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lol thread is 22 pages. why are you guys so butt hurt who gives a f***. no reason that you are forced to watch any of their streams if you don't like them or their content.

Jaime reads this thread and our posts make him rage.

Hard for you to understand as you are one of the MTT losing regs that binked.



you have 6~ wins over 6k tourneys, the rest is a massive downward trend

I wonder what stars pays Staples and Martin per year? I'll set over under at 50k

looooool id be mad too bro!

https://gyazo.com/85f14c61d2dfc3a3a6f7436f6f2096f0

Ya sick bink man congrats... Would gladly go on a run bad for a score like that lol

I bet Staples makes like 30k tops, and Martin is probably like 15-20k.

https://youtu.be/Ene9zY2FvPQ?t=459 this one I believe.

Ps should just swap staplers. Little one is closing that 10k bankroll allmost at the same rate bigger one is closing that -10k mark. He seems to be winning and has a decent group of followers allso.

I call him "Tony two-times" because he says everything twice. He's got s good stream and he's got heart.

This thread is so weird man lol.

I have made honest attempts at having threads here 3 times but Its tough to keep conversation on track when its getting trolled to death. I have a small pack of people that have latched onto trolling me which is to be expected I think. I get it. It does kind of ruin the opportunity to talk on open forums like these where I can't control whats coming through like I can on Twitch by banning.

There is a ton of speculation in here and I'm fine with that being a thing. I'm not trying to ruin the party, but if anyone wants any actual answers to questions I am happy to talk about it (if I can.) Also those of you that want to give me feedback, or anything, please do so. I won't be participating here much unless it is moderated a little differently but I do read the thread. The best way too reach out is via any of my social medias, or via email. I really appreciate those of you supporting me.

Jaime

Is the 7k spending per month for YouTube/Twitch an accurate number? If not, what is it closer to?

It depends how much content is being made and if there are any projects going on.

Right now the only content that needs to be produced is 3 full length videos a day for YouTube, and four shorter ones for Facebook (re purposed from YouTube). There are no projects this month (e.g. website, merch, sponsorship negotiations, relocation, trips etc.) and I only have one guy helping me distribute the stuff/run the community so it will be under that 7K figure. That is the top end.

Feel free to report any posts you think are inappropriate. Mods of this forum read all reports and take whatever action they deem proper. Or feel free to PM me directly and I'll do what I can as well.

Why do you put so much time and energy to creating content that aint getting much audience? Instead of studying and becoming a winning player again. Is it really that necessarily to vlog every day how you woke up late etc?

This isn't a Q&A thread - Jaime can make one of those if he wishes - it's a discussion thread. Why on Earth have you censored it, and implied you will continue to do so, at the behest of the individual concerned? Very questionable decision-making by the mods and an odd precedent to set.

Are you talking to me? I have not "censored" the thread in any way. And I am not a mod in this sub-forum so have no ability to "censor" the thread in any way. In this sub-forum I am just like any other poster.

The mods in this sub-forum have been quite hands-off in this thread. And I completely support that viewpoint. It is a discussion thread about a specific twitch streamer. While several posts have been over-the-top, 2+2 encourages free and open exchange of ideas and opinions.

My reply to Jaime above was to remind him that he, like any 2+2 member, should use the report feature of the forum if he feels strongly that a post is inappropriate in some way (abusive, insulting, objectionable, etc.). Too often people, and I am including Jaime here, complain about a post or a 2+2 thread, but don't alert anybody of their concerns.

Finally, I mentioned that Jaime could PM me since he may recognize my member name as being an early supporter of his stream though I have had absolutely no direct contact with Jaime on 2+2. Sometimes a complaining person wants to send their complaints to somebody they "know" rather than use an indirect and amorphous reporting channel.

My post was aimed at whoever edited the thread - I did assume that was you due to it coinciding with your post. Apologies.

Users should be able to express whatever opinion they like in this thread. I'm glad to see you support that view.

Jaime has implied he'd like to 'control' the content of this thread by 'banning' people like he does in his chat and sit their answering filtered questions. That is an idea 2+2 moderators shouldn't entertain for a moment. Unfortunately you, as a team, have already given it tacit validation by removing the original thread title.

1. Because I love it. I disagree that it isn't viewed by many. I guess that is subjective but I am quite happy with my viewership (while always striving to grow at the same time.) Also the return on investment is a lot higher creating content then it is in poker. I have a long way to go before I could get my poker hourly up to my content hourly. Maybe one day they will once again cross paths (see answer 2.)

2. I do study poker and have re-upped my commitment on that front. I study two hours a day as of now which is a huge commitment but I think paying off. Right now I am trying to learn PIO solver and better understanding GTO type thinking in poker hands. It's not super relevant in most of the stuff I am playing right now, but will become relevant in the future (both as games get harder, and as I move up.)

I also would add that I think I am a winning player and have been for a long time in most of the small to mid tournaments that run every day. I was not in the Highstakes stuff over the last year but I think I can get there and learned a lot through playing those games.

3. No it's not necessary. But again, I love it. Also it's works as a diversification of my content to: 1. attract more and different types of brands that wouldn't be interested in sponsoring just poker content, 2. develops a deeper relationship with my audience as not just a player, but a human, and 3. Is an exit plan if I fall out of love with poker to funnel my audience into something creative that I can make.

I am not saying they should filter the thread to take out all criticism, I am just saying there are about 3 or 4 people that have been full time stalking me for almost 2 years now and will do anything to derail the conversations that can take place. They have shown up here and also in the last threads I had. I think they deserve to be heard but not drown out other people's comments.

Also if there is too much noise, it becomes not worth it for myself or others to spend any time in here talking when it's overshadowed by the same complaints we have heard expressed 100s of times. I don't think that's what 2+2, I, or even the fans+critics want of this forum/thread. The line is thin and I'm not trying to draw it, I am just pointing out the roadblocks to participating here from this side of the fence.

Thx. We can prolly disagree on few points though but appreciate your answers.

That's reasonable, hope the thread continues accordingly.

Hi Jamie,

For a thread of this size I actually think trolling is very very minimal. If you read any of the Trooper97 thread before it was closed, now that was trolling.

I think a lot of this is good constructive criticism. I always try to remember that if I am going to believe the good comments, I have to believe the bad.

Obviously there will always be some trolls/stalkers etc but that comes with what you are doing I am afraid. Just ignore them

Anyway... As mentioned previously, spending 7k a month on this is ludicrous. Absolute insanity. The only way this figure would make any sense to continue is if you can comfortably say that you are generating 7k in income because of it. Even then I believe you can get the same results with less month.

Throwing money at something does not always mean better results

Imo the only comments that are out of line / trolling are the ones saying he is from a rich family and 'can just punt it away'. Rest of the comments are basically talking about his results and health that affects directly to the results. Just like in every other thread about other players. Obv some talk about kevmart and ministapler allso because thay are part of that streaming house.

Well if I didn't either make more then that now, or believe I am building up that equity, I wouldn't be doing it that's for sure! As I mentioned above that is the top end (most I have paid a month). It's not the average.

When you add up that 400+ hours (not including my hours) are going into creating and distributing this content a month by three employees it can start to make more sense as to why it costs that much. I don't think people are aware of it all but I have a video on the vlog channel from last week where I explain my content calendar (episode #60). Lots of the stuff is intended for and being seen by different communities then 2+2, or twitch.

If you look at the video editing market, it's not cheep. I am sure there are tons of people that can under cut the prices my guys charge me and do similar quality but I need people that: understand poker, are responsible/reliable enough to release videos on a schedule every day, and are people I can trust with having access to my accounts.

Add in the other jobs my team help with like graphic design, social media, community management, marketing, sales, technical consulting, project management, and modding/engaging with the community for free when that's not happening.

So I have to disagree that I am overpaying them in $, or overextending in terms of what I am outsourcing because I am still out of time every day. That's of course my fault for insisting we take on as much content as we do but it's a way to differentiate myself from the droves of other MTT regs that could stream just like me one day. It's exposing me to markets they aren't going to reach.

Hello Jaime,

I respect your stream and watch the highlights on youtube.

I'm glad you moved from the big stakes tourneys where you were struggling and moved into the smaller stakes.

One thing that frustrates me is your lack of motivation/dedication. Like what has been mentioned in this thread before you don't stick to your health plans, you wake up late often and it only feels recently that you're really putting some dedication and time into studying.

Do you think your lack of will power or motivation is because you have created too much work for yourself where you are getting swamped or is due to the anxiety and hate you get from trolls?

Like i said i enjoy the stream and highlights, including the odd vlog here and there. What frustrates me is you're always talking about improving yourself and you always give up.