who tell him to calm down. Lex marking people as fish, when they are better than him lol.

Yes he was sad, but he was last place in chips the entire time from 5 tables to go , it was a massive longshot and if he had won a few doublesup it woulda been sheer luck. He was abut to cry and sweating and wouldnt shutup for 20 minutes. He's not a pro hes a crybaby. He is out of touch with reality and plays push/fold poker. He deserves to lose becausehe keeps regging tourneys at last minute and re entering 3 times over and over, just hopingto get lucky and run up a stack cuz he cant play postflop then plays allin or fold over and over.

You thinki hes unlucky. but you wont even remember the major times he got lucky. What about that mtt where he was 8 handed and shoved k3 into KK, and flopped 33 on the flop? he ended up getting 2nd for over 10grand. Nice 10 thousand dollar suckout there, or what about the time he won the thrilla? he won with AQ to AK allin pre and 10s to QQ before the FT even wentoff. Thats another 40k+ his way. Same for that plo mtt he won 40k in.... the list goes on and on. You are brainwashed . You know what else is also lucky? Being abe to stream and make over 500 thousand dollars and have the biggest stream on twitch, while losing 200k playing poker. Thats LUCK but peiople like to watch trainwrecks and high poker games so they go to him.

Spraggy is smart, he is well aware of his skill level and stays there andmakes a little and streams and makes money off twitch streaming and stars sponsorship.

I think hes a good dude too, but too emotional and cant handle his ego. I bet you are better than him, or did you lose over 200 grand too? You shouldnt "learn " from him. nobody should
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Old 12-06-2018, 08:23 AM   #333
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Whats so unfair about it? It was the truth. You know what i think is unfair? Lex banning numerous chat members when they question a play he makes. Lex banning people who tell him to calm down. Lex marking people as fish, when they are better than him lol.
Yea, his interactions with Chad are irritating sometimes. I'm not here to defend that. But I find the critique over it too personal and gloating, like people are glad they finally have a reason to hate on him. Disregarding the things that speak favorably to his personality.

I'm not critizing you personally by the way, but the prevalent tone in this thread.

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Yes he was sad, but he was last place in chips the entire time from 5 tables to go , it was a massive longshot and if he had won a few doublesup it woulda been sheer luck. He was abut to cry and sweating and wouldnt shutup for 20 minutes. He's not a pro hes a crybaby. He is out of touch with reality and plays push/fold poker. He deserves to lose becausehe keeps regging tourneys at last minute and re entering 3 times over and over, just hopingto get lucky and run up a stack cuz he cant play postflop then plays allin or fold over and over.
We covered that he's emotional I think, but that doesn't automatically make him a bad poker player.

The man has access to some of the best players in the world, and he is obviously not an idiot, so how likely really is it that he sucks? As I mentioned, I think some of his decisions are surprising but I'm not the one to judge high stakes tournaments. Or the people who coach him. (BenCB?)

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You thinki hes unlucky. but you wont even remember the major times he got lucky. What about that mtt where he was 8 handed and shoved k3 into KK, and flopped 33 on the flop? he ended up getting 2nd for over 10grand. Nice 10 thousand dollar suckout there, or what about the time he won the thrilla? he won with AQ to AK allin pre and 10s to QQ before the FT even wentoff. Thats another 40k+ his way. Same for that plo mtt he won 40k in.... the list goes on and on. You are brainwashed . You know what else is also lucky? Being abe to stream and make over 500 thousand dollars and have the biggest stream on twitch, while losing 200k playing poker. Thats LUCK but peiople like to watch trainwrecks and high poker games so they go to him.
I'm not saying he is unlucky at all, to be honest I don't watch him more than a couple of hours once or twice a week so I really don't know how exactly he is running.

If he makes 500k from streaming then that is due to his talent to build an audience around a very professional product/service. He is good at his job, I don't see how you can blame him for that as long as he is not hurting anyone. Which I don't think he does, as I explained in the post before.

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Spraggy is smart.
Yea, seems like the guy walks on water emotionally. Fintan as well. Must be an island thing. Great to watch.

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I think hes a good dude too, but too emotional and cant handle his ego. I bet you are better than him, or did you lose over 200 grand too? You shouldnt "learn " from him. nobody should
I think he can handle his ego, at least he is self aware enough to realize and work on his shortcomings, and he does so in a very open manner. Not a lot of people could do that. So in that regard, I think we can all learn a lot from Lex.

That was kind of the whole point why I made the first post, I don't think this man deserves all the hatred he is getting. Critique is fine, but it should never be one sided and so personal.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:15 PM   #334
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Yea, his interactions with Chad ...
Who is this Chad, sounds like he is an awful person.
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Old 12-07-2018, 03:24 AM   #335
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Who is this Chad, sounds like he is an awful person.
Chad is a very good, winning professional poker player
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Old 12-09-2018, 10:52 AM   #336
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Old 12-23-2018, 01:14 PM   #337
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I wish i saw the hand but i just went in there and Lex was on a rant to chat saying"im sorry for the tough love but that is why you guys are bad!" "you guys dont know what you are doing this is why you guys arent good" Obviously chat saw something which was probably terrible and Lex had to respond to put everybody down.

Lol who is he to say others are bad? Who is he to mark people as fun players?(who are always better than him) this guys a real piece of work
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Old 12-23-2018, 11:25 PM   #338
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you guys are funny. why does any of this matter > lolz.
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Old 12-24-2018, 01:44 PM   #339
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I wish i saw the hand but i just went in there and Lex was on a rant to chat saying"im sorry for the tough love but that is why you guys are bad!" "you guys dont know what you are doing this is why you guys arent good" Obviously chat saw something which was probably terrible and Lex had to respond to put everybody down.

Lol who is he to say others are bad? Who is he to mark people as fun players?(who are always better than him) this guys a real piece of work
He was correct on that one. Some want to fold every hand when re-raised.
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Old 12-24-2018, 01:47 PM   #340
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Btw did he perhaps mark you with a red circle and you are mad to the very core about it? Why do you care so much, dont like him dont watch.
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Old 12-25-2018, 02:19 AM   #341
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Btw did he perhaps mark you with a red circle and you are mad to the very core about it? Why do you care so much, dont like him dont watch.
I didnt see that hand in question but no he didnt mark me red, well because i am American. Anyway even if he did mark me red Id take it as a compliment because that would mean he thinks im bad, which would mean im fantastic because he's atrocious at every form of poker there is.

I watch because i like to see him lose and cry about it, sort of the same reason why i watch and love to trash on hellmuth. I dont care to the core, its entertainment to me.
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Old 12-25-2018, 02:12 PM   #342
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You are absolutely pathetic.
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Old 12-25-2018, 02:24 PM   #343
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You are absolutely pathetic.


Lol. Just rekt
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Old 12-26-2018, 12:57 AM   #344
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I didnt see that hand in question but no he didnt mark me red, well because i am American. Anyway even if he did mark me red Id take it as a compliment because that would mean he thinks im bad, which would mean im fantastic because he's atrocious at every form of poker there is.

I watch because i like to see him lose and cry about it, sort of the same reason why i watch and love to trash on hellmuth. I dont care to the core, its entertainment to me.
I don't think he is bad at NL cash or Omaha-tourney or cash. He is playing high stakes tourney's and admits at certain tables he is the fish.

He still gets 5K+viewers and is one of the best streamers out there-give the guy a break FFS
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You are absolutely pathetic.

This.
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:30 AM   #346
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Nice comments guys with no opinions why and how im "pathetic" Just cuz i trash on your leader? get a mind of your own. SAd
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Old 12-28-2018, 01:26 PM   #347
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I don't think he is bad at NL cash or Omaha-tourney or cash. He is playing high stakes tourney's and admits at certain tables he is the fish.

He still gets 5K+viewers and is one of the best streamers out there-give the guy a break FFS
He's one of the biggest (maybe the biggest?) poker streamer on Twitch. Largely because he's a team pro and many people remember him from High Stakes Poker.

The question is whether he beats the games or not (which it seems he doesn't), and whether it's ethical to be pretending to his viewers that he's a winning player.
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Old 12-28-2018, 03:04 PM   #348
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He's one of the biggest (maybe the biggest?) poker streamer on Twitch. Largely because he's a team pro and many people remember him from High Stakes Poker.

The question is whether he beats the games or not (which it seems he doesn't), and whether it's ethical to be pretending to his viewers that he's a winning player.
No I get it, but I don't get the vibe that he's pretending to be a top high stakes tourney grinder. I think it's fair to say he does well in NL tournaments $109 and below, Omaha at any stakes, and probably still a pretty good cash player.

I agree he does not beat the $530 BB and higher and is out classed in the 1K's. Streaming probably hurts his game because those high stakes regs know what holes he has in his game etc. I pull hard for Lex and hope it's run bad but other high stakes regs know he has holes.

I don't think the Team Pro or the Big Game captures the big view numbers as you suggest. IMO it's Lex being real, letting out some rage and just being an entertaining dude is what people like. Fedor is a beast and only approx 1-2K viewers tune in to watch/learn from him.
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