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Old 09-16-2018, 11:36 PM   #276
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Wow, over 7k subs now?!

It really is funny how stressed he is from losing at poker, considering he will probably make over 500k from twitch this year.

How much is he stuck for in poker this year? like 150-200k?
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:17 AM   #277
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500k from twitch? I seriously doubt it's anywhere near that high.

Why do people even donate or subscribe to Twitch streams anyway? I never got why they did it.
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:33 AM   #278
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Subs pay 5, 10 or 25 a month.

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Old 09-17-2018, 08:54 AM   #279
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500k from twitch? I seriously doubt it's anywhere near that high.

Why do people even donate or subscribe to Twitch streams anyway? I never got why they did it.
No. 500k a year have made only Ninja. He is the most popular streamer. He can have like 200k viewers at once. And how many viewers watching Lex simulteniously? 10k?
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:08 AM   #280
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No. 500k a year have made only Ninja. He is the most popular streamer. He can have like 200k viewers at once. And how many viewers watching Lex simulteniously? 10k?
https://twitchstats.net/

Ninja has 95k subs atm. Streamer gets half of the price right? So that's roughly 240k per month just subs alone and everyone only paying for the lowest tier.

Although in this article he says he gets $3.50 (for real tho :P) per sub.

https://dotesports.com/culture/news/...nja-make-21954
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:47 AM   #281
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https://twitchstats.net/

Ninja has 95k subs atm. Streamer gets half of the price right? So that's roughly 240k per month just subs alone and everyone only paying for the lowest tier.

Although in this article he says he gets $3.50 (for real tho :P) per sub.

https://dotesports.com/culture/news/...nja-make-21954
I forgot. In the news they said that he earn 500k a month not a year. Crazy
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Old 09-17-2018, 11:50 AM   #282
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According to https://twitchstats.net/ Lex has 830 hours streamed this year. I dont know how many donations he receives per hour but when i watch his stream he gets a donation of 5-20$ pretty much every 5 minutes. Lets just go with 100$/h. That would make 83k/year.(until now)

He has 7k subs atm, but most of the time of the year it was below 3k i think( might be wrong here). Lets just go with 4k subs as average. Thats 5$/sub for the lowest tier but Twitch gets between 10% and 50% of that. So overall something between 10k and 15k per month or 80k-120k for this year until now.(might be higher)

I have absolutly no idea how much he makes with bites. Maybe another 100$/h, maybe way less, maybe way more. I have no idea. So another 50k-150k this year.

In his info is written he is affiliated with RYE, Pokershares and maybe pcextreme and maybe cheqio (not sure what his status with the last two is). The RYE cost 739$ and around 1,3k$. I guess Lex gets 10% for every singup? I dont know how many buy it but when it is 1 person/day thats around 100$/day. So another 20k this year. (This number might be totally of could be 1000 people buying it but also just 50, price is too high for your average viewer to buy it imo, but who knows what some people do with their money.)

No idea what he gets for promoting the other businesses.


Thats
~80k with donations
~80k with subs
~50k with bits
~20k with RYE

Would be personally surprised when his twitch income is below 200k and above 400k. Everything befor taxes obv.

Also he is going to play the 25k today as a thank you to the community according to Fintan. Absolut scenes when he runs deep in the main or in the 25k. Also scenes when he burns 10ks$ while ignoring ICM
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Old 09-17-2018, 12:43 PM   #283
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^these numbers seem okish

And lets not forget, he's basically the No1 Team Online Pro nowadays if not of whole Team Pro. Nobody knows how much he's getting in cash, buyins and what not from stars.
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Old 09-17-2018, 01:05 PM   #284
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Everybody join now for the day2 wcoop main event! 7k viewers before the stream even started...
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:01 PM   #285
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Its already reached to 18k viewers.Looks like he is gonna break his record.Which was 19228.
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:12 PM   #286
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According to https://twitchstats.net/ Lex has 830 hours streamed this year. I dont know how many donations he receives per hour but when i watch his stream he gets a donation of 5-20$ pretty much every 5 minutes. Lets just go with 100$/h. That would make 83k/year.(until now)

He has 7k subs atm, but most of the time of the year it was below 3k i think( might be wrong here). Lets just go with 4k subs as average. Thats 5$/sub for the lowest tier but Twitch gets between 10% and 50% of that. So overall something between 10k and 15k per month or 80k-120k for this year until now.(might be higher)

I have absolutly no idea how much he makes with bites. Maybe another 100$/h, maybe way less, maybe way more. I have no idea. So another 50k-150k this year.

In his info is written he is affiliated with RYE, Pokershares and maybe pcextreme and maybe cheqio (not sure what his status with the last two is). The RYE cost 739$ and around 1,3k$. I guess Lex gets 10% for every singup? I dont know how many buy it but when it is 1 person/day thats around 100$/day. So another 20k this year. (This number might be totally of could be 1000 people buying it but also just 50, price is too high for your average viewer to buy it imo, but who knows what some people do with their money.)

No idea what he gets for promoting the other businesses.


Thats
~80k with donations
~80k with subs
~50k with bits
~20k with RYE

Would be personally surprised when his twitch income is below 200k and above 400k. Everything befor taxes obv.
Twitch takes way more than 10% of subs. You can figure out by looking at their promo this month: $5 for the first month, and $ 1 for the second = 40% discount. I can imagine Twitch getting nothing but no way they pay out of their own pocket even for a promo. Thus they must take at least 40%.

Lex has ~3K paying subs, more than half of them are gifted. Dollar and bit donations seem to have declined a lot since you can gift subs. So you're close to correct but their is a large overlap between donation and subs since you can donate them.
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Old 09-17-2018, 03:02 PM   #287
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As far as I remember, Twitch takes 50% so a streamer gets 2.5$ from every sub. And he receives the same amount from Amazon promo sub despite the fact people don't pay for it. I think 500 bits is 5$, but I'm not sure of that.

He earns a lot from Twitch but no way he can afford loses like 150k$.

Almost 25k viewers right now, 34th of 108 in $5.200 ME.
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Old 09-17-2018, 04:07 PM   #288
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Wow, tons of hate in here for a guy who is bringing poker to new audiences and doing a lot for the online game. Hope he binks this one, looking forward to the comments if he does
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:24 PM   #289
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Lex ended up getting 58th in the WCOOP $5k Main for $28.6k unlucky bust out hand in BvB situation.
https://clips.twitch.tv/HyperGrossFriseeNerfBlueBlaster
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:04 PM   #290
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lez is a trainwreck who plays superhigh, thats why he gets alot of viewers, and being on teampro gets attention aswelll.

he mistreats whoever questions him and says how hes been a pro for 14 yrs....
hes been a massive whale his whole career and made a living off rakeback and bonuses for awhile, and now off twitch andsubs and donos and yes he makes easily over 500k from twitch.

he plaed like crap and deserved to lose today and justice was served
hes a bad person so i "hate on him" and speak he truth
What makes me sick is how he takes advantage of his viewers and lies constanly to them
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Old 09-17-2018, 09:48 PM   #291
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lez is a trainwreck who plays superhigh, thats why he gets alot of viewers, and being on teampro gets attention aswelll.

he mistreats whoever questions him and says how hes been a pro for 14 yrs....
hes been a massive whale his whole career and made a living off rakeback and bonuses for awhile, and now off twitch andsubs and donos and yes he makes easily over 500k from twitch.

he plaed like crap and deserved to lose today and justice was served
hes a bad person so i "hate on him" and speak he truth
What makes me sick is how he takes advantage of his viewers and lies constanly to them
Not defending him but he did admit this yesterday on stream, that he is not a winning player anymore? He also said quite a few times he was down big on WCOOP this year.
https://clips.twitch.tv/OutstandingMistyDoveShadyLulu
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Old 09-17-2018, 11:26 PM   #292
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Not defending him but he did admit this yesterday on stream, that he is not a winning player anymore? He also said quite a few times he was down big on WCOOP this year.
https://clips.twitch.tv/OutstandingMistyDoveShadyLulu
I think he was only conceding that he's not a winning player in that 25k field. He believes that he is a winning player on his normal schedule.
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:48 AM   #293
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Subs pay 5, 10 or 25 a month.

'Text To Speech' and 'Ad-Free viewing, chatting during Sub-Only Mode, subscription tenure badges and 28 emotes'.
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lez is a trainwreck who plays superhigh, thats why he gets alot of viewers, and being on teampro gets attention aswelll.

he mistreats whoever questions him and says how hes been a pro for 14 yrs....
hes been a massive whale his whole career and made a living off rakeback and bonuses for awhile, and now off twitch andsubs and donos and yes he makes easily over 500k from twitch.

he plaed like crap and deserved to lose today and justice was served
hes a bad person so i "hate on him" and speak he truth
What makes me sick is how he takes advantage of his viewers and lies constanly to them
No, someone did the calculations above you and worked out that there is no way he makes anywhere close to 500k. And if the world was full of clones of me, he would make next to nothing from his Twitch stream!
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:53 AM   #294
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lez is a trainwreck who plays superhigh, thats why he gets alot of viewers, and being on teampro gets attention aswelll.

he mistreats whoever questions him and says how hes been a pro for 14 yrs....
hes been a massive whale his whole career and made a living off rakeback and bonuses for awhile, and now off twitch andsubs and donos and yes he makes easily over 500k from twitch.

he plaed like crap and deserved to lose today and justice was served
hes a bad person so i "hate on him" and speak he truth
What makes me sick is how he takes advantage of his viewers and lies constanly to them
Can we see your graphs? You are so busy bashing Lex that you must be top hs reg by the looks of it.
He played the ME great yesterday, but it wasn't enough. He is definitely not the toptop mtt-reg, but he isn't some whale, who is losing 5-10bb/100 either.
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:57 AM   #295
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Can we see your graphs? You are so busy bashing Lex that you must be top hs reg by the looks of it.
He played the ME great yesterday, but it wasn't enough. He is definitely not the toptop mtt-reg, but he isn't some whale, who is losing 5-10bb/100 either.
What do his graphs have to do with anything? You don't need to be a top hs reg to see that Lex doesn't beat these stakes.
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Old 09-18-2018, 04:19 AM   #296
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He will go back to Holland in a few days where he will stream the usual 9-5 Europe schedule. So anyways he won't be playing a lot of high stakes tournies midweeks anymore. Probably only sundays.
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:51 AM   #297
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hes been a massive whale his whole career and made a living off rakeback and bonuses for awhile
this doesnt make sense. you cant be a "massive whale" while making a living off rakeback and bonuses.


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he plaed like crap and deserved to lose today and justice was served
I watched most of it and didnt notice any massive blunders. Curios to see what hands you think he misplayed?

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People pay to have a little badge next to their name and use a few extra emotes, really?
I am a sub to a few smaller channels. Its not really about the badge but more about supporting someone. Small channels rely on subs to be able to stream full-time. So if I relly enjoy someones content I might ship them a sub for a few months to help them keep the stream going. Its a similar concept to patreon for other independent content producers.
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:52 AM   #298
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People pay to have a little badge next to their name and use a few extra emotes, really?

No, someone did the calculations above you and worked out that there is no way he makes anywhere close to 500k. And if the world was full of clones of me, he would make next to nothing from his Twitch stream!
they were wrong, he makes over 50k a month, from streaming which will only get bigger, the crazy amont in donations, his stars salary. and his sponsors and his affiliations, if he wasnt making bank he wouldnt do it, oh yah, his private coaching he does on the side

im a sub, only from the gift.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:04 AM   #299
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Can we see your graphs? You are so busy bashing Lex that you must be top hs reg by the looks of it.
He played the ME great yesterday, but it wasn't enough. He is definitely not the toptop mtt-reg, but he isn't some whale, who is losing 5-10bb/100 either.
hello funplayer, sorry i inform you how your hero is a failure, but illl be honest and tell you my skill level. i played *****ween 15-20k games with a 58 buck ABI.
for the past few yrs with a 44 and 68k profit. im happy and working up,the real way.

he had 2.6 mill a 20 40k 40 from he$$$$. ddmt put on any bubble pressure and played scared he litterally is the worst player in todays 25k unless jcarver decides to donate to the pool

im open to make monthly win or loss bets on lex btw
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this doesnt make sense. you cant be a "massive whale" while making a living off rakeback and bonuses.




I watched most of it and didnt notice any massive blunders. Curios to see what hands you think he misplayed?



I am a sub to a few smaller channels. Its not really about the badge but more about supporting someone. Small channels rely on subs to be able to stream full-time. So if I relly enjoy someones content I might ship them a sub for a few months to help them keep the stream going. Its a similar concept to patreon for other independent content producers.

makes plenty of sense. plenty of players lost and only profit from rakeback and bonuses

you shouldnt support an ungratefull abjusive lying crybaby but you are brainwashed. sad
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