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Old 10-16-2014, 11:10 AM   #51
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Re: Jason Somerville streaming Poker on Twitch and currently over 9500 viewers!

They used to ban people from streaming poker on twitch.tv. I'm glad they changed their policy.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:25 AM   #52
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Not hating, but I don't think it's really that great for poker.

I mean, gamers aren't exactly known for being gamblers with an extra income. Most of them are broke students who will probably deposit no more than 50 dollars, study the game, and play abc.
the structure of gaming community has changed a lot recently, i believe that there are a lot of them with some money to spare - which is shown by millions made in microtransactions and subs by gaming companies.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:27 AM   #53
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:34 AM   #54
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the structure of gaming community has changed a lot recently, i believe that there are a lot of them with some money to spare - which is shown by millions made in microtransactions and subs by gaming companies.
The problem almost all Gamers are under the Age of 21. If the Legal Age to play Poker in the U.S was 18 this would have a better chance of bringing in new players
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:40 AM   #55
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The problem almost all Gamers are under the Age of 21. If the Legal Age to play Poker in the U.S was 18 this would have a better chance of bringing in new players
That's actually not true, the ESA (Entertainment Software Association - trade group for games) reports 39% of gamers are age 36+. 32% between 18-35. Would be nice they parsed the data to include 21+.

http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2014.pdf
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:41 AM   #56
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The problem almost all Gamers are under the Age of 21. If the Legal Age to play Poker in the U.S was 18 this would have a better chance of bringing in new players
False. 62% of the gamers in the US is above the age of 21. I'm inclined to think your argument is valid in regards to people who watch twitch.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:46 AM   #57
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The problem almost all Gamers are under the Age of 21. If the Legal Age to play Poker in the U.S was 18 this would have a better chance of bringing in new players
yeah, but in most countries legal age is 18 (everywhere in europe, afaik), and you must realize that almost all of online poker is happening outside of US at the moment.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:47 AM   #58
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False. 62% of the gamers in the US is above the age of 21. I'm inclined to think your argument is valid in regards to people who watch twitch.
actually you are right ill back your argument up with facts lol… my bad for assuming http://venturebeat.com/2014/04/29/ga...-on-a-console/

also found some articles that say the average age of twitch viewers is 21 http://www.fastcompany.com/3025010/f...s-viewed-per-m

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Old 10-16-2014, 12:16 PM   #59
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I wonder if there has been a change of policy at twitch, I believe previously you weren't allowed to stream poker there.
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Old 10-16-2014, 12:46 PM   #60
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Re: Jason Somerville streaming Poker on Twitch and currently over 9500 viewers!

I think this trend is somewhere from good to great for poker. Twitch is well beyond only americans and whether those people have $$$ to spend on poker at this exact moment in time doesn't really matter that much. If new players like it, they will find a way (good or bad) to get some money to play with. I imagine streaming will become more and more popular and hopefully it starts to become a thing people do more of, which in turn will hopefully help get poker out there to more and more people.

A few people said that they don't think it can be good for poker but it certainly cannot be bad. Xxxxx number of people will now be exposed to it, whereas in the past none of these people might have ever found out anything about it. I would like to think 19 year old Steve is out there watching Jcarvers streams over a period of time, falls in love with poker and in a few years starts making real money deposits when he makes some extra money but without his initial attraction to Jcarver/twitch poker streams he spends that money on something else (dreams ftw)
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Old 10-16-2014, 01:09 PM   #61
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good for the game
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Old 10-16-2014, 01:37 PM   #62
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Re: Jason Somerville streaming Poker on Twitch and currently over 9500 viewers!

Honestly, poker is dying a death. Anything is good right now. Twitch is a new avenue. Really you need to make poker appeal to a youtube audience though. While a lot are too young now you might at least get people talking about the game again. You only need to know of someone who makes a lot of money playing poker to get people interested.
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Old 10-16-2014, 01:43 PM   #63
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Re: Jason Somerville streaming Poker on Twitch and currently over 9500 viewers!

Jason must not like his hair because he wears a hat in literally every pic.
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Old 10-16-2014, 03:29 PM   #64
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Re: Jason Somerville streaming Poker on Twitch and currently over 9500 viewers!

I've been watching my fair share of HEX ( an online TCG similar to Magic the Gathering ) on Twitch over the last couple of months.

At times I've wondered whether Poker could be a success on Twitch. Great to see JS making it happen. He seems to be a great guy, I'm looking forward to following his Twitch adventures.

Btw, to the people saying that gamers have no money to gamble. There were several people buying the 10K USD pledge for the HEX TCG Kickstarter, which basically buys you virtual cards.
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Old 10-16-2014, 03:58 PM   #65
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the amount of money they drop on CS:GO skins and LoL/DOTA2 skins, I know I've dropped 200 bucks and I'm casual as ****.
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Old 10-16-2014, 05:48 PM   #66
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Re: Jason Somerville streaming Poker on Twitch and currently over 9500 viewers!

In regards to how good the stream/twitch will be for poker I'm not really sure. Can only help it, though?

Just like to add myself to the list of fans of Jason Somerville. The guy gives a half hour video out every day in which he plays reasonable stakes and very articulately and interesting describes his thought process. The guy really knows how to play midstakes poker well (and high stakes also if his results are anything to go by) and when I'm playing these days I often think 'Hmm... What did JCarver say about a situation like this?' as much as I think about what I've learned from books/experience/this forum etc.

I've found his RunItUp series to be a really excellent learning tool.
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Old 10-16-2014, 06:09 PM   #67
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Re: Jason Somerville streaming Poker on Twitch and currently over 9500 viewers!

I've thought about this before but two things
1) its only fun for a viewer if you could see the streamers hole cards
2) if he's doing this live why can't i just sit him hu at the table he's streaming at and have twitch open at the same time
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Old 10-16-2014, 06:11 PM   #68
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Re: Jason Somerville streaming Poker on Twitch and currently over 9500 viewers!

he was doing it on a 3minute delay
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Old 10-16-2014, 06:12 PM   #69
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Re: Jason Somerville streaming Poker on Twitch and currently over 9500 viewers!

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I've thought about this before but two things
1) its only fun for a viewer if you could see the streamers hole cards
2) if he's doing this live why can't i just sit him hu at the table he's streaming at and have twitch open at the same time
1) He basically records it live most of the time then let's the viewers see it a day or two later; you do see the hole cards.

2) When he's doing a live stream on Twitch he has a 3 minute delay.
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Old 10-16-2014, 06:18 PM   #70
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When can we expect to see our boy ChicagoJoey making the switch to Twitch?!

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Old 10-16-2014, 06:20 PM   #71
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I think this trend is somewhere from good to great for poker. Twitch is well beyond only americans and whether those people have $$$ to spend on poker at this exact moment in time doesn't really matter that much. If new players like it, they will find a way (good or bad) to get some money to play with. I imagine streaming will become more and more popular and hopefully it starts to become a thing people do more of, which in turn will hopefully help get poker out there to more and more people.

A few people said that they don't think it can be good for poker but it certainly cannot be bad. Xxxxx number of people will now be exposed to it, whereas in the past none of these people might have ever found out anything about it. I would like to think 19 year old Steve is out there watching Jcarvers streams over a period of time, falls in love with poker and in a few years starts making real money deposits when he makes some extra money but without his initial attraction to Jcarver/twitch poker streams he spends that money on something else (dreams ftw)
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wow, this is one of the best thing that could happend to poker

I'm watching hearthstone on twitch from time to time and i was just thinking few days ago, that if a poker player with interesting personality would do this, it could have huge impact on the progress of the game. Also, some Americans itt seems to be forgetting, that the internet is actually international - most of his viewers most likely don't live in US, so they can play online poker.

Anyway, i thought that it would be unlikely for someone to pull it off - first, we need a young (twitch crowd wont watch old people) player with a personality, who would be willing to sacrifice massive ev by showing his cards on a very small delay. Of course he has to play much lower than his usual stakes (because of the massive ev loss), and do it frequently, as you need to play regularly to build up a twitch audience.

Also, the player need to be able to dumb down the strategy talk - but not too much. Twitch viewers are mostly gamers, they aprecciate the element of skill, and they want to know the thought process behind plays streamer makes. But, of course, they cannot feel overwhelmed. I didn't think anyone could achieve all those things, but Jason Somerville seems to be a perfect man for the job.

If this stream would go viral, it might cause another poker boom - a bit different than the moneymaker one, as most twitch viewers are young, and therefore have limited acces to money - but if instead on spending 100$/month on subs and microtransanctions, they would pump it into microstakes poker economy, it would be great for all the stakes (more money at the bottom = more regs move up = worse regs higher = more actual reg battles and less bumhunting).
this is spot on imo
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Old 10-16-2014, 06:41 PM   #72
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Honestly, poker is dying a death. .
Poker dying a death is the same as you dying a death.

Think about that.
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:03 PM   #73
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Re: Jason Somerville streaming Poker on Twitch and currently over 9500 viewers!

There are a ton of gamers on Twitch (streamers and viewers) who spend hundreds for virtual items in games indicating there is a market there for them to use their disposable income also on poker. However, the vast majority of those on Twitch spend their money on LoL, Diablo, Dota2 etc. and some other major games most of which are very sociable encouraging teamwork and playing with friends. Poker is very antisocial, discourages teamwork and playing with friends, so to expect a huge influx of people to deposit $20 for poker instead of buying the latest whoever-the-**** to play with and impress their friends I think is stretching it. Also, gamers especially for the games most highlighted by Twitch are grinders to the maximum.

But good luck to all involved I really hope it blows up, maybe the adults funding the kids on there will see poker being played and that's how it blows up who knows, but we hope for the best.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:43 PM   #74
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Just watched some of a couple of his videos. I think they are really good. I think there's enough strategy to make it appealing to players as a learning tool even if he never really gives away a whole lot, but it's definitely accesible for the lesser experienced person or someone that is completely new to poker. It would be a complete fail if he was using a HUD and was often saying things like "ok so we're going to defend in position against a 14% 3-bet range here because bla bla bla." He's more like "this guy is real aggressive and folding is boring so flop please dealer." He does a really good job of making it funny and he basically is talking the entire time. This is the sort of thing that is good for poker, the only problem is that a lot of his audience is likely american and there's not really anywhere for them to play, but hopefully it reaches enough of an audience world wide to attract new players to the game.
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Old 10-17-2014, 12:56 AM   #75
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I've watched jcarvers for a little but not as many as joeys but i think jc got a right good mix between strat / general talk and doesn't go too deep into gto/ range merging etc.

I think joeys stance on no strat on podcasts is a little condescending to avg viewers as if to say we know all the best plays etc and not gonna tell you jus because we had to learn and were doing it for free.

I think good content podcasts are rare and joeys and jcarvers are the better ones and i think joey should relax his strict "no strat at any costs" on his pod casts as i think jus little bits of comments would def add to them. They don't have to go into deep detail about every hand but sometimes jus little bits of input would be better that than as i said before the seemingly condescending attitude - oh its strat - nothing shall be said anymore on this segment move onto non strat speak.
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