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Old 11-21-2016, 10:18 AM   #576
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Well if I didn't either make more then that now, or believe I am building up that equity, I wouldn't be doing it that's for sure! As I mentioned above that is the top end (most I have paid a month). It's not the average.

When you add up that 400+ hours (not including my hours) are going into creating and distributing this content a month by three employees it can start to make more sense as to why it costs that much. I don't think people are aware of it all but I have a video on the vlog channel from last week where I explain my content calendar (episode #60). Lots of the stuff is intended for and being seen by different communities then 2+2, or twitch.

If you look at the video editing market, it's not cheep. I am sure there are tons of people that can under cut the prices my guys charge me and do similar quality but I need people that: understand poker, are responsible/reliable enough to release videos on a schedule every day, and are people I can trust with having access to my accounts.

Add in the other jobs my team help with like graphic design, social media, community management, marketing, sales, technical consulting, project management, and modding/engaging with the community for free when that's not happening.

So I have to disagree that I am overpaying them in $, or overextending in terms of what I am outsourcing because I am still out of time every day. That's of course my fault for insisting we take on as much content as we do but it's a way to differentiate myself from the droves of other MTT regs that could stream just like me one day. It's exposing me to markets they aren't going to reach.
You obviously know your business more than I do but they were my initial thoughts as I spent less than that last year but my ROI appears to be a lot more (all be it in a slightly different market).

I made over 350k last year through affiliate marketing solely through social media sites. Feel free to read my AMA (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/30...eting-1419944/)

Happy to have a chat with you, or shoot the breeze about different types of marketing you are doing etc if you are ever interested. In return you can give me tips on Twitch (I just set one up for the lolz).

Keep up the good work.
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Old 11-21-2016, 11:58 AM   #577
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Ya you don't need a team staples lol You have 30k subs get over yourself... You have no chance on YouTube other then poker content that is just fact... You are not this amazing personality... You are a low stakes mtt player who got lucky to start steaming when he did and has overachieved .. The fact you earn a living off poker you should be absolutely thanking god every single day... You are still reasonably young so I get it but as you get older you will become more of a realist and get in touch with reality
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Old 11-21-2016, 12:14 PM   #578
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This thread is so weird man lol.

I have made honest attempts at having threads here 3 times but Its tough to keep conversation on track when its getting trolled to death.
Trolled? I think you mean speaking the truth. For example, is it or is it not true you have lost a ton of money on poker in the last year or so? Somewhere around $75,000.

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I have a small pack of people that have latched onto trolling me which is to be expected I think. I get it. It does kind of ruin the opportunity to talk on open forums like these where I can't control whats coming through like I can on Twitch by banning.
I'm afraid that's not how the world works. You can't control what people say by censoring and banning their opinions when you don't agree with them.

Forums like this provide an outlet for people to speak the truth.

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There is a ton of speculation in here and I'm fine with that being a thing. I'm not trying to ruin the party, but if anyone wants any actual answers to questions I am happy to talk about it (if I can.) Also those of you that want to give me feedback, or anything, please do so. I won't be participating here much unless it is moderated a little differently but I do read the thread. The best way too reach out is via any of my social medias, or via email. I really appreciate those of you supporting me.

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That's the thing - you won't give actual, truthful answers. You will spin the answers to suit your own agenda.

For starters, you don't show your results on stream anymore like you used to. Remember when you had 'monthly results/yearly results' on your stream - why did you get rid of that as soon as you started to lose big?

I'd have infinitely more respect for you if you unblocked your sharkscope and posted a full lifetime graph on your stream for everyone to see. Or put a !results command in your chat with a link to your actual results.
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Old 11-21-2016, 12:34 PM   #579
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anyone else think of Grimace when Jaime wears that god awful purple shirt. Dammit... i want Mcdonalds and a smoke... thanks Stapler, you enabler..
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:34 PM   #580
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Add in the other jobs my team help with like graphic design, social media, community management, marketing, sales, technical consulting, project management, and modding/engaging with the community for free when that's not happening.
Hoping all this is a troll but i imagine its not. Honestly have no ill will towards you but i think you come across as totally fake and can imagine as soon as the cameras stop rolling you laughing with your housemates and taking off the mask you wear for the plebs who give you money. Not saying thats right or wrong its just my opinion and im sure alot of others share it. I imagine 1% of 1% of people are suited to be successful on youtube and a internet personality and i doubt you have what it takes judging on what i have seen so far.

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Old 11-21-2016, 01:50 PM   #581
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Throwing around big words with no substance .
Constructing sentences in a way so that nobody knows wtf u are talking about.
Constantly dodging anything critical that would be in your best interest if you actually faced these things .

you want some real advice ?
stop being a corporate whore at the expense of your health and sanity , instead of being exploited by ps to spend 24/7 making cringeworthy youtube content exploit them instead.

Your weight is a cause of concern for many of us , when you eat burgers and fries in every single vlog you make when going out we can't take you seriously.

Get a gym membership and go prior to playing poker 3-5x per week , if this is too much go for a 1-2hr walk instead on some days.

Make a myfitnesspal account and write down everything you eat , hopefully this will shock you enough that you will try to actually stick to a diet .

When you call people who genuinely want you to improve your situation trolls and only listen to people who enable your behavior you shut down a legitimate discussion.

The worst part is that you will never reach any of these goals if you continue down this road.

There is this famous youtuber boogie2988 , go look him up he has everything you aspire to have but there is 1 massive problem he is morbidly obese and then some .

You really think money makes you happy ? sure it does to some extent but at the end of the day you still have to be able to live with yourself.
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Old 11-21-2016, 02:23 PM   #582
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Ya you don't need a team staples lol You have 30k subs get over yourself... You have no chance on YouTube other then poker content that is just fact... You are not this amazing personality... You are a low stakes mtt player who got lucky to start steaming when he did and has overachieved .. The fact you earn a living off poker you should be absolutely thanking god every single day... You are still reasonably young so I get it but as you get older you will become more of a realist and get in touch with reality
Pfff, kinda hatefull. Dont try, u die. If thats what he wants, he is entertaining and has a sparkling personality. All in all he is a very positive and refreshing voice in the pokerworld unlike cynical snobbers like u.
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Old 11-21-2016, 02:48 PM   #583
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Ya you don't need a team staples lol You have 30k subs get over yourself... You have no chance on YouTube other then poker content that is just fact... You are not this amazing personality... You are a low stakes mtt player who got lucky to start steaming when he did and has overachieved .. The fact you earn a living off poker you should be absolutely thanking god every single day... You are still reasonably young so I get it but as you get older you will become more of a realist and get in touch with reality
what a barrel of laughs you are
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Old 11-21-2016, 04:48 PM   #584
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Do you think your lack of will power or motivation is because you have created too much work for yourself where you are getting swamped or is due to the anxiety and hate you get from trolls?
I don't think me failing at accomplishing things has anything to do with having too much work, or anxiety, or critics.

I think when it comes to my health, changing my eating patterns is breaking a deeply seeded addiction I have had for my whole life (maybe grade 5 or so). So it's a compulsion. I think I can get there but I don't think my struggle with it is embarrassing or makes me weak. You can look at stats coming out of psych studies and see how few people actually succeed at changing eating habits and sticking a new lifestyle. I am betting I'll be one.

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For starters, you don't show your results on stream anymore like you used to. Remember when you had 'monthly results/yearly results' on your stream - why did you get rid of that as soon as you started to lose big?
Because every day the stream became about my downswing to the point where the poker was overshadowed. It was a dominant topic for around 2 of 8 hours every day. The community was overwhelmingly negative as people got impatient waiting for the next bink.

Also there was no real differentiation in the mind of an average viewer (or as we have seen from most of you critics in this thread) between playing really high stakes stuff, and playing the Big 22. Money was money and all swings were equal to the audience. The reality is I played 40+ 1Ks, and 3 or four 2Ks. I had one FT for 16K in the thrill, and maybe 2 min cashes but that's it.There is a lot of results tied up in those tournaments. People took that as me being terrible and not winning in every tournament I played.

Some random Facebook poker player that has been watching for a week, see's me shove 10 big blinds with JTss on the button, doesn't understand the play, and his first reaction is "you suck see!" by looking at the results. And you can feel that throughout the community. Just because I am challenging the highest levels of tournaments doesn't mean I don't have a lot I can show people and help them with in their game. I have a lot of experience playing small stakes MTTs. So all in all I didn't think it made any sense to start each day with a cloud over the streams head, when the general premise of the show was having fun and playing poker.

Also there were people that came in there, such as yourself, that would make sure to point out to everyone that I suck, and they are better then me, and why does anyone watch this guy, and then critique every play I make. I don't like those people, and they offer no value to me business wise. I'm not saying this about everyone or even a small portion of viewers that give me advice and I want to make that clear. I just mean the ones that are doing it from a position of insecurity. Where their reason is they are mad I am in the position I am in because I don't deserve it.

So take away their metrics to criticize (results) and they will go away, and the community will be more positive, was my hope. That has been true except for the most dedicated group.


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i think you come across as totally fake and can imagine as soon as the cameras stop rolling you laughing with your housemates and taking off the mask you wear for the plebs who give you money. I imagine 1% of 1% of people are suited to be successful on youtube and a internet personality and i doubt you have what it takes judging on what i have seen so far.
I am not fake. Clearly I am very different then how you are in life so I guess that makes it hard for you to believe I actual think the way I act. I see no reason to laugh at people for choosing to support me. They are showcasing that they care about the content I create, and enough to send some of their money, to me. Why would I have anything but appreciation for these people?

My upbringing was from a small town with conservative values. Both my parents are very socially progressive and always taught me to be kind to other people. I went through bullying in elementary and Junior high that reinforces that idea. 1. Feeling bad sucks, and why would I do that to others, and 2. The bullying comes from a position of insecurity or weakness. I'm not going to be insecure or weak. Add in that I spent the majority of my childhood from age 10-18 or so at golf clubs. Golf has a bit of an elitist attitude but the core message of the game perhaps explains my mindset. Being a gentleman, acting fairly, treating others with respect, being kind, etc. All of my jobs were at these golf courses where it was primarily speaking with upper middle to upper class white dudes where there is no tolerance for being brash.

So when people blame me for being a "beta b****" that never says it like it is and is fake" they are confusing that with the way I am, and who I was taught to be. I'm not saying which is a better way fwiw. It's just the lack of empathy or understanding is annoying to me.

In regards to "being successful" on YouTube I already am (based on my metrics for success.) I have grown to have the most subscribers out of any active poker channel (inactive being Jcarver, Gripsed, and PokerStars.) I will soon be surpassed by Doug Polk though. His content is great and higher quality then mine so that makes sense to me. I may not have what it takes to become one of the elite you are right but I'm going to find out.

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you want some real advice ?
No.

Well yes from some but your post is pretty much the opposite of how I want to interact with people so taking advice from that source would be dumb of me.

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When you call people who genuinely want you to improve your situation trolls and only listen to people who enable your behavior you shut down a legitimate discussion.
It's the way in which it is conveyed, not the message. You know how many people have offered the same advice you just have over the past two years? Around a thousand. That's not an exaggeration, that's an honest guess at a number. Your specific approach of my fitness pal, gym membership, and walking 1-2 hours a day is not ground breaking or new knowledge to me.

Here is when I welcome advice:
"Hey Jaime love your show. I heard you talking about fitness today. I have tried XYZ or have XYZ knowledge in this area and have some ideas about how you can improve if you are interested in hearing them."

Perfect. Most of the emails I get are like this and it's awesome to have that encouragement.

Here is when I write the person off as someone I wouldn't want to learn from:
"stop being a corporate whore at the expense of your health and sanity"

I imagine this is when someone is "talking real or speaking the truth" to you. The second one lacks empathy or complete understanding of the situation, and is jumping to the conclusion that my sponsorships are the reason for my health problems (lol?). They are both saying the same thing! 'Health is important, I can help you get better at it.' I don't care about the second one though and don't want it.


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You really think money makes you happy ? sure it does to some extent but at the end of the day you still have to be able to live with yourself.
No I don't think money makes me happy and it's not what drives my decisions or motivation in doing what I do. Vlog titled "why" from this week explains why I do things.
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Old 11-21-2016, 05:50 PM   #585
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I understand there is variance in poker. However, you hit your high point on August 22nd 2015 when you were at $67,000. You're now down to -$8,000. This is after playing thousands of tournaments. This isn't a downswing we're talking about here. You're a losing player. A losing player at all stakes now, not just the higher buy ins. You're not even making final tables at micro stakes, which you would be doing with some regularity if you were any good.

You make so many mistakes when I watch you play. You're calling when you're obviously beat, you're shoving in spots you shouldn't be shoving, you're bluffing in spots where you're always getting called. Don't kid yourself that you're playing well, because you're not. This is not just my opinion btw, but the opinion of many people.

Post your lifetime graph below your stream, add a disclaimer below it saying 'much of this was taking shots at higher buy ins, there is a lot of variance in tournament poker' and leave it at that. When you desperately try to hide all your results, it looked suspicious to everyone. Like you were somehow ashamed of losing.
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Old 11-21-2016, 06:26 PM   #586
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Yeah you have to face the music and admit that you are a losing player atm. Blaming The reality is I played 40+ 1Ks, and 3 or four 2Ks is not smart. Even if you bricked all of those you are still over 10k in the hole for the year. One could allso say that w/out couple of big scores you would be deeper in the hole for the career. Maybe you win at the 0-15$ ones but thats about it.
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Old 11-21-2016, 06:48 PM   #587
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GL Jaime I personally enjoy the channel when I have the chance to tune in. Do not think you come off as fake. Some people are insecure, jealous, etc. that you have been able to find a profitable avenue in the poker world without being a huge winner. Keep working on your game. Regarding fitness, what I've always found the most successful is to set mini cardio goals during the workout ("I'm going to sprint xx or to that sign"). Just have to stick with it, it gets easier and easier just like studying poker spots.
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Old 11-21-2016, 06:52 PM   #588
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I understand there is variance in poker. However, you hit your high point on August 22nd 2015 when you were at $67,000. You're now down to -$8,000. This is after playing thousands of tournaments. This isn't a downswing we're talking about here. You're a losing player. A losing player at all stakes now, not just the higher buy ins. You're not even making final tables at micro stakes, which you would be doing with some regularity if you were any good.

You make so many mistakes when I watch you play. You're calling when you're obviously beat, you're shoving in spots you shouldn't be shoving, you're bluffing in spots where you're always getting called. Don't kid yourself that you're playing well, because you're not. This is not just my opinion btw, but the opinion of many people.

Post your lifetime graph below your stream, add a disclaimer below it saying 'much of this was taking shots at higher buy ins, there is a lot of variance in tournament poker' and leave it at that. When you desperately try to hide all your results, it looked suspicious to everyone. Like you were somehow ashamed of losing.

This is such a dumb post. Who are you? The streaming Police?

None of the other top streamers show their graphs and stats etc. You think just because you don't like him that he should do this? Lol @ you...
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Old 11-21-2016, 07:07 PM   #589
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Jaime and Kevin both come across as very fake and it doesn't take a genius to spot this. They are unnaturally nice and politically correct. I personally don't like it, but like Labax says, some people will believe anything.
Believe whatever you like but i can honestly say the opposite is true from my experience with the both of them, I met Kevin and Jaime before they ever got started on twitch in Calgary at a live mtt, have hung out with them both multiple times and i don't notice anything different with there personalities on and off of twitch.
Kevin even met his GF on a reality show that was filmed 24/7 and dated for a while after the show was over, Think she would keep that relationship going after the tv show if it was all fake?
I understand how people would think they are fake because of how nice and polite there personalities are on twitch but from my experience with them in real life and before they were big names in poker that is actually the type of people they are.
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Old 11-21-2016, 07:26 PM   #590
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As I stated earlier in the thread, no one is being forced to watch you Jaime so you are smart enough to know the truth about your dedicated trolling stalkers and the real reasons behind their criticism.

They hide behind the notion that you are subject to this because you are in the public eye; and they are right, however when it is repeated over and over by the same people it's clear that they are in it for self-righteousness and bitter hatred.

I'll repeat my challenge to the trolls: Since it's clear that Jaime Staples is who he is and will continue to do things his way; it's time to move on and watch someone you like and enjoy their content. Nothing wrong with differing opinions and ways to approach our lives, so just move on if someone continues to "irk" you with the way they approach theirs.

Something tells me that they will continue to support your stream and other content with views just so they can rush back to this thread and spew their repetitive negativity again and get a nice dose of what they are addicted to: self righteous bitter jealousy masquerading as constructive criticism.
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Old 11-21-2016, 11:01 PM   #591
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If u lose weight and get fit, u might have a chance to become a good player but its just not possible for obese people to compete with normal people. Their is one outlier that I can think of in Tonkaaaa but hes going through a massive downswing as well and he can probably play 10x better if he wasn't obese.
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I'd like to see you do well Jaime and I'll definitely check out the vlog often when you're in Croatia (always cool to see new places).

Something which I find somewhat strange is you saying that dedicating 2 hours a day towards poker study is a huge commitment. Surely this is what any upcoming/professional player would do, especially in a situation in which you're in results wise.

If you think about any of the sickos, they just locked themselves in a room for months and years and got everything nailed. I mean from my viewpoint you have to argue is two hours a day enough to become a very good player nowadays. I feel this is even more the case since you stream your sessions and as a result are distracted via twitch while you play meaning you probably can't think as much about spots and as take as much in as someone who grinds off twitch and has his Skype friends up talking spots etc.

I don't see how you feel you can maintain being a pro or becoming a (relative to the population) better player.

I know you played some high stakes and it's an experience but a lifetime graph with some filters will be interesting. I mean as you said yourself you still think you beat mid stakes but will there be a line after x games where you just have to bite the bullet. There seems to be such a big stigma in regards to moving down and admitting defeat in poker and it causes so many to spunk money away because they feel they have a higher ev then they do.

I mean one of the things which causes people to lose money in poker is ego. I remember after your two b109 binks you repeatedly told the chat you were "beyond coaching" and "just run sims". I'm not saying you're like that now but I'm sure you can easily see how it's easy to pick a comfortable route in poker after a heater. Idk if I was in your position and wanted to stay/be a pro I'd be spending all my day studying. Yes you have twitch and a business which is why it's higher ev to do things the way you are. I mean that's the thing with twitch right, you take a direct hit to your game. I can't think of an already decent player who's come to twitch who's improved and moved up since joining. It's either fish who slowly improve, end bosses who semi quit poker or prior pros who's game stagnates, exception is perhaps tonkaaa who arguably has stayed at the same level.

I guess from the perspective of someone who wants to see you succeed I feel you need to be a lot more critical of your game. Again I'm not expert but it has to be higher ev to iron out fundamentals (such as jam/rejam, super exploitative lines, study the population more) then click buttons on pio.

I know what you do is incredibly difficult, people think putting yourself out there on twitch is easy but it's anything but. Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on how you genuinely see the next 12 months going for you poker wise.
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Old 11-21-2016, 11:49 PM   #593
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tbf studying poker is a waste unless you are elite, i honestly don't know the odds of a flushdraw and ive been living off poker for 9yrs
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No studying needed, I'm sure the heater is around the corner.

Still worth that graph post even if you're semi trolling.


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Old 11-22-2016, 12:59 AM   #595
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I have to chime in. The fact that his latest blog mentions Casey Neistat over and over and in the title only says to me that he's a total fake. It's clear he did that to simply gain subs. Casey Neistat has 4.5 million subs. Putting him in the title of his latest blog is just a ploy to gain subs. I wish him good luck but the fact is his vlogs are incredibly boring. Why watch Staples when one can watch real content from Ingram or Polk who are on an entirely different level. Let's Go!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol


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I have to chime in. The fact that his latest blog mentions Casey Neistat over and over and in the title only says to me that he's a total fake. It's clear he did that to simply gain subs. Casey Neistat has 4.5 million subs. Putting him in the title of his latest blog is just a ploy to gain subs. I wish him good luck but the fact is his vlogs are incredibly boring. Why watch Staples when one can watch real content from Ingram or Polk who are on an entirely different level. Let's Go!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol


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Ya probably the worst vlogs on YouTube... That Neistat vlog was so cringe I almost puked... Video has near the same dislikes to likes which tells the whole story..

And hey staples if you're reading this I've had a YouTube channel, run websites and am fully aware of how monetization on the internet works... At your height you were averaging 15k views a day you said... This is absolute pennies.. What were you making off that 30 bucks a day maybe

And you turn around and outsource ppl do help create all this content... Very Very Very poor decision... You are for sure losing money... Your vids top out at like 10k views... That number is absolute peanuts

You were bragging earlier how you have the biggest YouTube in poker...that's a amazing accomplishment when like 5 ppl make consistent content...

Your instagram following is not big along with your twitter and facebook... . So stop playing off like you are some big shot with this "team" you have and your hundreds of emails you have to answer to a day...

Get better at poker guy cause you still don't even know your push fold charts and stop trying to give off this persona of you being this social media giant cause you are not and according to the numbers I see you must be losing money...

Sweet hourly bro... Not fooling anyone... You get peanuts for YouTube views and your social media engagement is very low so take the hint... You are not succeeding and from years of experience in this space you must be losing money and a lot of it at that

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Old 11-22-2016, 06:39 AM   #597
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Why the hell do you guys watch his vlogs if you have such strong negative feelings about them? I personally think they are boring and probably one of the worst possible ways you can waste ten minutes of your life, so I don't watch them. For real though, this goes to all vlogs on YouTube. Total waste of time
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:48 AM   #598
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Jaime congrats on having haters, you are doing something right.
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:04 PM   #599
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Your right and wrong about that gettym.

The people with 50 posts in this thread really need to just stop watching and let him get on with whatever he is doing hes hurting no one. I tried to give a bit of constructive advice and paying someone to edit his videos when hes getting basically no views when it comes to youtube standards is a huge mistake. Jake Cody just started his Vlog and heard from a friend of his yesterday he spent hours researching how to edit it all himself and they are quite watchable so far. Surely is more rewarding doing this stuff yourself anyway not like he couldn't afford to pay someone i imagine. Sets a bad precedent throwing money at a project that is in its infancy instead of doing some work yourself.

GL with it anyway will take the advice given to alot of people here and stop posting and watching the odd video. Gotta say though you promoting the beat the clock format was amusing this is the worst move from stars yet.
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:23 PM   #600
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Jaime, than*************** you got this bro
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