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05-01-2016 , 05:13 PM
ive been trying corrupted healbot + auchenai priest and it's working OK. the MAIN problem is without zombie chow you just lose the early game so hard now. i cant think of any 1 drops or really 2 drops outside pyro i want in my deck
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05-01-2016 , 05:15 PM
I focused on midgame and kind of just said eff early game besides the grill and pws

Unless you count the blademasters and pyromancers as early game.
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05-01-2016 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
ive been trying corrupted healbot + auchenai priest and it's working OK. the MAIN problem is without zombie chow you just lose the early game so hard now. i cant think of any 1 drops or really 2 drops outside pyro i want in my deck
yeah I think Priest is struggling big time without zombie chow now. Priest might be the weakest class atm
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05-01-2016 , 06:40 PM
I don't think zombies are the problem. I can win against aggro on priest. Before I said eff priest after expansion, I was getting farmed by people who could develop big boards if I missed circle + auchenai. Lightbomb is missed for sure.
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05-01-2016 , 06:44 PM
Yes, you can win vs aggro

but it's SO MUCH HARDER without chows, deathlord, and lightbomb.

The list I made up has more potential burn with the 2 mana spell as well as the new 5 mana minion, so together with flash heals and the like you actually have an extraordinary amount of reach, but the cost is just a much weaker deck vs things fast and things that flood.

I agree w/ McGee
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05-10-2016 , 12:01 PM
Sorry friends, I've abandoned priest for paladin. N'Zoth pally is just better than any N'zoth priest list (plus I pulled a gold lightlord) and I don't have much interest in playing dragon or c'thun snoozefests. See you all (hopefully) next expansion.

Last edited by WildBobAA; 05-10-2016 at 12:09 PM.
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05-10-2016 , 05:54 PM
C'Thun priest is indeed boring (and bad, and disappointing) but I'm having lots of fun with that dragon list:



It's heavily inspired from that one.

Forbidden Shaping is really the card that makes the deck. I never mulligan for it but it's great to plug holes in the curve against aggro and to generate late game threats against slower decks. 8 mana shaping is awesome: Tirion! Grommash! Rhonin! Ragnaroses!

I've dropped Nefarian for Chillmaw because of aggro and patrons. And I've decided that since I had Shaping as an insurance for the early game I could be super greedy and have 2 entombs to outcontrol control decks. Also, I had to include Harrison because Doomhammer belongs in a museum.

Some of these choices might be bad but they have been working well for me so far, especially against shamans and zoolocks. And there are a lot of them.
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05-22-2016 , 08:31 AM
Great dragon priest deck by snower:

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/54761...-priest?page=3

Trump and Kibler where both using this List on stream. Its basically the dragon Shell + N'Zoth Shell in one deck. The go very well together and there is still space enough for the priest removal package. Had a lot of fun with it, works against aggro and has enough reach against control. (I was trying the kibler List that adds curators)
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06-27-2016 , 07:08 PM
Priest is an absolute dumpster fire right now.
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06-27-2016 , 08:01 PM
You know it's bad when Zetalot can't make it work well.
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06-27-2016 , 10:29 PM
I just got a priest 50gp quest, and opened this thread hoping for a deck.
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07-01-2016 , 12:14 PM
...did you guys ever watch zetalot climbing on the first day after a reset?
Its so impressive, he storms threw ranks with almost no loss. I am watching atm, he climbed from 16 to 8 within 3 hours... all that with his odd control priest deck.
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07-01-2016 , 02:01 PM
Yea zeta has beenone of the best players for a long time now. When i watched hs streams i watched his
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07-01-2016 , 02:09 PM
yeah but Ben Brode claims there's a secret priest deck nobody has made yet - rofl
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07-01-2016 , 04:18 PM
I think Brode was hinting that someone has been having success in terms of winrate with a Priest deck that everyone else hasn't yet identified. I doubt Brode knows of some secret build they tested which the community hasn't tried yet. That or he's trolling.
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07-01-2016 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
I think Brode was hinting that someone has been having success in terms of winrate with a Priest deck that everyone else hasn't yet identified. I doubt Brode knows of some secret build they tested which the community hasn't tried yet. That or he's trolling.
I actually don't think he was hinting at a particular deck or anything. He was just saying that often times a random deck is discovered a year into the meta that people were sleeping on. The example he gave was mech warrior.

lol Priest tho. It was obvious from day ~5 of standard that Priest was gonna struggle big time. Losing lightbomb was just way too big of a blow.
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07-01-2016 , 05:59 PM
There was a brief time when N'Zoth Priest looked quite promising, but it just turns out not to be consistent enough. I think it'll be a strong deck in a future meta for sure. Edit: to clarify, after an expansion.

If lightbomb were a thing, Priest would be quite good, I agree. That one card swings the rogue matchup from unwinnable (more or less) to pretty decent for priest. I've heard that N'Zoth Priest is really strong in Wild, and it almost has to be due to Lightbomb to a large extent.

Last edited by vixticator; 07-01-2016 at 06:04 PM.
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07-01-2016 , 06:07 PM
tangential, but imo the big problem with priest is that losing lightbomb ended up nerfing northshire cleric. you can't use circle anymore to draw lots of cards - you have to save it for board clear with auchenai. decks end up being a lot less consistent like you said.
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07-01-2016 , 06:24 PM
Priest is in a spot where if they got a couple of key cards (good AoE and a pro-active 2 drop) then they would probably go from being very weak to being borderline OP. Over the years I felt like when I won with Priest, I often won 30-0. When I lost I usually lost 0-30. In some games there was no in-between. I pretty much knew by turn 4 that the game would drag on until my opponent ran out of resources and I would kill him 3 and 4 at a time just by having an iron grip on the board.

Outside of some inner fire decks, Priest never really had great combo potential in the way of finishers. They could drop some big fatties but for the most part their win condition has been to starve out their opponents. At least that's my impression. Aggro Priest is a fun concept but realistically you're going to be the control in every matchup, and it can be dangerous to give a very capable control class good tools. I think that's why they're in the spot they are. Give Priest a 3/2 for 2 mana that has the same effect as Auchenai Soulpriest and the class turns around in a heartbeat imo. They're suddenly much more capable of combatting Aggro and if they run 2x Entomb they will have control matchups on lockdown.
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07-02-2016 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee
I actually don't think he was hinting at a particular deck or anything. He was just saying that often times a random deck is discovered a year into the meta that people were sleeping on. The example he gave was mech warrior.

lol Priest tho. It was obvious from day ~5 of standard that Priest was gonna struggle big time. Losing lightbomb was just way too big of a blow.
mech warrior was good? wtf. thought it was gimmicky and only playable bc warsong commander was a card
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07-02-2016 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
There was a brief time when N'Zoth Priest looked quite promising, but it just turns out not to be consistent enough. I think it'll be a strong deck in a future meta for sure. Edit: to clarify, after an expansion.

If lightbomb were a thing, Priest would be quite good, I agree. That one card swings the rogue matchup from unwinnable (more or less) to pretty decent for priest. I've heard that N'Zoth Priest is really strong in Wild, and it almost has to be due to Lightbomb to a large extent.
Lightbomb but also chow and deathlord and belcher. Those were core to priest in order to get early board and hero power value. Especially with Velen's. Currently priest just has no good way to interact with the board early AND this is compounded by the fact they don't have a good board clear anymore so once you fall behind it's pretty much GG.
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07-02-2016 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Aceium
Priest is in a spot where if they got a couple of key cards (good AoE and a pro-active 2 drop) then they would probably go from being very weak to being borderline OP. Over the years I felt like when I won with Priest, I often won 30-0. When I lost I usually lost 0-30. In some games there was no in-between. I pretty much knew by turn 4 that the game would drag on until my opponent ran out of resources and I would kill him 3 and 4 at a time just by having an iron grip on the board.

Outside of some inner fire decks, Priest never really had great combo potential in the way of finishers. They could drop some big fatties but for the most part their win condition has been to starve out their opponents. At least that's my impression. Aggro Priest is a fun concept but realistically you're going to be the control in every matchup, and it can be dangerous to give a very capable control class good tools. I think that's why they're in the spot they are. Give Priest a 3/2 for 2 mana that has the same effect as Auchenai Soulpriest and the class turns around in a heartbeat imo. They're suddenly much more capable of combatting Aggro and if they run 2x Entomb they will have control matchups on lockdown.
good post
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07-02-2016 , 01:43 AM
Pretty much what Aceium said. Priest always feels on the border of broken good or awful.
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07-02-2016 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by prizminferno
yeah but Ben Brode claims there's a secret priest deck nobody has made yet - rofl
...that would explain the use of some of these strange new priest cards like Herald or PW:Tentacles...
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07-02-2016 , 03:34 PM
I'd hate a meta where priest was top class though. It's the most oppressive deck to play against when it is strong, super frustrating. All your **** gets stolen and you just lose badly.
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