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11-16-2016 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MultiTabling
Jaime dropped out of college in order to be a professional poker player. It's only now that he realises he can't beat the games, that he has to make a living from streaming. Once Stars pulls the plug on his sponsorship, it's over for him and he knows that.

I think this is why he's started the youtube vlogs. He hopes that one day, they can be a good revenue source for him (very unlikely). Because he's come to terms with the fact that he isn't going to be making money from poker.
Im pretty sure he knows that with his rep he can still get an other good 10-20 years in poker. Tons of stables staking and paying salaries until their horse bink 100k+. These guys spend their life in debt but get a decent salary every month and obviously make nothing when the eventual bink comes. It isnt too bad, you get paid to be a lotto player.
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11-16-2016 , 11:43 AM
A guy as obese as Jaime his calorie intake could be 4,000 a day with a moderate workout and he would lose 3-5 pounds per week
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11-16-2016 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by IPlayNLHE
Hypocrite much? I also don't believe you and if you are telling the truth, I am sorry. If I was retired, collecting $100k/year with millions in the bank I sure as hell wouldn't be sitting on my computer white knighting a low stakes grinder that can't even beat the game. You really come off as a creepy stalker type of guy that wants more then to watch him play $22 tournaments. Maybe when his stars sponsorship gets pulled and he is totally busto you can be his sugar daddy.

With that said you do know you can't take that money with you though? Assuming that you retired around the average retirement age you do know you are going to die within the next 10-20 years right? Better enjoy it while you can. I'll be around another 70 years. I have plenty of time to make money but your money won't buy you time. I'll keep enjoying my life traveling the country with my smoking hot 23 year old girlfriend that loves the **** out of me while you soak in your lonely sorrows only having human contact when someone wants your precious money.
LOL
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11-16-2016 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by botsonparty
Im pretty sure he knows that with his rep he can still get an other good 10-20 years in poker. Tons of stables staking and paying salaries until their horse bink 100k+. These guys spend their life in debt but get a decent salary every month and obviously make nothing when the eventual bink comes. It isnt too bad, you get paid to be a lotto player.
Why would someone waste their time and money to stake a losing player?
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11-16-2016 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MultiTabling
Why would someone waste their time and money to stake a losing player?
People won't. But with Jaime it is different because he has a fan base. People donate to streamers all the time on Twitch, it is arguably the largest source of their income. So when it comes to Jaime I wouldn't be surprised if instead of donating people bought pieces instead. It is similar to donating but now the stream is more enjoyable because you get to sweat the ride and actually have something on the line while still supporting your favorite streamer.

Isn't too complicated of a concept but those not familiar with Twitch outside of poker may not realize this.
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11-16-2016 , 12:47 PM
One of the common reasons for giving a losing stake is 'for the sweat' - just to see someone funny play the game instead of the staker him/herself who'd have an even worse ROI in that tourney.

And IPlayNLHE is right - viewers just like to donate this way.
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11-16-2016 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by IPlayNLHE
People won't. But with Jaime it is different because he has a fan base. People donate to streamers all the time on Twitch, it is arguably the largest source of their income. So when it comes to Jaime I wouldn't be surprised if instead of donating people bought pieces instead. It is similar to donating but now the stream is more enjoyable because you get to sweat the ride and actually have something on the line while still supporting your favorite streamer.

Isn't too complicated of a concept but those not familiar with Twitch outside of poker may not realize this.
Jaime got far less people buying his action once they found out he was a losing player. People don't buy action expecting to lose money and I think this has contributed to much of the bitterness and anger in his stream chat.

Donating anything to any streamer is a huge waste of money. If it doesn't cost anything, why pay for it? I would never in a million years donate a single penny to any twitch streamer. If they want to stream, they should fund it themselves or do it for free.

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Originally Posted by coon74
One of the common reasons for giving a losing stake is 'for the sweat' - just to see someone funny play the game instead of the staker him/herself who'd have an even worse ROI in that tourney.

And IPlayNLHE is right - viewers just like to donate this way.
You can sweat without money. Don't throw away your hard earned cash on losing gamblers.
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11-16-2016 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MultiTabling
Jaime got far less people buying his action once they found out he was a losing player. People don't buy action expecting to lose money and I think this has contributed to much of the bitterness and anger in his stream chat.

Donating anything to any streamer is a huge waste of money. If it doesn't cost anything, why pay for it? I would never in a million years donate a single penny to any twitch streamer. If they want to stream, they should fund it themselves or do it for free.

You can sweat without money. Don't throw away your hard earned cash on losing gamblers.
No donations=nobody would stream on Twitch. Only the top of the top can make a decent living without donations and it takes awhile to get to the top. I think you just don't understand Twitch culture.

"Streamer Isaac "Azael" Cummings-Bentley tells The Daily Dot that he has received over $30,000 in donations from Amhai. His friend, Chance "Sodapoppin" Morris, got $50,000 (you can see one big donation of his below). Lea "LegendaryLea" May, who streams games of Hearthstone, has got over $22,000."

There is a lot of people out there with a lot of money that want to support their favorite entertainers. I agree with you though, I wouldn't donate money to a streamer but to each their own.
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11-16-2016 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by IPlayNLHE
No donations=nobody would stream on Twitch. Only the top of the top can make a decent living without donations and it takes awhile to get to the top. I think you just don't understand Twitch culture.

"Streamer Isaac "Azael" Cummings-Bentley tells The Daily Dot that he has received over $30,000 in donations from Amhai. His friend, Chance "Sodapoppin" Morris, got $50,000 (you can see one big donation of his below). Lea "LegendaryLea" May, who streams games of Hearthstone, has got over $22,000."

There is a lot of people out there with a lot of money that want to support their favorite entertainers. I agree with you though, I wouldn't donate money to a streamer but to each their own.
I disagree. There are streamers in the 50-300 viewer range who would still stream without donations. You just wouldn't have the big full time streamers doing it for a living.

Besides, that's for video games. Poker is different. Poker streamers should be making money playing poker (something which you can't do with video games), so they don't need to rely on donations. The problem for Staples is that he's a losing player. He has to rely on donations, subs, ad revenue, youtube revenue and pokerstars sponsorship to fund his lifestyle AND his poker losses.
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11-16-2016 , 02:11 PM
I mean, you can think what you want but anyone that starts streaming on Twitch does it with intentions of making money. Streaming isn't as easy as turning on your PC and running with it, it takes a lot of consistency, time and effort.

Source: I streamed on Twitch for about a year and averaged about 150 viewers a stream but it wasn't worth it financially and was too much of a hassle. I can have just as much, if not more fun gaming off stream then I did on stream. I made about $3k-$4k off donations which is only like $300 a month. It is safe to say that if I had made more off donations I would have kept streaming. Just because they say donations don't matter doesn't mean they are being truthful, they are being politically correct and saying what the viewers want to hear.
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11-16-2016 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MultiTabling
Why would someone waste their time and money to stake a losing player?
There's thousands of players right now in that situation, most mtt players that ever binked do get staked forever and often take 4 years to make back the makeup, some never do.
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11-17-2016 , 07:22 AM
So they are breaking up w/ kevmart and moving to croatia for some reason. Atleast it's way cheaper to live there.

https://youtu.be/vly0Utpkvgk?t=176
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11-17-2016 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by botsonparty
Im pretty sure he knows that with his rep he can still get an other good 10-20 years in poker. Tons of stables staking and paying salaries until their horse bink 100k+. These guys spend their life in debt but get a decent salary every month and obviously make nothing when the eventual bink comes. It isnt too bad, you get paid to be a lotto player.
Jaime and Matt come from money and will never go broke. They are spoiled rich kids who will never work real jobs in their entire life.
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11-17-2016 , 09:26 PM
Poker is for lazy people... especially the mtt twitch route... don't care what anyone says
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11-17-2016 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by luckynuts444
Poker is for lazy people... especially the mtt twitch route... don't care what anyone says
Yeah the twitch mtt route is without questions the easiest/laziest way to make a living from poker.

I get it people work hard on their streams and branding but nothing in comparison to what even the 100z grinders have put in.

Issue is is once you settle for twitch streaming it's incredibly hard to actually work on your game a lot and move up. So much time is spent losing non twitch ev (poker ev) dealing with other stuff.

Like Ofc you can improve a bit but you won't find any new sickos who grinded whilst on twitch, they're in the lab 10 hours a day working on their game and chatting to beasts.
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11-17-2016 , 11:23 PM
I've noticed Tonka streams with his hole cards even for $5k Sit and Gos and $1k+ MTTs and isn't shy to give his thought processes. It's great for viewers but doesn't this cost him a lot of poker EV? Surely at that level there will be many players who will pay close attention to his stream and over time possibly pick up on subtle timing/betting patterns?
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11-17-2016 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by prahsk87
I've noticed Tonka streams with his hole cards even for $5k Sit and Gos and $1k+ MTTs and isn't shy to give his thought processes. It's great for viewers but doesn't this cost him a lot of poker EV? Surely at that level there will be many players who will pay close attention to his stream and over time possibly pick up on subtle timing/betting patterns?
^^ mtt players
lol
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11-18-2016 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
So they are breaking up w/ kevmart and moving to croatia for some reason. Atleast it's way cheaper to live there.

https://youtu.be/vly0Utpkvgk?t=176
Kevin Martin is either busto, or he wasn't paying his share of bills so Jamie cut him loose. Not sure how much English they speak in Croatia, but that seems like a random country to choose. I'd rather pick someplace like Italy.
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11-18-2016 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by winnercircle
Kevin Martin is either busto, or he wasn't paying his share of bills so Jamie cut him loose. Not sure how much English they speak in Croatia, but that seems like a random country to choose. I'd rather pick someplace like Italy.
i'm fairly certain Italy is like Spain where people in Italy can only play on pokerstars.it.

These sort of European counties are very cheap to live, have nice weather and have good regulation for poker, like Malta for example
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11-18-2016 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by winnercircle
Kevin Martin is either busto, or he wasn't paying his share of bills so Jamie cut him loose. Not sure how much English they speak in Croatia, but that seems like a random country to choose. I'd rather pick someplace like Italy.
i dont know where the staples parents are rich rumours come from but martin is making 3x as much as jaime with his stream+poker+youtube

Kev seems to be way above 1k in subs and he gets tons more donos and he doesnt seem to be spending as much as jaime on frivolous crap
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11-18-2016 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by botsonparty
i dont know where the staples parents are rich rumours come from
Jaime was a full-time amateur golfer for many years as a kid who was fully committed to going pro (but he kept getting fatter and fatter and never made it). Golf is an expensive as just a hobby, let alone a lifestyle. Furthermore, during bouts of depression over how terrible his life is, Jaime has vlogged visits to his family's lake-front property where he kayaks and rides jet skis all day.
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11-18-2016 , 03:47 PM
he just seems so forced when hes losing...
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11-18-2016 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by botsonparty
i dont know where the staples parents are rich rumours come from but martin is making 3x as much as jaime with his stream+poker+youtube

Kev seems to be way above 1k in subs and he gets tons more donos and he doesnt seem to be spending as much as jaime on frivolous crap
3x as much? If that were the case, Jamie wouldn't have had to ask him to pay his share of bills. Martins Stars contract is half of Jamies, he's made f all this year playing. Way to pull numbers out of thin air tho.
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11-18-2016 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by thebestpokerplayer
Jaime was a full-time amateur golfer for many years as a kid who was fully committed to going pro (but he kept getting fatter and fatter and never made it). Golf is an expensive as just a hobby, let alone a lifestyle. Furthermore, during bouts of depression over how terrible his life is, Jaime has vlogged visits to his family's lake-front property where he kayaks and rides jet skis all day.
What a rough life, poor kid.
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11-18-2016 , 05:43 PM
Martin makes minimum 5k us in dono per month while jaime barely hits 1.5k
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