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Old 12-01-2016, 03:13 AM   #651
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You're kinda funny... in a pathetic sort of way. "Hey staples post your graphs" "Staples notice me!" "Staples I hate you, but can you please talk with me and help me prove my theories?!?"

Do you realize you could figure all of this out (and post it to shove it in his face) on your own? Jstclkdabtn showed you how to about 20 pages ago. I'm currently looking at Jaime's >40% avg roi in $5-$15 bi. Though, to keep you posting, i'll mention it's only a 5k sample.
Lol yes I'm really looking to be in conversation with Jaime Staples, what an honor and privilege that would be... You're such a little ****

He's constantly defending everything in this thread and thinks he's a good player so I don't think seeing proof is out of line... I assume by you only mentioning his microstakes roi that would be the only place where he is a winner

Congrats staples you have a modest roi at microstakes... Seems about right with your skill level... Just hire your fellow stars pro Vanessa Selbts for coaching at 800 hr. Maybe you can get that poker stars discount
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Old 12-01-2016, 03:46 AM   #652
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Manage to break that 10k mark before his brother.

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I'm currently looking at Jaime's >40% avg roi in $5-$15 bi..
Good for him. You can easily live in croatia playing w/ that abi.
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Old 12-01-2016, 07:00 AM   #653
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Ok everybody, I think this thread has run its course. It's become nothing more than a Jaime free for all of relentless trolling and cyber bullying. I have no doubt in my mind the negative critics here obsessing over Pokerstaples are either his Twitch channel trolls or straight up haters. It's easy to judge someone who puts his life in public for everyone to see. Whether you like him or not he puts his heart and soul into Poker and streaming only to get eviscerated for making a bad play. Hate to break it to you but I've yet to see a Twitch poker streamer play perfect poker. I 100% believe people are hating on Jaime because he got sponsored. Sadly this all comes down to jealousy, envy and a whole lot of salty feelings. I'll go one step further and say they don't watch Pokerstaples stream nor are fans of his channel. They just lurk in his Twitch channel chat and spew toxic garbage about his weight, earnings and questionable plays. If you're not a Pokerstaples fan then fine that's all fine and dandy, go somewhere else there's other streamers Tonka, Polk, JCarver etc.

Obviously this post is slightly biased and I know Pokerstaples has a huge following despite what the 2+2 poker community thinks. When Tonka and JCarver aren't streaming Jaime still gets 2500+ viewers and many more for deep runs. The talk about nobody watching Jaime anymore on Twitch has been greatly exaggerated by negative Nancies. I know Tonkap gets a lot of love and I do admit I watch his stream more now because JCarver is MIA. It's still 1. JCarver 2. Tonkap 3. Pokerstaples in terms of viewership and popularity. So cut this crap out already its getting old and if you have a problem then talk to him like a man face to face. Hiding behind the computer in complete anonymity and taking potshots is what I'd expect from a child.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:04 AM   #654
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graph of jaime being down 10, 000$ lifetime
next post is a guy defending him

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Old 12-01-2016, 12:58 PM   #655
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how to lose 100k at mtts

also drinking a can of soda while on a diet

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Old 12-01-2016, 01:26 PM   #656
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Jaime gets way too much hate. It does annoy me when people that are open to the public(whether it be through Twitch or staking or sponsored) hide their results. I'd much rather they just be transparent and even use negative results as a challenge. And welcome viewers into that!

I do like Jaime and all the content that he's creating is great.
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Old 12-01-2016, 02:23 PM   #657
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Staples punts more than the Cleveland Browns.. Bazinga!
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Old 12-01-2016, 04:57 PM   #658
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They just lurk in his Twitch channel chat and spew toxic garbage about his weight, earnings and questionable plays.
People are just telling it how it is. No one here is going to lie about what they see.

Has Jaime lost $77k+ on poker in the last year (not counting any losses at live poker)? yes.
Does Jaime have problems with his weight? yes.
Does Jaime have a smoking addiction? yes.
Does Jaime spend far too much on youtube editors when he can easily edit the videos himself? yes.
Is Jaime in denial about his poker playing abilities and other weaknesses? yes.

Most people are just frustrated and disappointed that he can't accept these things and work to improve in these areas. He surrounds himself with a bunch of yes men who tell him what he wants to hear. This is not good for his long term growth as a poker player and twitch/youtube streamer.
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Old 12-01-2016, 07:08 PM   #659
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Does Jaime have a smoking addiction? yes
What, is it crack? You people are so obsessed.... oh wait, its the twatch forums. ..
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:14 PM   #660
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People are just telling it how it is. No one here is going to lie about what they see.

Has Jaime lost $77k+ on poker in the last year (not counting any losses at live poker)? yes.
Does Jaime have problems with his weight? yes.
Does Jaime have a smoking addiction? yes.
Does Jaime spend far too much on youtube editors when he can easily edit the videos himself? yes.
Is Jaime in denial about his poker playing abilities and other weaknesses? yes.

Most people are just frustrated and disappointed that he can't accept these things and work to improve in these areas. He surrounds himself with a bunch of yes men who tell him what he wants to hear. This is not good for his long term growth as a poker player and twitch/youtube streamer.
This post pretty much nails it. One thing I would like to point out is I don't think Jamie should be reading the twitch chat while grinding a bunch of tables. Talk about a serious distraction. That can't be good for his game.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:59 PM   #661
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how to lose 100k at mtts

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Are you sure this is really that bad?

I can only see the snapshot you've posted but this looks like early in a super knockout and a SBB v BB clash at perhaps 35bb deep or so. It looks a little odd with the SB having a bounty of $225, this seems a double bounty but the player only has about the starting stack of chips, 5k in these.

Ok let's just say it is the very worst case and the SB has us beat atm and so never ever folds. In this worst case scenario the SB could have something like:
All over pairs QQ+
All sets T,J, and 4
All AJ to QJ, top pair hands
All 2 pair hands JT, J4, T4
I could throw in all KQ's for the top end of the hoped for straight, doesn't matter very much.
I could also throw in a few higher club suited cards it also doesn't matter much, I'll just add the AcTc as this also starts out with a higher pair.

So that range is (TT+,44,AJs,AcTc,KJs+,QJs,JTs,J4s,T4s,AJo,KJo+,QJo ,JTo,J4o,T4o)
JS has 9c8c
According to Pokerstove this 9c8c hand has 32.4% equity against that range.

If JS never gets any folds at all it works out it is the same as if JS called a SB full shove so...
Final pot = 400 + (4583 * 2) + 856 = 10422

To break even in this case JS needs the amount risked/final pot = (4583+400)/10422 = 47% equity

Oops, JS only has 32.4% against this incredible strong range - ah but wait a minute this looks like a super knockout so there is more to it - worth reading this
http://www.tournamentpokeredge.com/s...ment-strategy/

So it seems JS could stack this other player and the KO bounty is worth at least a starting stack, 5000 chips in this case, (possibly double this as it seems to be $225, but I settle for a single stack) so the calculation for break even becomes:
(4583+400)/(10422+5000) = 4983/15422 = 32.3%

Wow, that comes out at just about exactly break even even when just a single bounty. Now break even isn't much to write home about but wait a mo I forgot, earlier I tried to find just about the very worst possible set of hands to put this SB (in this SB v BB clash) on (I wish I always hit the flop that well as the SB ), basically all sets, 2pairs, top pair etc and I doubt if that is really a fair range to use. It is actually possible that the SB could sometimes fold a few hands and any of these folds push some profit into the JS move.

I am no expert on knockout tournaments but I suspect this is not catastrophically bad, thanks for bring it to our attention though.

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Old 12-01-2016, 11:53 PM   #662
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the 2 surest way to find a losing reg:

-losing graph
-ev calcs

There's a reason why most of the micro forums know every advanced ev theorem and most of ssnl-msnl don't even know whats the odds of hitting their straight on the turn. You can justify anything with math but no matter how much time you have to waste, shoving a weak draw 30bb deep vs a min bet, in a game where preserving your stack is so important, wont ever be good.
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Old 12-02-2016, 12:26 AM   #663
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Are you sure this is really that bad?
Well if this was any good we'd see more 5x flop raise shoves from better regs.

I don't know of any that has a 5x flop shoving range.

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Old 12-02-2016, 09:00 AM   #664
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Well if this was any good we'd see more 5x flop raise shoves from better regs.

I don't know of any that has a 5x flop shoving range.
400 to 4500 is closer to 10x
even better!

that's one of his better plays though, every couple minutes he punts his chips away doing completely insane stuff.
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Old 12-02-2016, 05:17 PM   #665
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He just gave 200 bucks to Courtiebee's kids charity drive. Give him some run good now.
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Old 12-02-2016, 05:31 PM   #666
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the 2 surest way to find a losing reg:

-losing graph
-ev calcs

There's a reason why most of the micro forums know every advanced ev theorem and most of ssnl-msnl don't even know whats the odds of hitting their straight on the turn. You can justify anything with math but no matter how much time you have to waste, shoving a weak draw 30bb deep vs a min bet, in a game where preserving your stack is so important, wont ever be good.
Well, when it comes to MTTs I wouldn't bother much with your view as I think you do not understand the game properly. I don't yet play these knockouts but if I planned to I would take the effort to do a few ev calcs to get a better understanding of them.

These games are relatively new and for the players that adapt to them quickly they will be very profitable. If you play them as a normal MTT you will do really badly.

There are many effects of the structure that would take an age to learn by just playing them but some mathematical work off the table can really help. One of the strange things I noticed here is how this situation is horribly unbalanced. JS covers the SB and so can apply pressure and even call a shove with a oesd but the SB can't, it is almost unfair when if it was early in a non-knockout it would play close to chipev.

In the above flop hand I think the shove maybe wasn't the right move (not too bad though), it may have been better to pot or slightly over-bet the pot then call any flop shove. You can achieve nearly the same result with a raise to pot, enough pressure to get many of the same folds to a push. If you get to see a turn you are very nearly committed to it though, if you bet to 1300 and get a call on the turn there is ~3500 in the pot and about ~3500 left behind. about the only advantage would be is you were very lucky and could take it to showdown without more going in, unlikely really. Maybe the shove is the better line I don't really know.

If you don't hit the straight turn card according to flopzilla you usually have about 10 to 20% equity (or 30% if a club hits) using what I think are reasonable filters. The turn SB push ev calc would then be 3500/15422 which implies 22% hand equity needed so you could call if you had at least hit a club turn. I don't think I would like to try for any raise smaller than pot, no FE. You could call I suppose but this is a very passive line and calling you don't get to apply the FE pressure.

Remember this hand started as an SB open raised pot and was only about 35 bb deep, you see the flop with a very small stack to pot ratio.
Perhaps botsonparty could tell us how to play the hand in order to not lose 100k. As an initial hint I usually open raise from the SB about 50% to 70%, maybe a little less when facing a decent player and I don't always c-bet if this shallow. Perhaps you could tell us your line when you are the BB.

This spot seems to work a bit like an icm spot and I can see why the shove is a simple solution, maybe not the best but not terrible. I don't know enough of this situation, player history, game flow etc, and tbh the game format to judge properly.

The main reason I came in with an ev calc here was to show it wasn't crazy the way you implied. You do seem to have annoyed me with some of your very nasty posts on this thread.
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The reason Jaime got sponsorship was through lots of work over the years helping people on poker forums and getting into twitch early bringing a lot of others into poker, helping them to get some enjoyment from a fine game.

I would like to see many more people start to play poker and hopefully I could take a little of their money while they enjoyed the game.

Imo your crap posts on this thread don't help anybody and don't help the 2+2 community/site.
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Old 12-02-2016, 08:00 PM   #667
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he hasnt helped anyone over the years, he can't even help himself to become a winning player or accomplish anything.

Jaime's the definition of being at the right spot at the right time and right now the only thing thats keeping him going is the few leftover guys that are complete failures at life trying to avoid reality together and a couple people that don't know anything about poker that get scammed into thinking that he's a winning player as he's sponsored.

How would you feel if your eldery mother or your brother with an iq of 75 went and hired a 300lbs of fat personal trainer simply because he was 120lbs at 15years old?
It's very similar, jaime managed to win a few mtt's with luck and then he lost it all back but got his "certificate" from stars during the positive time and now he's scamming people of lesser intelligence/poker knowledge.
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Old 12-03-2016, 12:15 AM   #668
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i just find it odd that he wins a big tournament and the next day Pokerstars gives him a sponsorship... since then, not too much has happened. It baffles me how he makes such dumb plays in spots.

He did get 2nd in a tournament the other day in a hyper. He played like crap, got the deck with him and still couldnt close it out. there was no actual poker playing. 35bb deep. open shove. 30 bb, shove. shove shove shove.
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Old 12-03-2016, 07:57 AM   #669
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I was permanently banned in his twitch chat for asking about studying poker and when his next vlog would come out. Are you serious? How do you ban me for that? I actually liked you...
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:15 AM   #670
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I was permanently banned in his twitch chat for asking about studying poker and when his next vlog would come out. Are you serious? How do you ban me for that? I actually liked you...
I don't see any usernames banned from yesterday. Whats your username? The mods do their best but sometimes too strong. Myself as well of course. We are only human

I'd like to undo it.

For what its worth vlog is on pause as I do these 30 straight days of streams.

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Old 12-03-2016, 09:46 AM   #671
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Yo I love you Jaime!! Forget these guys, they're obviously jealous of you. Now I agree people shouldn't stake Jaime, but it is their responsibility to do research before they spend their money and maybe they stake him just to gamble like we all do at a casino. It's fun and provides entertainment throughout the stream.

Also no reason to attack Jaime personally, the guy is doing his best to show how much fun poker is and being in new players, that's why Pokerstars hired him I assume.

Jaime come visit Dublin!


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Old 12-03-2016, 12:44 PM   #672
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I don't see any usernames banned from yesterday. Whats your username? The mods do their best but sometimes too strong. Myself as well of course. We are only human

I'd like to undo it.

For what its worth vlog is on pause as I do these 30 straight days of streams.

Jaime
Appreciate it man. I only wanted to motivate you
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Old 12-03-2016, 03:10 PM   #673
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I don't stop in here anymore because it's 90% trolls who ****post on the forums all day (I see you botsonparty posting in random PG&C's + nvg + mttc trolling with all non substantial posts) but lol @ the idea of you think jaime should edit all his videos himself.

You think it would be a good way for him to work on his weight / stress / time if he streams for 8 hours then has to record footage for 2 hrs then edit his own videos for 2+ hrs every day? To focus on his health he might as well skip sleep here now too right? x_X


Fwiw Jaime if you read this streams have been a lot nicer to watch lately, positive vibes and mostly ignoring the people who only come to twitch to troll - couple months ago it was super negative only focusing on the trolls and it's nice to see that has turned around, hope this 30 days of dec goes well for you!
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I dont follow this guy, but why is everyone bitching about him smoking? This is not a health channel ffs
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I dont follow this guy, but why is everyone bitching about him smoking? This is not a health channel ffs
If you followed him you'd know why. He said he quit. He started smoking again but tried too hide it for a while...then he came clean.

Days of our lives and all that.
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