Not trying to fuel the hate train (I actually like Jamie), but he literally plays as a full time pro. Being up "close to 5 figures" in May is not very good and would not be a living wage without stars/twitch sponsor money. Granted they are MTT's and he could win 1 tourney and quickly be up 6 figures this year.

Staples Is an overweight,lazy and D level poker player that lies to his audience. His fans are the equivalent to those douchebag brown nosers we all work with. His little "community" is absolute cringe...

Keep eating 5k calories a Day Staples so we can all laugh at you... Sheer laziness

Allways wondered why staplers fans are so freaking salty. It's like a freaking cult where you can have only one opinion.

I don't watch his stream, I'm familiar with who he is though. Not really wanting to read through this thread, but what is he lying to his audience about?

I have to agree. His chat is really weird. I was amazed after asking several of his "fans" their age via whisper - they were all in their 30's or 40's. Which shocks me, because the way they act, it feels like a bunch of immature 12 year olds who cry "hater" at anyone who disagrees with them.

LOOL the majority of his fans are in there 30's & 40's?? that's hilarious!! anyone under 30 that is any decent at poker is not watching Jaime so i would believe that, is he still doing that creepy zoom in on his face?

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Hi Pokeraz,

Hows the wife and my kids?

There are a ton of pros who are far far better players than Jaime who are losing in 2017. The facts are, Jaime makes money from poker - whether that be playing it, streaming it or talking about it. Good luck to the guy.

How do you know is he up or down? Is she showing the results again somewhere? And makin money from streaming poker is making money from streaming. Poker to him is like a videogame he streams.

I'd say making money from "playing" poker and making money from streaming poker are different things.

Seems to me the bet is just a tool used to try and grow his stream at Bill Perkins expense. He walks around town drinking espresso and coke zero like a moron and laughs at the fact aspartame and other artificial sweeteners are actually worse for you than sugar. He treats this bet like he treats his poker game. Half ass

Anyone watching 10 minutes of his stream and listening to his thought process with a grasp of professional level thinking can cipher this pretty quickly

new lense on his vlog channel but now every time he is talking into the camera up close its zoomed in close to his face its so absurd lmao otherwise his vlogs had improved but no1 wants to see your face on super zoom Jaime lolol

some people love to watch just to hate. shouldnt you be putting your energy into something more constructive?

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You seem legitimately creepy.

I've been watching his stream and YouTube clips for a few months now and I think he's got an awesome attitude that makes him likable. I like his commentary and very occasionally he does some hand analysis that I find useful.

However, I find his style is reliant on shoving a lot of hands pre-flop and he is very bad at getting away from better hands. Apparently he's been on a major downswing and tried to hide it, locking his Sharkscope stats etc. I am not really surprised.

In terms of his weight and his prop bet, I think it's positive and I hope he manages to get into better shape.

Man some you guys are such haters. We're all grown ass men here, most of you are older than Jamie as well, and you're hating on him. He's mentioned that he's down in poker for the taxable year. He mentions how he doesn't make any money from vlogs. But still he's streaming all of the time and putting out vlogs almost daily. He's also mentioned he's more of a professional streamer than a pro. And, Jamie is so good for the game of poker attracting new players. If Jamie was a rude person I can understand you going after him, but he's always very nice on his channels and always friendly. All you haters here seem made that he's got this lifestyle and you don't. I mean damn, you obviously are all obsessed with the guy if you can't stop watching his content.

The hate started exactly the moment he started auctioning away pieces for stupendous markup in games he clearly wasn't winning at. Since then, he has a money-grabby vibe lingering under the surface that people don't like.

I get that to an extent. But his goal is to make money, if he doesn't really need staking why else would he offer it and also it's the law of supply and demand. If people are willing to pay for it then fine, I agree it's probably more on the sketchier side of things but who doesn't want to have some action while sweating Jamie. At least that's what the recreational want moreso than actually trying to make money doing it. I'm just saying there's no need to put the guy down for other things besides the staking. If he has Diet Coke whatever, he can indulge in some bad stuff. I mean cmon he watches his brothers eat 3 kebabs a day right in front of his face while he drinks water...Diet Coke to him is like a nicotine patch for smokers.


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That's not true. As a fellow poker streamer, I can tell you that 99% of the "staking" money comes from recreational players, not experienced poker players (who would probably choose other players to invest).

People stake streamers to support them and to have fun. I've received a lot of donations to play higher stakes tournaments ($60-$100 for me), without being considered to be a crusher in them. People just love to watch their favorite streamer play and support them on their way.

Jaime has never once guaranteed it to be a profitable investment, he ALWAYS mentioned the fact there is a bonus with watching live on Twitch and sweating. He even took down his previous staking thread on 2p2 because of criticism he received, Jamie is as honest as you can be.

This statement is wrong/misleading at best. Back then he still got staking here on 2+2. He (purposefully?) used graphs that were not relevant to the package he sold (for example he sold $200-$1k BIs and used graphs with ~$15 ABI. There was a HUGE discussion if that was okay, sketchy or downright scummy.

When it was pointed out that he was down >$50k in >$50 BI MTTs, he first added "for entertainment value" and when that didn't work switched to the safe space StakeKings where discussion is less visible.

Listen, I really don't care anymore, let's just say that my personal impression is that that was what kickstarted a lot of the hate in the community (this was also the beginning of the massbanning in twitch chat).

I guarantee you Pokerstaples has done more for poker since streaming and becoming a PS team pro than all of his haters combined. I know it's mostly trolls harping on Jaime's weight, which I might add, he's proactively doing something about by accepting the weight loss challenge.

We all know Jaime is profitable in tournaments, but due to the fact he's not up millions of dollars people are criticizing his poker abilities. I'll be the first to say he's not up to par versus end bosses like Holtz, Seiver, Coleman, Esfandiari, but I would stake Jaime against a slew of popular poker players in NL tournaments. He's also vastly improved from when he first started playing too.

It's a shame one of the true good personalities in poker gets as much flak directed his way for working his butt off and being successful. I've donated on the regular to Jaime because he's worth the price of admission. His streams are entertaining, informative and generally a chill place to hang out and talk.

The last thing we need are egomaniacs and attention seekers and there's plenty of poker pros who fit that description. I'd politely ask to stop this negative spin on Pokerstaples if it's just going to be about his physical appearance and other trivial BS.

I've been a huge supporter of Jaime's from day 1. I'd love nothing more to see him win the WSOP main event just to throw it back in the face to all of the negative nancies.

Really?

This is his lifetime tournament graph, from less than 6 months ago:



Unless he's completely turned things around in recent months, he's not profitable. Care to post some evidence that he's profitable in tournaments?

That's true, but still it has always been up to the buyer whether to purchase a stake or not. He didn't fake the graphs, he showed his lifetime graph which mostly consisted of his huge winnings in lower stake MTTs.

Will some people be mislead by it, thinking he is crushing the highstakes too what the staking was for? Maybe, but I'm sure the people that get mislead are just from Twitch/fans of his stream, I'm sure the average 2+2er is well aware about different stakes and ROIs to not stake if he thinks it's not profitable on certain stakes with a certain Markup.

Anyway, since he enabled follower-only chat and lets his mods actively deal with trolls, his Twitch chat experience has been much better.

Also the lifetime graph doesn't show much, you can clearly see he was crushing the lower stakes up to $80,000 profit, then with sponsorship money + Twitch money + Staking he was able to play a much larger ABI, where a single big cash could be high 5-figure to 6-figures and change the graph dramatically. It just hasn't happened for him yet.

Also it's not his job to be the BEST poker player as a streamer, his job is to be an ambassador for poker and Pokerstars and he is great at it.